Track Cycling: Velodrome Racing and Training Area - De bernardi or panasonic frame???

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shishi
02-09-06, 08:57 AM
This would be an entry level bike. I can get either frame (for roughly the same $$) and plan to build it with a miche group. Does anybody have any opinions? Would be for use in PP in Brooklyn and Kissena. I am riding a road conversion panasonic now.

Thanks.

Jamtastic
02-09-06, 11:38 AM
de bernardi si not track geo where as panasonic is. If your riding on track that should be enough. not to mention the very bad paint job on the dernardi. It chips worse than the first of a male duo strip team.
fixedpip
02-10-06, 08:51 AM
I'd say Panasonic easy, just because on the whole their stuff is well made and great riding. My friends Panasonic Keirin frame is just lovely.

Hard to say more than that without some specifics on the model/frame you're considering.

However my impression of the Debernadis is similar to Jamtastic. Their paint is awful and several folks on the SS/FG forum have mentioned quality control issues such as wonky rear 'brake' bridges etc.

Some info on Panasonics on the SS/FG forum:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=167862&highlight=panasonic

shishi
02-10-06, 10:51 AM
I am looking at the NJS panasonic and Zonal Debarnardi.

Thanks.