Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Update on Torrin Arnold / Lucklust

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kinthy
03-03-06, 11:08 AM
http://www.marinij.com/marin/ci_3566663

Per District Attorney, Case dropped because medical evidence showed Arnold faking blindness all along.


KrisPistofferson
03-03-06, 11:13 AM
This is terrible. Oh, and **** you, troll.

HereNT
03-03-06, 11:15 AM
Arnold boasted about his aggressive riding on the Internet and claimed to be riding "brakeless," but later said his writing had been fiction that he was quite proud of.

Guess bikeForums can come back to bite you. I got an update PM awhile ago saying that his sight was slowly coming back. Guess that was faked too?


jaypee
03-03-06, 11:15 AM
"Arnold boasted about his aggressive riding on the Internet and claimed to be riding "brakeless," but later said his writing had been fiction that he was quite proud of."

And this is why people involved in accidents should keep their mouths shut.

jedi_steve420
03-03-06, 11:16 AM
haha... Torrin Danger Arnold... "Danger's my middle name baby" I don't know how he could experience road rage when everynight he gets to go out and use that line at the bar. I don't really know enough about the case to comment any furthur than that.

harryhood
03-03-06, 11:18 AM
if any of this is true, i do not see how this would instantly drop a criminal case. the fact that Arrigoni tried to kill Lucklust using his vehicle as a deadly weapon remains.

Toolshed
03-03-06, 11:20 AM
"A jubilant Arrigoni left the courtroom with an entourage for a celebratory lunch at Le Chalet Basque after the hearing."

That's journalism, baby.

kinthy
03-03-06, 11:20 AM
Guess bikeForums can come back to bite you. I got an update PM awhile ago saying that his sight was slowly coming back. Guess that was faked too?



Yes

onetwentyeight
03-03-06, 11:22 AM
Thats Marin for you.

asterisk
03-03-06, 11:23 AM
if any of this is true, i do not see how this would instantly drop a criminal case. the fact that Arrigoni tried to kill Lucklust using his vehicle as a deadly weapon remains.

i think the argument is that, if arnold lies about something so huge as going blind, that his honor can't really be trusted for anything else.

AfterThisNap
03-03-06, 11:24 AM
I want to write a letter to the truck driver explaining that all cyclists aren't ******s like that guy.
It's a big blow against how cyclists are percieved on the road.

wangster
03-03-06, 11:27 AM
sucks....the guys deserved jail but now he's free to do as he please again.

crushkilldstroy
03-03-06, 11:29 AM
you have got to be ****ing kidding me. how can anyone even think they can get away with that?

harryhood
03-03-06, 11:30 AM
i think the argument is that, if arnold lies about something so huge as going blind, that his honor can't really be trusted for anything else.

i see what you mean, but how about the honor of the witnesses? i don't think the criminal charge was "caused blindess," the charge was "felony hit-and-run."

boots
03-03-06, 11:35 AM
arrigoni just looks like a humongous tool

harryhood
03-03-06, 11:38 AM
Guess bikeForums can come back to bite you. I got an update PM awhile ago saying that his sight was slowly coming back. Guess that was faked too?



Yes

who are you kinthy? are you close with Torrin?

kennethalan
03-03-06, 11:39 AM
Can I have his seeing eye dog? Is it NJS?

ostro
03-03-06, 11:39 AM
Im pretty bothered by this! not sure how i feel

crushkilldstroy
03-03-06, 11:39 AM
who are you kinthy? are you close with Torrin?

someone else said that first. dude just doesn't know how to quote.

karmical
03-03-06, 11:40 AM
i just hope that at the civil proceedings, torins' attrns can use idiots' exuberance in his criminal exoneration to show that he is really not feeling any remoarse what- so -ever in his running over a person on a bicycle, because this in the end is what you did... regardless... prick

what a jerk, and to the tool(s) posting... i hope our paths cross one day

jaypee
03-03-06, 11:42 AM
Regardless, it's a ****ty situation.

And yeah, the OP is coming off as a ******. Someone associated with Arrigoni?

timmhaan
03-03-06, 11:46 AM
has this story been published in other papers? anyone care to throw up a few links? also, has it been mentioned on the local news or anything? just trying to get another angle....

KrisPistofferson
03-03-06, 11:47 AM
Regardless, it's a ****ty situation.

And yeah, the OP is coming off as a ******. Someone associated with Arrigoni?Every single time there is a newspaper article that can possibly reflect badly on Lucklust, it's always posted here by some "newbie." So I'd say so, yes.

The LT
03-03-06, 11:50 AM
ya it certainly seems to me that "they" (assuming "they" are affiliated with Arrigoni) are trying to convince us that lucklust is a bad person or something

timmhaan
03-03-06, 11:52 AM
Guess bikeForums can come back to bite you. I got an update PM awhile ago saying that his sight was slowly coming back. Guess that was faked too?



Yes

how could you get a PM, if you're newly registered?? i guess this is a new account to disperse this news?

onetwentyeight
03-03-06, 11:53 AM
Does anyone have a link to the original story? I kinda missed this the first time around. I'm amused he was riding fixed though, I lived in Marin for quite a long time and only once did I see another fixed gear bicycle.

dolface
03-03-06, 11:55 AM
how could you get a PM, if you're newly registered?? i guess this is a new account to disperse this news?

it's just a malformed quote, look up the page to see the op

timmhaan
03-03-06, 12:02 PM
it's just a malformed quote, look up the page to see the op

ah, gotcha. thanks.

Aeroplane
03-03-06, 12:08 PM
Im pretty bothered by this! not sure how i feel
+1. Who do you believe?

r-dub
03-03-06, 12:13 PM
story is indeed ****y all around, but I hate that perp's lawyers and/or associates get on here to badmouth torrin. Interesting that a member who joined in Jan '06 would make their first post on this topic (one that few folks who haven't been here over a year would know about) and would refer to Torrin by his screen name, when he hasn't posted since last June...

harryhood
03-03-06, 12:22 PM
i just hope that at the civil proceedings, torins' attrns can use idiots' exuberance in his criminal exoneration to show that he is really not feeling any remoarse what- so -ever in his running over a person on a bicycle, because this in the end is what you did... regardless... prick

what a jerk, and to the tool(s) posting... i hope our paths cross one day

yeah, the picture of Arrigoni makes him look like he just cheated his way out of a high school detention. way to go! big arm swing! pumped up! i hope karma comes back to haunt him. you don't just "get out of" attempted murder, *******. you don't leave a scene of an accident, *******. what a ****ing upright citizen of Marin.

as for the OP, ... nevermind.

Sinfield
03-03-06, 12:25 PM
Hahaha...am I the only one who immediatly thought of Arrested Development when I read about the dude faking blindness?

46x17
03-03-06, 12:27 PM
I have a very hard time believing someone would fake blindness for over a year. Not saying it is impossible, but going all the way with guard dog, brail school, support money, and on top of that fooling all your friends and people you know seems very extreme. I know I for sure would not be willing and/or able to pull a stunt like that for such a long time. Anyway, not sure how to feel about it, but you'd think assessing blindness shouldn't be too hard, so there could be an answer to this question.

shants
03-03-06, 12:33 PM
i don't really know with whom the facts actually lie, but if torrin was indeed feigning blindness -- and lied on the stand -- then the case pretty much had to be dropped because his testimony was rendered unreliable. the witnesses said that they didn't actually see a collision (according to the article), which, although the swerving seems like it'd be pretty obvious, it doesn't eliminate doubt. if -- and i emphasize this conditional -- he was lying, then he really ****ed himself on this one. the prosecutor really isn't going to win the case. and, ****, how would you feel if you were in charge of the case and worked closely with someone, only to find out that they fabricated testimony and faked injury? i'd probably say "**** this case," too.

harryhood
03-03-06, 12:36 PM
story is indeed ****y all around, but I hate that perp's lawyers and/or associates get on here to badmouth torrin. Interesting that a member who joined in Jan '06 would make their first post on this topic (one that few folks who haven't been here over a year would know about) and would refer to Torrin by his screen name, when he hasn't posted since last June...

indeed. and then the OP makes their first 2 posts here, then goes and plays word association in foo. dunno why that amuses me. i can just imagine "huh, so this is the internets, is it?"

jfmckenna
03-03-06, 12:56 PM
So based on one wishy washy report from supposed ophthalmologist and the whole case is dropped? Wasn't that pig dog Arrigoni’s family in bed with the local government some how too? Even if Torrin is a total lier the guy is still a criminal. He's a heartless bastard that got cought red handed and is now set free. I declare a fatwa.

Well can Torrin at least ride again?

kinthy
03-03-06, 12:57 PM
Harryhood your post made me chuckle. Touche. I am probably not the most internet savvy person on here. If posting an article I found to be interesting, and disconcerting, make me a troll then I am a troll, whatever that is. And I am a female that cannot quote a former post with alacrity, not a dude. Have a great day y'all. Bye

jaypee
03-03-06, 01:07 PM
Wasn't that pig dog Arrigoni’s family in bed with the local government some how too?

His father is a former county supervisor. James Arrigoni is apparently a mortgage broker.

shants
03-03-06, 01:08 PM
So based on one wishy washy report from supposed ophthalmologist and the whole case is dropped? Wasn't that pig dog Arrigoni’s family in bed with the local government some how too? Even if Torrin is a total lier the guy is still a criminal. He's a heartless bastard that got cought red handed and is now set free. I declare a fatwa.

Well can Torrin at least ride again?

yes, the guy is a criminal and it's horrible, but it's pretty much impossible to get a conviction in a case where the prosecution's crucial witness is shown to have lied (not only about the blindness, but about even visiting that doctor at all -- he had a "psychotic" episode and couldn't go, or so he said*), especially after the defense has pointed out that he has a history of retaliation against automobiles. all of us tend to favor the cyclist's perspective, because, well, we empathize, but, for someone in the jury who is neutral about the matter, that really destroys any credibility that he and the prosecution's case have. the other witnesses certainly indicate that something was afoot, but they cannot prove that the guy actually hit him.

the guy who swerved at torrin is obviously a ****ing cockbag for raging against him with an automobile, but i wouldn't blame the prosecution at all for dropping the case. had there been no dishonesty, the case probably would have been won.

* - the prosecution could have questioned the testimony of the opthomologist had torrin acknowledged that he went to the appointment and said that, despite the findings, the man is wrong. but, according to the news article posted, he denied that he even went, which a) is a lie, and b) looks strongly like an attempt to hide the fact that someone found him out.

harryhood
03-03-06, 01:08 PM
Harryhood your post made me chuckle. Touche. I am probably not the most internet savvy person on here. If posting an article I found to be interesting, and disconcerting, make me a troll then I am a troll, whatever that is. And I am a female that cannot quote a former post with alacrity, not a dude. Have a great day y'all. Bye

what's your relation with Torrin? you've obvoiusly have been following the saga.

eat_raw
03-03-06, 01:23 PM
you have got to be ****ing kidding me. how can anyone even think they can get away with that?

Well, given the amount of clueless sympathy posts about the dude from those who had contact him

it follows that he figured he'd be able to get away with it cause there are so many idiots out there

talk about DUMB ASSes

and, for anyone who's been hit by a car, it really hits home

sucks all around

ostro
03-03-06, 01:28 PM
Well, given the amount of clueless sympathy posts about the dude from those who had contact him

it follows that he figured he'd be able to get away with it cause there are so many idiots out there

talk about DUMB ASSes

im not quite sure what you are trying to imply here, but those of us who have at least met torrin believed him and supported him. We are not dumbasses for helping someone we felt was truly in need, it apears you may be the clueless dumbass. :fight:

eat_raw
03-03-06, 01:36 PM
im not quite sure what you are trying to imply here, but those of us who have at least met torrin believed him and supported him. We are not dumbasses for helping someone we felt was truly in need, it apears you may be the clueless dumbass. :fight:

Let me spell it out:

you're around someone (APPARENTLY) who is faking blindness
and you don't catch on
and you come on BIKEFORUMs supporting his claims
then YOU (in general) are an idiot
and HE's used you in his perverted game
I find it all disturbing

especially since I was struck by a car last year

that's all I'm saying

the dude's been exposed, apparently

take your licks like a man

a DUMBASS

harryhood
03-03-06, 01:41 PM
especially since I was struck by a car last year

should i believe you? and if i did, you'd label me a DUMBASS?

mcatano
03-03-06, 01:42 PM
Do his eyes still owe the rest of his face some rent money? Maybe his eyes were just on some weird rough sex getaway for the weekend and they didn't want his face to know? Did anyone call his father's eyes yet?

eat_raw
03-03-06, 01:46 PM
should i believe you? and if i did, you'd label me a DUMBASS?

hit the nail on the head:

who has credibility after this ****?

how many fingers am I holding up?

ostro
03-03-06, 01:50 PM
all i am saying is that people who help other people in time of need are not dumbasses.

You tell me, How does someone act when they are faking blindness, do they just lie to the people they are trying to fool, or just to a huge group of friends and family. I certainly have not ever (previously?) met anyone who has faked blindness.

If it is true then i think Torrin owes alot of people an appology, however, I think we may need to let this incident expose it self beyond a local newspaper and OP troll.

harryhood
03-03-06, 01:57 PM
hit the nail on the head:

who has credibility after this ****?

how many fingers am I holding up?

so are you that skeptical about everything you do, anyone you meet?

and why are you trying to elicit sympathy by lying about being in a bike crash last year? that's pretty low.

Saintly Loser
03-03-06, 01:57 PM
yes, the guy is a criminal and it's horrible, but it's pretty much impossible to get a conviction in a case where the prosecution's crucial witness is shown to have lied (not only about the blindness, but about even visiting that doctor at all -- he had a "psychotic" episode and couldn't go, or so he said*), especially after the defense has pointed out that he has a history of retaliation against automobiles.

Exactly. I have no axe to grind in this case. I don't know Mr. Torrin, or Mr. Arrigoni, in the real world or online. But I do know that a prosecutor, once he's discovered that the supposed victim of a crime has committed, or is likely to commit, perjury, has a very real problem. A lawyer who puts a witness on the stand knowing that that witness will perjure him/herself can be disbarred. And if that witness' testimony is shown to be false, nothing that witness says in further testimony will be believed by a jury. Or by a judge, in a non-jury trial. If the prosecution's case was built on Mr. Torrin's testimony, and some of Mr. Torrin's testimony was shown to be false, the case is over, period.

onetwentyeight
03-03-06, 02:00 PM
Is there a civil suit going? Or is that screwed too now?