Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Sugino BB removal tool help.

After a quick search of the forums, sheldon, and park tools. I came up with nothing on what tool is needed to remove my sugino BB. It's not the 75 and it came on a Keirin frame I recently purchased. I can get a pic up in a minute if no one here knows off hand.

Feel free to mock all you want.

Isn't it the standard Shimano spline?

edit: Is this a sealed cartridge BB, or cup and cone?

No, got that tool.

http://www.bikepro.com/products/bottom_brackets/tool.html

At the bottom of this page is a pin spanner. That appears to be what I need, right?

It has holes in a cricle instead of the round part with teeth.

edit: I am about 95 % sure it is cup and cone.

you need a pin spanner (i use this one http://parktool.com/products/detail.asp?cat=25&item=SPA%2D1) and a lockring wrench.

if you want to remove the fixed cup you may need a fixed-cup removal tool if it's really stuck in there.

it's cup and cone.
you'll need:
- lockring spanner
- pin spanner
- fixed cup spanner

that sugino tool set combines everything you need

http://i2.tinypic.com/qzqa9l.jpg

Thanks dolface.

I kinda answered my own question after I continued to search. :)

you will be able to get the adjustable cup off with a pin spanner and a lockring spanner. the fixed cup.. well, there are a couple of ways, depending on how tight it's on there and how much you care about the cup.

the ghettoest way is to just ****ing take a pair of vice grips (or a large ass adjustable wrench) lock them on the flat sides, throw on a cheater bar, and torque it off. chances are that you'll get a lot of slippage and will gore the cup a bit (and maybe the bottom bracket shell).

still ghetto, but highly effective (but can be really hard to get the tool off of the cup when you're done), is to go to the hardware store and make the sheldon-brown style fixed cup remover : http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tooltips/bbcups.html

not so ghetto, but not necessariliy very good at getting off REALLY tight cups, is a fixed cup wrench that just has a hole that fits over the whole cup.

the best way is to go to the shop and have them take it off with something like the hozan fixed cup tool - http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id=703200587945&d=single&c=Tools&sc=Bottom%20Bracket&tc=Fixed%20Cup%20Removers&item_id=HZ-C358
it won't **** up the cup at all and will get it off in no time.

yeah, sounds liek you have a standard cup and cone BB.

The two holes are NOT how to remove it; those are for making adjustments.

You need a lockring hook tool to remove the lockring on the non-drive side and then the adjusting cup should pretty much thread out by hand. If you try to use a pin spanner without loosening the lockring, you will just break your pin spanner.

Fixed cups are a ***** to get out. If yours has good wrench flats on it, you can usually clamp the cup in a vice by the wrench flats and use the whole frame as a wrench to crack the cup loose.

Most fixed cups have lefthand threads. See if you can find out what your frame and BB uses before removing the fixed cup or you could break something.

If you can't get a good grip in a vice, I had luck recently with a monkey wrench (it looks like a pipe wrench but has parallel, flat faces and adjusts like a crescent wrench). I used a bolt and washers through the cup to clamp the wrench against the fixed cup and tightened the wrench down against the wrench flats on the cup. This keeps the wrench from slipping off of the flats when you apply force.

Wow, I appreciate all the fast advice.

and nice peloton btw! ;)

i have that stuff if you need to borrow it.

I might take you up on that visitor.