Foo - what is the most important invention from post 1700's?

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phantomcow2
02-08-06, 06:54 PM
This was a quested posed to me today, I like it. I said it was the ball bearing what do you think?


Namenda
02-08-06, 06:57 PM
Indoor plumbing, hands down...

531Aussie
02-08-06, 07:31 PM
form a hypochondriac's point of view, it has to be anitbiotics. :)

About 100 years ago, ~60% of deaths in the western world were caused by infectious diseases; now it's ~3% :)


mechBgon
02-08-06, 07:40 PM
Mechanical refrigeration has always seemed to be a biggie to me. I don't think the Western lifestyle would be very feasible without it, at any rate.

SpongeDad
02-08-06, 07:44 PM
Steam engine or U.S. Constitution.

hi565
02-08-06, 08:05 PM
Rush... :D




Seriously though, I would have to say modern cycling technology.

Namenda
02-08-06, 08:09 PM
How about electricity? Or the internal combustion engine? Airplanes? Plastic? Synthetic fabrics that reduce our need for animal skins? Wait, wait...I've got it. The electronic dartboard!

531Aussie
02-08-06, 08:15 PM
stretch denim :p

531Aussie
02-08-06, 08:16 PM
rock 'n' roll!!

Imagine if we still had to listen to Tom Dorsey stuff

Namenda
02-08-06, 08:18 PM
Soap?

roccobike
02-08-06, 08:22 PM
How about electricity? Or the internal combustion engine? Airplanes? Plastic? Synthetic fabrics that reduce our need for animal skins? Wait, wait...I've got it. The electronic dartboard!
I'd go with electricity. While the others Namenda said are important, without electricity there contribution would be minimal to non-existant.

cuda2k
02-08-06, 08:25 PM
I think electricity or the mechanical engine (be it steam, internal, jet what ever). One drove the electrical age, the other the industrial revolution. Suppose without the steam engine we wouldn't have generators to speak of for electricity (unless you count hydro and wind generators).

Namenda
02-08-06, 08:31 PM
Vulcanized rubber, anesthesia, radio, dentistry, and....ice cream!

Dead Extra #2
02-08-06, 08:35 PM
Has no one said transistor?

granularus
02-08-06, 08:38 PM
The scientific method essentially by Galileo Galilei and Issac Newton as applied by others from this time - from their methodologies all these other things flowed.

free_pizza
02-08-06, 08:40 PM
The widget inside a can of Guinness :D:D:D:D

I think it was voted best invention of the 20th century!

free_pizza
02-08-06, 08:42 PM
form a hypochondriac's point of view, it has to be anitbiotics. :)
arent they more Discoveries than inventions?

Namenda
02-08-06, 08:44 PM
In honor of Mr. Hangover himself (free pizza, that would be you), I nominate Tylenol as the greatest invention since 1700.

Stacey
02-08-06, 09:02 PM
The controlled production, regulation & distribution of electricity. It's impossible to think of one thing in our lives that electricity hasn't impacted and would be (as) available without it.

jhota
02-08-06, 09:05 PM
Has no one said transistor?

ding! ding! ding!

this is my answer whenever i've been asked this question.

TexasGuy
02-08-06, 09:14 PM
but there would be no transistors without electricity :(

Namenda
02-08-06, 09:16 PM
but there would be no transistors without electricity :(

Oh, there'd be plenty of transistors without electricity. They just wouldn't do a whole helluva lot. :D

AnthonyG
02-08-06, 09:33 PM
OK I'm being a party-pooper but internal plumbing of sorts has been around since the Roman Empire. Soap has been around since the dawn of time too. Soap can be accidently made by dripping animal fat on the remains of a wood fire. Icecream has been around since the Romans as well beleive it or not.

Now I'm not sure if I have the timeline right myself but I believe that the most important modern invention is actualy a concept rather than a product. Its the idea of a production line that realy changed things for better or worse.

Regards, Anthony

Namenda
02-08-06, 09:37 PM
Well, you didn't shoot down the electronic dart board, so I guess you left me something. I'll try not to have any more fun, as it appears you just can't stand it...

iamlucky13
02-08-06, 09:40 PM
Indoor plumbing, hands down...

Definitely pre-1700's (http://www.the-home-improvement-web.com/information/clawfoot-tub-history.htm)

I'll swing another vote for electricity. Maxwell is probably the most under-respected scientist of the last 300 years. The antibiotics suggestion was a good one, but I don't think anything has changed our lives as much as electricity has. Transistors did not enable computers, they enabled smaller computers. Electricity gave us on-demand light, heat, and work. Work generally stopped when the sun went down before electric lighting became viable. Ball bearings made a lot of things easier, live longer, or more efficient, but they didn't directly change the way we live.

As an aside, the availability of the internet is having an obviously huge effect on society (bikeforums, anyone?), but some sociologists don't feel that we have even fully adapted to the changes TV makes in our lives yet (something like 60 years after its invention). It really is hard to fathom how we'll go about our daily lives in 50 years. It occasionally boggles my mind just to think that only 15 years ago, email was generally considered more a novelty than a tool.

Namenda
02-08-06, 09:51 PM
Definitely pre-1700's (http://www.the-home-improvement-web.com/information/clawfoot-tub-history.htm)


Yes the ancient Romans did divert river water through buildings to fill tubs and indoor pools. Amazing what you can accomplish with slave labor. And they had drain lines to send the water back out to the river. To me, this is no better than carrying buckets from the riverbank. I was referring to the indoor toilet. The first flushing toilet, per your link, was made in 1596. The inventor made a grand total of 2 copies. Not exactly widespread use, unless he invited all of England to his house when nature called. No more flushing toilets were invented and/or produced until 1775.

jhota
02-09-06, 06:18 AM
but there would be no transistors without electricity :(

electricity?

the Phoenicians had it. around 1000 BC.

plus, i don't consider "electricity" an invention. it's a natural force, harnessed by various inventions.

Stacey
02-09-06, 06:58 AM
electricity?

the Phoenicians had it. around 1000 BC.

plus, i don't consider "electricity" an invention. it's a natural force, harnessed by various inventions.


Ref: Post #19

KingTermite
02-09-06, 07:03 AM
condoms

free_pizza
02-09-06, 07:49 AM
the bicycle

Cycliste
02-09-06, 07:55 AM
the bicycle

This is the first thing that came to my mind when I opened this thread :D

Michigander
02-09-06, 08:17 AM
Cartridge fed centerfire guns using smokeless powder and non corrosive primers. Medical marvels are all fine and well, as are new methods of transportation and modern luxurys, but nothing has had as much impact on the world as easily produced modern weapons.

531Aussie
02-09-06, 09:28 AM
condomsyeah, and the pill!

webist
02-09-06, 10:42 AM
Te elevator deserves honorable mention. Though I tend to agree that the most important was the mechanism to economicly generate, control, store and distribute electric power.

The printing press was certainly a biggie, but I think it predates the 1700's.

cruentus
02-09-06, 09:13 PM
Semiconductor.

sngltrackdufus
02-09-06, 09:22 PM
I would have preconceived notion it would be the wheel :o

classic1
02-09-06, 09:37 PM
Internet porn

free_pizza
02-10-06, 07:37 AM
The elevator deserves honorable mention
essentially its just a system of pulleys.

archimedes invented the pulley thousands of years ago.

TexasGuy
02-10-06, 08:03 AM
Pedantic people need to die :P
THERE WERE NO ELEVATORS THOUSANDS OF Years ago. I don't consider elevators to be that big. I'd rather run up and down stairs :p

free_pizza
02-10-06, 08:09 AM
THERE WERE NO ELEVATORS THOUSANDS OF Years ago. I don't consider elevators to be that big. I'd rather run up and down stairs :p
i didnt say there were elevators thousands of years ago. Im just saying they are basically an addition to an existing invention, kinda like adding a clock to a coffee maker :D..

And yeah, elevators have made the world even more lazy.

TexasGuy
02-10-06, 08:22 AM
Technically speaking almost everything is an addition to something that already existed.

Newton';s apple? please apples and other objects have been falling for numerous of millenia. The dinosaurs and cavemen have drawn stories about this.

Plastiques and what not ? Alchemists have been around for millenia.


I personally believe the harnessing of energy in a controllable and distributable fashion is probably single handedly one of the most change invoking inventions of that era.

free_pizza
02-10-06, 08:26 AM
Newton';s apple? please apples and other objects have been falling for numerous of millenia. The dinosaurs and cavemen have drawn stories about this.



he discovered gravity (meaning he was the first to explain what it was) , he didnt invent it!

free_pizza
02-10-06, 08:27 AM
I personally believe the harnessing of energy in a controllable and distributable fashion is probably single handedly one of the most change invoking inventions of that era.
and yes, i totally agree with that one.

Coyote!
02-10-06, 11:00 AM
Hey free pizza,

>>>The widget inside a can of Guinness

What on the Lord's Green Earth IS that thing?

free_pizza
02-10-06, 12:50 PM
Hey free pizza,

>>>The widget inside a can of Guinness

What on the Lord's Green Earth IS that thing?

Someone may know more about this than i do, but ill give it a shot.

Like most kegs, Guinness needs CO2 to be poured, but it also needs Nitrogen (which most beers dont).
The cans of Guinness (not guinness extra stout) have little balls inside them containing nitrogen (next time you are in a beer store, pick up a can/bottle of guinness and shake it lightly and you'll feel it)

So to get cans of guinness to taste as close as possible to guinness from a tap, they put those nitrogen balls into the cans, and when you open the can, the pressure difference between the can/atmosphere causes the ball to explode, releasing nitrogen into the guinness, making it taste somewhat similar to guinness on tap, even though its not even close to the same goodness.

The bottles have the same thing, except the ball looks like a rocket, thats why they call them "bottle rockets"

Killkenny and Boddingtons cream ale have the same widget.

ngateguy
02-10-06, 01:28 PM
essentially its just a system of pulleys.

archimedes invented the pulley thousands of years ago.

Yes there were types of elevators pre 1700's. The original poster was more than likely thinking of the elevator brake. That is what otis invented that gave us the elevators we have today. My vote is the bicycle

karlfitt
02-10-06, 07:36 PM
Ok, being a Mel Brooks fan I have to say



"Liquid Prell" :D




Anyone here get the reference???

peregrine
02-10-06, 07:57 PM
...
I personally believe the harnessing of energy in a controllable and distributable fashion is probably single handedly one of the most change invoking inventions of that era.

Yup, that's what I was about to write




yeah, and the pill!

:rolleyes: I'm guessing you've never had to take those...

TexasGuy
02-10-06, 08:00 PM
I took the blue pill
and then this rabbit came out
and then this really weird dude started talking in a monotone about the matrix and how he had to save it and what not .

georgiaboy
02-10-06, 08:05 PM
http://seespanrun.com/relevant/clapper.jpg