Mountain Biking - Specialized "P" series

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Trigger1
11-08-02, 07:33 PM
I wonder if THIS (http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkModel.jsp?san=03P2&bl=mountain&my=2003) bike will adapt well to trail use. Seems to be a very tough design, but will be hardtail fast. Should be able to take a good drop. Yet be nimble and fast on flats and climbs. Like the best of both worlds. Anyone ride one. What do you think?


Let's see if I got it right this time................


Maelstrom
11-08-02, 08:07 PM
I did a write up on this type of geometry before. I own a Kona Roast. Very similar in design. Its strengths are drops and light freeriding, urban/street and dirtjumping. The frame is tough and would be fun to ride xc. It is a slacker design so any private areas will have extra standover height tot protect them from damage.

Biggest weakness is its geometry. It is sooo slack that in climbing situations you do tend to tip backwards easier (only affected on extreme climbs.

Other weaknesses are componenets. The EXR is the lowest end fork marzocchi makes. It is for xc, is 4 inches and only has a preload adust. I like the fork but it will only take so much abuse.

Last but no least is my hatred for hayes mechs. Try to trade these and get Avids (same price maybe slightly more). These blow BAD.

Otherwise for the money you can't loose getting this bike and the geometry is AWESOME for just about anything you will want to do. (get ride of the HAYES)

Maelstrom
11-08-02, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Trigger1
I wonder if THIS (http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkModel.jsp?san=03P2&bl=mountain&my=2003) bike will adapt well to trail use. Seems to be a very tough design, but will be hardtail fast. Should be able to take a good drop. Yet be nimble and fast on flats and climbs. Like the best of both worlds. Anyone ride one. What do you think?


Let's see if I got it right this time................

I just noticed a little satement

'will be hardtail fast'...You do know that the bike you have listed IS a ht?


KleinMp99
11-09-02, 08:55 AM
I love my P3, even though I was dumb to get a double crown for it.

MeHT
11-09-02, 11:30 AM
Haven't sold it yet, Klein?
I wonder why.
:p

Maelstrom
11-09-02, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by KleinMp99
I love my P3, even though I was dumb to get a double crown for it.

Just curious Klein. Why?...

KleinMp99
11-09-02, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by MeHT
Haven't sold it yet, Klein?
I wonder why.
:p

Hmm.....ok? Your tryin to tell me its a piece of shît? Well its not...




Originally posted by Maelstrom
Just curious Klein. Why?...

I just dont need that big of a fork......and a double isnt as maneuverable as a single. Thats really the only thing I dont like about the bike, which is why I am selling the whole thing without the fork for $500 also.

Maelstrom
11-09-02, 07:06 PM
Well Iwish I had the cash I would grab it up. I will ask around to some friend who ride and see if they are interested. Can't promise anything though.

KleinMp99
11-09-02, 08:09 PM
If this guy dosent back down, I will have $720 coming my way on monday. But thanks for atleast thinking about helping.

Maelstrom
11-09-02, 08:23 PM
No prob. Anything to help out. I am surprised it is taking so long to get rid of. :)

Trigger1
11-10-02, 04:04 PM
Thanks for the info, and ya I noticed it was a hardtail, the geometry induced slip is what I was refering to. Not only on climbs, but also under high torq.

Maelstrom
11-10-02, 10:06 PM
If anything it is stiffer under high torque. I don't find any flew and I weight in at 250ish and leg press a tonne (metric :D). I don't know of that exact bike but the geometry allows for more freedom in riding from xc to light freeriding to urban/street to dirtjumping. I am biased as I love that geometry over traditional xc geometry but it is very versatile.

Trigger1
11-12-02, 04:49 PM
Thanks

KleinMp99
11-12-02, 05:13 PM
If you have strong legs and a strong upper body, geometry wont matter a whole lot.