BMX - dirt jumps and welgo pedals

im going to do this in mx13 form (get it?)

1. at our trails our smallest jumps is about 1ft and it leads you into a section with a 3 ft jump followed by a copule 4 1/2 - 5 feet talls jumps. What would be an average size gap for jumps this size

2. i was looking at pedals and saw the welgo mg52's or somting like that, sealed bearings and such for 50 dollars. i know alot of people dont really care about sealed bearings for pedals but i defently want em sealed cuz i like dirt and get my bike all muddy alot and im not very good at bike maintainence. what is bad about this pedal. i dont think welgo has a very good name but my poverty welgo knockoff pedals have lasted me almost a year and half so....

1. A foot tall jump doesn't even qualify as such; where I ride, we usually use those as a roller inbetween doubles, if anything. For everything else, it depends on how steep it is; at the trails I've been building at as of late, the set we're working on is a eight-foot long, four-foot tall double, followed by a step-down of the same height and length with a three -foot drop, followed by a five-foot tall, twenty-foot long hip that leads into a pair of five-foot tall, eight-foot long doubles, and a four-foot tall hip that's practically end to end, like a reverse bowl corner in a skatepark.

2. Just get Jim C's.

I second the Jim C. suggestion, I bought some like 6 months ago on Beerman and many others' suggestions and they've held up really well. I don't grind on them, but just general wear and dropping the bike more than a few times hasn't done anything to them, they still spin really smooth. I just got the unsealed aluminum ones.

My DK Iron Cross sealed spin quite good for sealed pedals, thank you.

They also weigh a metric ton, and don't have replaceable pins.

most of them are

1 foot tall jump with like a 6 or 7 foot gap = good jump for leading you into a section...

anyways a 20 foot hip = amazingly huge

like i said. the rest of the jumps in the line are 4 1/2 to 5 feet high with my estimate is 8-9 foot gaps.

and seald jim c's = like 75 dolalrs

Only if you get the magnesium ones. The sealed aluminum are cheaper

*goes to check it out*

There are three thing odyssey have given us, forks, pedals, and, er....

Unsealed JC's are much stronger than most other unsealed, but the sealed are even better.

There are three thing odyssey have given us, forks, pedals, and, er....

Barefeet Tires!



anyways a 20 foot hip = amazingly huge

Uh... no. One of the old doubles that we have that needs a lot of work (actually, the whole set it's in needs work) is about 30 feet in a straight line from the closer of the two lips it has.

most of them are

Some, not most.

There are three thing odyssey have given us, forks, pedals, and, er....

Brakes.

They also weigh a metric ton, and don't have replaceable pins.

Magnesium is available. Can be had for same price as aluminum.

Wrong on the pins ( :eek: :p as posted above :p :eek: ).

I destroyed my Welgo's tonight, turned the bearings to powder.

Time for some Crank Brothers 50/50's.

There are three thing odyssey have given us, forks, pedals, and, er....
Gyro.

Gyro.

That was covered under "brakes", as I typed above...

Except for the fact that a gyro isn't a pair of brakes, and Odyssey was making gyros before any other company was.

Gyros are for brakes. I have failed to find alternate uses...

Except for the fact that a gyro isn't a pair of brakes, and Odyssey was making gyros before any other company was.

I was running one of these in '84:

http://www.23mag.com/com/acs/acsrot85.jpg

Not Odyssey...ACS.

A rotor is not a gyro; Odyssey was the first company to produce the style of detangler that we still have in use today.

And, still, gyros are not synonomous with brakes.

A rotor is not a gyro; Odyssey was the first company to produce the style of detangler that we still have in use today.

And, still, gyros are not synonomous with brakes.

Their goals are one in the same. They are only slightly differenty in their design goals. Gyro isn't the 1st product to produce the same goal of no tangled cables.

On a BMX forum, a gyro IS synonomous with BRAKES. Duh.

On a BMX forum, a gyro IS synonomous with BRAKES. Duh.


http://www.danscomp.com/products/BRAKES/480003.jpghttp://www.danscomp.com/products/GYROS/512025.jpg


I think there's a difference

It's a smaller, 2-wire (2 in/2 out vs. 1 in/1 out) version of a Rotor.

Next you guy's will be typing BMX bikes could have happened without out the invention of the wheel...geez!

Their goals are one in the same. They are only slightly differenty in their design goals. Gyro isn't the 1st product to produce the same goal of no tangled cables.

On a BMX forum, a gyro IS synonomous with BRAKES. Duh.

1) The goals may be the same, but the gyro was a vast improvement on the original rotor. Everyone knows that.

2) A gyro is hardly synonymous with brakes. For Queens, for example, his shoes are his brakes. And me? I use a straight cable. Also, the last time that I checked, the gyro isn't what's stopping your wheel from rotating.

i rarely use my feet anymore. i do a g-turn type thing and make my pegs spark on the floor. looks pretty cool

180 grinder? Haha.

1) The goals may be the same, but the gyro was a vast improvement on the original rotor. Everyone knows that.

2) A gyro is hardly synonymous with brakes. For Queens, for example, his shoes are his brakes. And me? I use a straight cable. Also, the last time that I checked, the gyro isn't what's stopping your wheel from rotating.

1) I never disputed which was better. The gyro descended from the rotor.

2) What other use is a gyro in BMX? Please tell me.

Checklist:

Not....

pegs
axles
hubs
wheels
spokes
nipples
sprocket
crank
crank bearings
chain
freewheel/cassette
handlebar
stem
grips
fork
headset
frame
pedals
seat
seatpost
seatpost clamp

Okay, so WTF is the Gyro used for? :eek:

What you are arguing is that a gyro is a brake; well, if that's true, than my lever is a brake as well.

Face the fact. You made a dumb comment when you told that guy that "gyro" was already covered when you said "brakes".

What you are arguing is that a gyro is a brake; well, if that's true, than my lever is a brake as well.

Face the fact. You made a dumb comment when you told that guy that "gyro" was already covered when you said "brakes".

As stated in several different ways above: What the hell else is it used in BMX for then?

As stated in several different ways above: the gyro is not grabbing the rims.

I'm still awaiting to hear it's other BMX uses...

We all know that it's used to keep your brake cable from getting tangled. I'm not stupid.

It's still not the brake.

But it IS a part of a brake system. ;) :p

So from a company's perspective, if they recieved an order for a gyro, it would be perfectly acceptable to ship a brake instead?

i rarely use my feet anymore. i do a g-turn type thing and make my pegs spark on the floor. looks pretty cool

explain this....sounds tight.

But it IS a part of a brake system. ;) :p
thank you. you just disagreed wtih everything you said before.

beerman was arguing its not the brake but part of the system

you argued it was the break.

prozakk - 0 beerman - alot more then 0

now back to..."dirt jumps and welgo pedals"...lets try keeping this thread ontopic

Im in the same position as you mike...






im looking for good "trail" pedals (if there is such a thing)


im decideing between:
The Wellgo's on Staff BMX that are sealed that i think your talking about
Odyssey Jim C's MG
and or
Wellgo MG-1's (even though they explode, im willing to risk it because im somewhat smooth as far as i DONT pedal grind or bang em up bad)



Someone help me, and mike...




haha

Jim C's...

Jim C. pedals rock.

Jim C Mg's(unsealed) (http://www.staff-bmx.com/store/pedals/ody-jc-mag_n.html) VS. Wellgo Mg-52's (sealed) (http://www.staff-bmx.com/store/pedals/wellgo_mg52_n.html) VS. Wellgo Mg-4's (unsealed) (http://www.staff-bmx.com/store/pedals/wellgo-mg4_n.html)


Im leaning towards the Wellgo Mg52's...Sealed, light and fairly priced....

Or get the aluminum, non-sealed Jim C's, for 30 bucks and have your choice of a lot of different colors.

That said, that Mg symbol sure is sexy. And the sealed Mg ones are quite tempting to get for my new bike when I get it.

Im not going to get aluminum pedals.
2 reasons:
1.Im not hard on pedals
and
2.there heavier and i dont need them (see #1)

Then since you're made of money, and worry about weight, and want sealed pedals, at least get the sealed magnesium ones. Or hire someone to make some custom titanium ones or whatever for you. lol

im not made of money, thats why im not getting Reuben Pedals or Odyssey Jim C Mg sealeds...


i think im going to go with the Sealed Wellgo Mg52 because there light, sealed and cheaper than the other sealed pedals...and still decent...yeah

thank you. you just disagreed wtih everything you said before.

beerman was arguing its not the brake but part of the system

you argued it was the break.

prozakk - 0 beerman - alot more then 0

I stated gyro was included under brakes above.

DONT DIE, we have TRAILS TO RAISE!

you cant leave me as a single parent !