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cabana 4 life
02-08-06, 07:27 PM
ok i had this girl friend for 10 years. i quite my job as ups driver a few years ago( to much stress )had to many bills and we had to move home with our parents. i had a started crappy job and then decide to make a living riding my bike. i started a pedicab biz last summer it did well. in august i stared a bike related clothing company and money has been tight so i have stayed living with my parents and so did she. then a friend of mine and hers who was pretty close bought a house in october. in january she took alot of the stuff from our storage unit and moved into his house. she hated it at her moms and i think this was her way out, being that im still living at my parnets. she just recently told me (before moving in with him) that she loved me because im doing what i love. the other guy has had the same job for 14 years he just bought the house and is very stable so im thinking it was stabilty issue it sucks but some time simple living isnt for every one. i chose this life and im happy with it.

Guest
02-08-06, 07:37 PM
Perhaps. But I wouldn't stay with a guy for ten years either. I need a ring, or I need to find a guy with stability who can offer up a ring. My best years could be wasted on some dood who is making all kinds of promises, then get dumped when I'm all dried up (and keep in mind, I'm halfway to being all dried up! ;) ).

Just accept that it is what it is, and move on. :)

Koffee

wfin2004
02-08-06, 07:37 PM
Sometimes we have to make sacrafices for the one we love. I made many for the woman of my dreams. Some hurt in the wallet, some don't. You also have to give up some things to make the other one happy. You can't be on the receiving end all the time.

cabana 4 life
02-08-06, 08:04 PM
Perhaps. But I wouldn't stay with a guy for ten years either. I need a ring, or I need to find a guy with stability who can offer up a ring. My best years could be wasted on some dood who is making all kinds of promises, then get dumped when I'm all dried up (and keep in mind, I'm halfway to being all dried up! ;) ).

Just accept that it is what it is, and move on. :)

Koffee

oh i did the whole ring thing then she decide it was just not what she wanted at the time ,that was like 5 years ago. i did every thing for her all the time. she liked me the way i was i thought.

Guest
02-08-06, 08:43 PM
Hmmmm... maybe she still left because she felt that after 10 years, she just needed something different and she didn't want to waste the extra years with someone that wasn't meeting her needs? Not trying to be cruel, but 10 years... it's a LOOOOOOONG time. I'd come to some life decisions by then too.

Kudos for offering up the ring though. :beer:

Koffee

Urbanmonk
02-08-06, 09:25 PM
It's all socio-biological. Women, and men alike, are taught to develop specific roles in our culture. SOME women, regardless of what we hear by popular feminist talking heads, need to feel that security. There is no shame in that. If we can recognize that part of the other, we can then find a balance which allows two people to enjoy certain things in life that each find important.

Just thoughts

Cheers

BroMax
02-09-06, 12:46 AM
Hmmmm... maybe she still left because she felt that after 10 years, she just needed something different and she didn't want to waste the extra years with someone that wasn't meeting her needs? Not trying to be cruel, but 10 years... it's a LOOOOOOONG time. I'd come to some life decisions by then too.

Kudos for offering up the ring though. :beer:

Koffee

I don't think it's cruel, as long as you consider cabana also invested ten years. He said he thought his GF was happy with him as he is. If cabana quit his UPS job "a few years ago", what would cause a girl to stay with a guy on the one hand and not tell him what she needs on the other? It seems to me she had the opportunity to make life decisions a lot sooner if she just asked cabana what his plans were and decided whether or not she was willing to accept that.

becnal
02-09-06, 01:52 AM
I need a ring, or I need to find a guy with stability who can offer up a ring. My best years could be wasted on some dood who is making all kinds of promises, then get dumped when I'm all dried up.
Koffee

A ring on a finger is no guarentee that won't happen to anyone. Sad, but true.

Satyr
02-09-06, 04:25 AM
Since I have stopped worrying about being in any more relationships my life has been unimaginably free. The mental work required to not crave something society nearly demands has been work, though.

Most people don't realize that companionship is all about what you make of it, rather than being contained in some artificial construct like marriage or a relationship. I can choose to share the same deep feelings with good friends that I used to reserve for so-called significant others.

I commend anyone that holds onto their ideals and lives life as they see fit. The pressure to capitulate to society's demands is great, and it takes a certain amount of courage to be a freethinker.

blonduathlongrl
02-09-06, 04:43 AM
ok i had this girl friend for 10 years. i quite my job as ups driver a few years ago( to much stress )had to many bills and we had to move home with our parents. i had a started crappy job and then decide to make a living riding my bike. i started a pedicab biz last summer it did well. in august i stared a bike related clothing company and money has been tight so i have stayed living with my parents and so did she. then a friend of mine and hers who was pretty close bought a house in october. in january she took alot of the stuff from our storage unit and moved into his house. she hated it at her moms and i think this was her way out, being that im still living at my parnets. she just recently told me (before moving in with him) that she loved me because im doing what i love. the other guy has had the same job for 14 years he just bought the house and is very stable so im thinking it was stabilty issue it sucks but some time simple living isnt for every one. i chose this life and im happy with it.
Sorry, it hard.. but I know that stability can be attractive also, We ( woman) often need that. When you are never certain about a future, for example.. you and her together forever and a home to call your own and knowing that money will come in every week to pay the bills it makes things easier, you're right simple living is not for everyone but also the not knowing what comes next or being able to rely on something for sure is a hard place to be.

Guest
02-09-06, 07:01 AM
A ring on a finger is no guarentee that won't happen to anyone. Sad, but true.

Yeah, but it at least guarantees me half if the marriage breaks up. ;)

Koffee

Guest
02-09-06, 07:05 AM
I don't think it's cruel, as long as you consider cabana also invested ten years. He said he thought his GF was happy with him as he is. If cabana quit his UPS job "a few years ago", what would cause a girl to stay with a guy on the one hand and not tell him what she needs on the other? It seems to me she had the opportunity to make life decisions a lot sooner if she just asked cabana what his plans were and decided whether or not she was willing to accept that.

Sure. I get it. But women have a biological clock- really. If she wants kids and a stable life and she's getting up there in the years, at some point, I'm sure she'd be analyzing her life and wondering what she should do.

Koffee

rule
02-09-06, 07:13 AM
To thine own self be true. It can get pretty weird if you try to live a life for somebody else and be something that you don't want to be. ;)

wildjim
02-09-06, 07:40 AM
"Women are like Monkeys, They dont let go of one branch, until they get hold of another!" - Tom Cruise

blonduathlongrl
02-09-06, 08:32 AM
"Women are like Monkeys, They dont let go of one branch, until they get hold of another!" - Tom Cruise
that is soooooo not true, and the fact that wacky tom cruise said that proves my point!

wildjim
02-09-06, 08:53 AM
that is soooooo not true, and the fact that wacky tom cruise said that proves my point!

In my life experiences I would say that Tom Cruise is about 85% correct in his statement.

"Women are like Monkeys, They dont let go of one branch, until they get hold of another!" - Tom Cruise

davidmcowan
02-09-06, 08:57 AM
I'm a very simple liver. So is my girlfriend. I don't live in my parents basement and don't know that emotionally I could handle it. She surely couldn't.

I think that those of you that talk about the strife involved sharing your lives with another person haven't shared it with the right person. Sure you do have to make some sacrifices but those almost feel good because of the effect they have on your second half. I'm a social worker and take joy in other people's joy and advancement so maybe that is why it doesn't feel like strife to be in a relationship.

My girlfriend has been through thick and thin with me. We are approaching that time where rings should probably be exchanged. I respect that she is probably starting to feel a societal pressure, there are few strong enough to block them all out.

Just a couple of thoughts...

blonduathlongrl
02-09-06, 09:16 AM
In my life experiences I would say that Tom Cruise is about 85% correct in his statement.

"Women are like Monkeys, They dont let go of one branch, until they get hold of another!" - Tom Cruise
that's YOUR life experience, dont put us all in the same boat!

timmhaan
02-09-06, 09:22 AM
living with your parents as an adult has a very negative connotation to it. whether it's deserved or not, i can't say. but it's just how it is. it's sort of symbolic of going in the wrong direction in life. it was probably bothering her more than she told you.

wildjim
02-09-06, 09:23 AM
that's YOUR life experience, dont put us all in the same boat!


If a boat is involved I'd say that Tom Cruise is 98% correct in his statement.

"Women are like Monkeys, They dont let go of one branch, until they get hold of another!" - Tom Cruise

blonduathlongrl
02-09-06, 09:30 AM
If a boat is involved I'd say that Tom Cruise is 98% correct in his statement.

"Women are like Monkeys, They dont let go of one branch, until they get hold of another!" - Tom Cruise
OK guess you didnt learn that you should at least know better then arguing with a woman!!! lol, hey too bad for you the woman in your life were bad experiences, I mean that. But we are NOT all the same, too bad you think that way... hey, once I dated a guy that was a compulsive liar.. does that make all men the same?:) I certainly do not think so and I have a pretty nice hubby of 17 years to prove that.

wildjim
02-09-06, 09:42 AM
OK guess you didnt learn that you should at least know better then arguing with a woman!!! lol, hey too bad for you the woman in your life were bad experiences, I mean that. But we are NOT all the same, too bad you think that way... hey, once I dated a guy that was a compulsive liar.. does that make all men the same?:) I certainly do not think so and I have a pretty nice hubby of 17 years to prove that.

Well it's all subjective in relationships, is it not?

I just think Tom Cruise's statement is funny and so true in many cases.
"Women are like Monkeys, They dont let go of one branch, until they get hold of another!" - Tom Cruise

As for me I am not bitter or anti women; rather I have learned that I do much better living alone with my relationships external. I thank God that I have that ability. Naturally the woman I date feels the same. But everything changes, does it not?

shishi
02-09-06, 10:10 AM
ok i had this girl friend for 10 years. i quite my job as ups driver a few years ago( to much stress )had to many bills and we had to move home with our parents. i had a started crappy job and then decide to make a living riding my bike. i started a pedicab biz last summer it did well. in august i stared a bike related clothing company and money has been tight so i have stayed living with my parents and so did she. then a friend of mine and hers who was pretty close bought a house in october. in january she took alot of the stuff from our storage unit and moved into his house. she hated it at her moms and i think this was her way out, being that im still living at my parnets. she just recently told me (before moving in with him) that she loved me because im doing what i love. the other guy has had the same job for 14 years he just bought the house and is very stable so im thinking it was stabilty issue it sucks but some time simple living isnt for every one. i chose this life and im happy with it.

Sorry to hear that, but as long as you are happy.

Alekhine
02-09-06, 10:26 AM
hey, once I dated a guy that was a compulsive liar.. does that make all men the same?:)

Why not? You used the same argumentative technique to "prove" your point about that guy's earlier quote.

Dated liar guy = all guys are liars?
Tom Cruise says some wacky things = everything Tom Cruise says is wacky/wrong?

cabana 4 life
02-09-06, 10:56 AM
Yeah, but it at least guarantees me half if the marriage breaks up. ;)

Koffee

half of nothing is nothing.

patc
02-09-06, 11:36 AM
Most people don't realize that companionship is all about what you make of it, rather than being contained in some artificial construct like marriage or a relationship. I can choose to share the same deep feelings with good friends that I used to reserve for so-called significant others.

I commend anyone that holds onto their ideals and lives life as they see fit. The pressure to capitulate to society's demands is great, and it takes a certain amount of courage to be a freethinker.

If more people would clue in to that, they would be much, much happier.

Dahon.Steve
02-09-06, 12:00 PM
Since I have stopped worrying about being in any more relationships my life has been unimaginably free. The mental work required to not crave something society nearly demands has been work, though.

Most people don't realize that companionship is all about what you make of it, rather than being contained in some artificial construct like marriage or a relationship. I can choose to share the same deep feelings with good friends that I used to reserve for so-called significant others.

I commend anyone that holds onto their ideals and lives life as they see fit. The pressure to capitulate to society's demands is great, and it takes a certain amount of courage to be a freethinker.

I don't know if it's society demands that we all belong in a relationship but I think it beats being alone which can be very painful. My relationships have been painful experiences but I'm not going to stop looking for the dream.

Since you given up relationships, can you tell me (a range) how old are you?

Wulfheir
02-09-06, 12:07 PM
I've been married for 6 months, have owned a home for 3 months, and love the added sense of security (whether it's real or imagined). And I'm a dude, a straight dude at that!

Dahon.Steve
02-09-06, 12:18 PM
ok i had this girl friend for 10 years. i quite my job as ups driver a few years ago( to much stress )had to many bills and we had to move home with our parents. i had a started crappy job and then decide to make a living riding my bike. i started a pedicab biz last summer it did well. in august i stared a bike related clothing company and money has been tight so i have stayed living with my parents and so did she. then a friend of mine and hers who was pretty close bought a house in october. in january she took alot of the stuff from our storage unit and moved into his house. she hated it at her moms and i think this was her way out, being that im still living at my parnets. she just recently told me (before moving in with him) that she loved me because im doing what i love. the other guy has had the same job for 14 years he just bought the house and is very stable so im thinking it was stabilty issue it sucks but some time simple living isnt for every one. i chose this life and im happy with it.

I want to give you my sincere condolences. You made the ultimate sacrifice to do what you want. That takes courage. In fact, you have more courage than me. To see your significant other leave with another man is a total killer. I've had it happen to me and I did not recover. Then again, I'm thin skined and you're probably stronger.

I'm working in a job that I don't like but it pays well and changing at this point will require a pay cut. If I were 29 years old, I'd do it but I'm ten years older. The job I have doesn't have stress but it's mindless.

It must have been hard to leave someone after ten years. I hope you find someone to replace all those lost years. Your job can only bring so much happieness.

wildjim
02-09-06, 12:21 PM
ok i had this girl friend for 10 years. i quite my job as ups driver a few years ago( to much stress )had to many bills and we had to move home with our parents. i had a started crappy job and then decide to make a living riding my bike. i started a pedicab biz last summer it did well. in august i stared a bike related clothing company and money has been tight so i have stayed living with my parents and so did she. then a friend of mine and hers who was pretty close bought a house in october. in january she took alot of the stuff from our storage unit and moved into his house. she hated it at her moms and i think this was her way out, being that im still living at my parnets. she just recently told me (before moving in with him) that she loved me because im doing what i love. the other guy has had the same job for 14 years he just bought the house and is very stable so im thinking it was stabilty issue it sucks but some time simple living isnt for every one. i chose this life and im happy with it.

Unfortunatley here in the US the "simple" life style is not supported. If you begin to aquire assets together then there is some protection when you are married. It may be beneficial for tax purposes to be married.

Also to provide medical insurance benefits you may be required be married.

There are many benefits to being within a structured social environment.

If I were considering marriage I personally wouldn't get involved with a woman that didn't live within the commonly accepted society structure. A "simple" unstructured life style may seem acceptable when you are very young but the older you get the more stability you need.

cabana 4 life
02-09-06, 12:25 PM
ok odd enough she called me this morning and said she thought i was waitng for her. i was but she thought i was waitng for here to get a place to live so i could just move in. this was not true i was waiting for her ditch the other guy, so we could move on. hmmmm damn. and i dont think i have gotten over it because im talking about it on the internet .

madnomad
02-09-06, 12:43 PM
I refuse to date/marry/spend extended time with a woman who requires expensive clothing and other image-oriented possessions, the material comforts and material security of a oil-heated house, a private vehicle for transportation, and a lifestyle dominated by the acquisition and consumption of superfluous things and commodities. I won't work my ass off at some job I hate for a woman anymore than I would do it for my best friend. There are other ways to live that don't require as much money and suit me much better. This leaves me with very few women to choose from, at least here in Canada that is, but that suits me fine since I am relocating to the third world again, where many women still don't need a car and a fancy modern house and so on to feel secure and stable.

Surprisingly enough, my late fiancee enjoyed the simple life out on the land as I do, and I have one close female friend who is the same way, but women like that are few and far between in the west, in my experience, but I won't settle for any less, regardless. If a person wants to live their life according to money and possessions and a car and all that other crap, fine, but I won't be burdened with it and spend my life slaving away for things I don't need or want and which don't bring real happiness and only offer an illusion of security and comfort wrapped up in real debt and slavery. It takes a little sacrifice to make a relationship work, but often this is little or inconsequential if it is the right person, and it shouldn't change you into someone you don't want to be for the sake of companionship. Be true to yourself first and foremost.

jyossarian
02-09-06, 12:56 PM
"Tom Cruise is like a Monkey, He dont let go of one branch, until he gets hold of another!" - Tom Cruise

Fixed!

BTW, have you noticed that as Tom Cruise gets older, his women get younger? Mimi Rogers is 6 years older than him, Nicole Kidman is 5 years younger and Katie Holmes is 16 years younger.

wildjim
02-09-06, 01:42 PM
Fixed!

BTW, have you noticed that as Tom Cruise gets older, his women get younger? Mimi Rogers is 6 years older than him, Nicole Kidman is 5 years younger and Katie Holmes is 16 years younger.

"Women are like Monkeys, They dont let go of one branch, until they get hold of another!" - Tom Cruise

Dahon.Steve
02-09-06, 01:51 PM
I refuse to date/marry/spend extended time with a woman who requires expensive clothing and other image-oriented possessions, the material comforts and material security of a oil-heated house, a private vehicle for transportation, and a lifestyle dominated by the acquisition and consumption of superfluous things and commodities. I won't work my ass off at some job I hate for a woman anymore than I would do it for my best friend. There are other ways to live that don't require as much money and suit me much better. This leaves me with very few women to choose from, at least here in Canada that is, but that suits me fine since I am relocating to the third world again, where many women still don't need a car and a fancy modern house and so on to feel secure and stable.


This might work for individuals older than 65 but what if you're young? It's amazing how many people live in the New York Metro but everyone is either alone or unhappily married.

shishi
02-09-06, 02:11 PM
This might work for individuals older than 65 but what if you're young? It's amazing how many people live in the New York Metro but everyone is either alone or unhappily married.

One of the most isolating cities there is.

Guest
02-09-06, 03:26 PM
In my life experiences I would say that Tom Cruise is about 85% correct in his statement.

"Women are like Monkeys, They dont let go of one branch, until they get hold of another!" - Tom Cruise

Well, perhaps you tend to drive women away TOWARDS other men- and that's the experience you're thinking you're going through.

It's also been said that men are like dogs- they lick themselves because they can. But I don't go around degrading men all the time saying stupid crap like that.

Snaps down and loss of respect.

Koffee

Artkansas
02-09-06, 03:34 PM
A ring on a finger is no guarantee that won't happen to anyone. Sad, but true.


Tell me about it. I just got back an hour ago from signing final papers on a brand new divorce. Almost 19 years.

wildjim
02-09-06, 05:11 PM
Well, perhaps you tend to drive women away TOWARDS other men- and that's the experience you're thinking you're going through.

It's also been said that men are like dogs- they lick themselves because they can. But I don't go around degrading men all the time saying stupid crap like that.

Snaps down and loss of respect.

Koffee

You know what they say about assuming?

It may be true that I do not trust easily and I am extremely difficult to get close to. But actually my experiences with women are pleasant as I have no male friends that I pal around with and prefer women companionship and conversation.

The negative experiences were mostly observations of friends, co-workers and their problems. It seems people both men and women will look for a security blanket when exiting a relationship.

As for me I prefer to start over clean taking my time and learning from past mistakes and observing the mistakes of others. But really I prefer to be alone and only take companionship as necessary.

The comments and quote by Tom Cruise was made in jest ;)

"Women are like Monkeys, They dont let go of one branch, until they get hold of another!" - Tom Cruise

attercoppe
02-09-06, 08:25 PM
ok odd enough she called me this morning and said she thought i was waitng for her. i was but she thought i was waitng for here to get a place to live so i could just move in. this was not true i was waiting for her ditch the other guy, so we could move on. hmmmm damn. and i dont think i have gotten over it because im talking about it on the internet .

Sure, it's the internet, it can certainly be a little impersonal, but I'm glad you have a place here that you feel safe sharing this sort of personal thing. Hopefully it's helping you through it. Have a hug - *hug*.

Sir Lunch-a-lot
02-09-06, 09:55 PM
I refuse to date/marry/spend extended time with a woman who requires expensive clothing and other image-oriented possessions, the material comforts and material security of a oil-heated house, a private vehicle for transportation, and a lifestyle dominated by the acquisition and consumption of superfluous things and commodities. I won't work my ass off at some job I hate for a woman anymore than I would do it for my best friend. There are other ways to live that don't require as much money and suit me much better. This leaves me with very few women to choose from, at least here in Canada that is, but that suits me fine since I am relocating to the third world again, where many women still don't need a car and a fancy modern house and so on to feel secure and stable.

Surprisingly enough, my late fiancee enjoyed the simple life out on the land as I do, and I have one close female friend who is the same way, but women like that are few and far between in the west, in my experience, but I won't settle for any less, regardless. If a person wants to live their life according to money and possessions and a car and all that other crap, fine, but I won't be burdened with it and spend my life slaving away for things I don't need or want and which don't bring real happiness and only offer an illusion of security and comfort wrapped up in real debt and slavery. It takes a little sacrifice to make a relationship work, but often this is little or inconsequential if it is the right person, and it shouldn't change you into someone you don't want to be for the sake of companionship. Be true to yourself first and foremost.

I applaud you and your approach to finding the right woman. If you find one meeting your exacting standards, you guys have a much greater chance of being happy together (I also believe that a marriage built around God is also much stronger).

You commented on women wanting a whole bunch of possessions, and it reminded me about something one of my teachers once said: He said that before he was married, it took only a matter of months (ten, maybe?) to save up enough for a motorcycle. Around the time he got married, he spent the money on something "Important". Once he was married, it took about ten YEARS to save up enough. It's amazing how much money buying "stuff" and "decor" can consume.

oldguy52
02-09-06, 10:07 PM
half of nothing is nothing.

Good point !!

UUULTRA COMBO
02-09-06, 11:14 PM
ok i had this girl friend for 10 years. i quite my job as ups driver a few years ago( to much stress )had to many bills and we had to move home with our parents. i had a started crappy job and then decide to make a living riding my bike. i started a pedicab biz last summer it did well. in august i stared a bike related clothing company and money has been tight so i have stayed living with my parents and so did she. then a friend of mine and hers who was pretty close bought a house in october. in january she took alot of the stuff from our storage unit and moved into his house. she hated it at her moms and i think this was her way out, being that im still living at my parnets. she just recently told me (before moving in with him) that she loved me because im doing what i love. the other guy has had the same job for 14 years he just bought the house and is very stable so im thinking it was stabilty issue it sucks but some time simple living isnt for every one. i chose this life and im happy with it.
i hope someday you eventually choose to move back out of your parent's house because as long as you are living there, dating will be REALLY hard. i don't know how old you are but i get an idea from the fact that you were a ups driver and she was your girlfriend for 10 years, but really....move out of the house as soon as you can. simple living is NOT simple living because you are living with your parents and it doesn't seem suprising that she'd leave you because of that. what she most likely wants is a sustainable, self-reliant life.

iBarna
02-10-06, 02:14 AM
I agree with some people here. "Doing what you love" for too long without making some money, gets old after a while. Especially if it means living with your parents as an adult. I'm sure you made her a lot of promises how things would be better soon when you do this and that, and they didn't?

I have to say she really loved(s) you if she stayed with you this long. But I'm not surprised either that eventually it became too much for her. I'm not being cynical about women. It cuts both ways, I wouldn't want to live with a woman's parents or even with mine.. I would prefer just "getting a job", one that I sorta like, more than staying "pure" in what I'm doing -- and staying poor.

And another point... I don't think the real issue in your relationship is simple living. It's not moving forward in your life the way you were expected to...

blonduathlongrl
02-10-06, 04:41 AM
Why not? You used the same argumentative technique to "prove" your point about that guy's earlier quote.

Dated liar guy = all guys are liars?
Tom Cruise says some wacky things = everything Tom Cruise says is wacky/wrong?
lol!!! not at all, au contraire! but if you feel like arguing knock your sox off!!! I said that because he had bad experiences it shouldnt mean that he should generalise, maybe you odd to read this again! ohh brother.... some people, nit picking is a bad habbit too you know!! lol

oneredstar
02-10-06, 08:25 AM
It sucks when a relationship ends. It could be your "simple life", or it could be the fact that you live with your parents, and she lives with her parents, and you have been seeing each other for 10 years. I know I could not handle that. I think that the best thing to do is move on find someone that will make you happy and that yopu can make happy.

becnal
02-10-06, 08:52 AM
I've been married for 6 months, have owned a home for 3 months, and love the added sense of security.


That's a bit like jumping off a 100 story building, and while passing the 50th floor, saying, "So far, so good." ;) Best of luck with both the home and the marriage. I am afraid of the burden, so that's why I rent. The home that is, not the woman. :D

Dahon.Steve
02-10-06, 09:50 AM
I have to say she really loved(s) you if she stayed with you this long. But I'm not surprised either that eventually it became too much for her. I'm not being cynical about women. It cuts both ways, I wouldn't want to live with a woman's parents or even with mine.. I would prefer just "getting a job", one that I sorta like, more than staying "pure" in what I'm doing -- and staying poor.

Good point. A woman who sticks around with a guy for that many years is really in love. But understand that long courtships do not mean long marriages. I'm working in front of a girl who's been with the same guy for six years and I cringe at all the the difficulities they're going through. In fact, a marriage will probably end their relationship because it will force him to become more responsible and put more money into the relationship.

I never had someone who would stick with me for so many years. You were lucky.

cabana 4 life
02-10-06, 11:53 AM
i want to say thanx to everyone who has had something to say. there was a couple problems, first the moving home. also she was in love with me and another guy, i knew it, she knew it. i waited it out, i could not tell here who to love she needed to make that decision. so i waited never thinking the decison was going into his favor. i had friends ask me to move into a place with them but never took them up on it because i didnt want to move in with them and have her decide i was the one and then have to leave them high and dry, so i waited for along time for her decsion. she never really made. it in november i decide to take a gamble and let the two of them be, thinking she would hang with him and miss me and be done with him. well she took that time to empty our storage unit and move the stuff into his house. i got phone calling at the first of the year saying " im supposed to move in with him" i asked "what" she said " everyone thinks its a good idea". i know this all sounds like im nuts but never i thought she would choose his dumb ass. on a side note he really likes cars the house he bought he bought because it has two giant garages to work on his cars. so i now hate cars more than i did before.

SpokesInMyPoop
02-10-06, 05:14 PM
let's start a club. the dumped club. ugh.