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CrowesFan
03-15-06, 09:38 PM
I am looking at getting another tattoo and I am looking for a Chicago artist. I am looking for an artist that does Japanese art. Can anyone suggest someone in the area?
Also.....anyone have some pics of their tats to share?
Are you Japanese?
This is on my right shoulder
Travelinguyrt
03-16-06, 05:35 AM
Tatts A poor mans art got one when I was YOUNG and VERY DUMB
I don't know about that. I paid $200 for that dragon, and I have 2 Parrish prints and a R. A. Fox print (all three real deals, not later repros) plus a signed Gary Raham original litho 2/100, that in total I paid less for than the three tats I have.
KingTermite
03-16-06, 05:48 AM
Yes, tats great...they show your invuviduality and make you unique....just like everybody else.
56/12 and 22/28
03-16-06, 06:40 AM
I have a tear tattoo under my left eye.
Worthless without a pic! :p
My brother has a tattoo on his shoulder of a very serious looking Samuri. He got it about 10 years ago and, with age and his job, his shoulders have gotten wider and now the Samuri is smiling.
The point of this story.....everything spreads with age so that's something to consider when getting a tattoo. :D
giantcfr1
03-16-06, 08:13 AM
These are my friends':
First is a female friend's. I swear it says V N *****
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/stefbrn55/stray%20pics/vn*****.jpg
(bummer, the system thinks it's a rudy word)
Second is my training partner's. Any guesses for what it is? Hint: Shimano
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/giantcfr1/Mates%20Bikes/keirin.jpg
Steve
CrowesFan
03-16-06, 08:30 AM
No, I am not Japanese. I just like Japanese tattoo art. I have seen some "landscape" pieces done that were just incredible. I am considering something involving a bonzai tree, water, flowers....uh....anything else I should put in? The below pic is something I really liked.
CrowesFan
03-16-06, 08:31 AM
"Tatts A poor mans art got one when I was YOUNG and VERY DUMB"
Well, they are not for everyone and I am not young. Sorry you feel that way. Maybe you can find another thread to read?
CrowesFan
03-16-06, 08:36 AM
My brother has a tattoo on his shoulder of a very serious looking Samuri. He got it about 10 years ago and, with age and his job, his shoulders have gotten wider and now the Samuri is smiling.
The point of this story.....everything spreads with age so that's something to consider when getting a tattoo. :D
There are a lot of things to consider when getting a tattoo. A good artist will advise you on how the tattoo will age with time adn ways to prevent certain aging. That is why I am posting on here to find a good tattoo artist. Have to do your research.
No, I am not Japanese. I just like Japanese tattoo art. I have seen some "landscape" pieces done that were just incredible. I am considering something involving a bonzai tree, water, flowers....uh....anything else I should put in? The below pic is something I really liked.
IMHO... Buy some wall art.
There's just something disrespectful to me about adorning your body with the iconography of a culture that's alien to yours. IE: Irish folks getting "Tribal Art" pieces... c'mon, what tribe are they, Murphy?
Again, this is just my opinion. It's your skin & your money to do with as you please. I truly wish you well in you quest and contentment in the results.
free_pizza
03-16-06, 09:09 AM
(bummer, the system thinks it's a rudy word)
spell it out with a mistake, then tell us what the mistake is...
CrowesFan
03-16-06, 09:27 AM
IMHO... Buy some wall art.
There's just something disrespectful to me about adorning your body with the iconography of a culture that's alien to yours. IE: Irish folks getting "Tribal Art" pieces... c'mon, what tribe are they, Murphy?
Again, this is just my opinion. It's your skin & your money to do with as you please. I truly wish you well in you quest and contentment in the results.
I am sorry you feel that way. I have always been interested in Japanses culture. It is something I read about and study often. I fail to see how that is disrespectful. I think that is unfortunate to discourage individuals to branch out into other cultures. Everyone is so quick to judge...
I woudl compare your statement to saying I should not listen to jazz and blues music, because it was founded in the south, made popular during the Harlem Renaissance, by African Americans. Because I am not an African American, I cannot listen to or play jazz?
I respect your opinion. Just because you were not born into a culture, does not mean you cannot respect that culture and want to honor and show your respect for that culture.
Does anyone have an artist suggestion? That was the whole reason for the post. Thanks!!!
I am sorry you feel that way. I have always been interested in Japanses culture. It is something I read about and study often. I fail to see how that is disrespectful. I think that is unfortunate to discourage individuals to branch out into other cultures. Everyone is so quick to judge...
I woudl compare your statement to saying I should not listen to jazz and blues music, because it was founded in the south, made popular during the Harlem Renaissance, by African Americans. Because I am not an African American, I cannot listen to or play jazz?
I respect your opinion. Just because you were not born into a culture, does not mean you cannot respect that culture and want to honor and show your respect for that culture.
Does anyone have an artist suggestion? That was the whole reason for the post. Thanks!!!
There's no need for you to appologize. But I would appreciate it if you wouldn't read things in to my comments that aren't there. There is nothing wrong with taking interest in other cultures... I play Blues Guitar myself. How much more 'black' can that be? Respecting cultures is fine too, and that's where my position lies. If you were aware of the whole history of tatoo yo'd know that their origins are steeped in cultural identification and not cool fashion accessories. I find it laughable to see folks with Cherokee and Apache based tribal piece interlaced.
Again good luck in your quest, and please come back with pictures. :)
CrowesFan
03-16-06, 09:58 AM
There's no need for you to appologize. But I would appreciate it if you wouldn't read things in to my comments that aren't there. There is nothing wrong with taking interest in other cultures... I play Blues Guitar myself. How much more 'black' can that be? Respecting cultures is fine too, and that's where my position lies. If you were aware of the whole history of tatoo yo'd know that their origins are steeped in cultural identification and not cool fashion accessories. I find it laughable to see folks with Cherokee and Apache based tribal piece interlaced.
Again good luck in your quest, and please come back with pictures. :)
Thanks for the tattoo lesson....wasn't necessary. You were assuming.
Thanks again.
sngltrackdufus
03-16-06, 10:12 AM
I have a tear tattoo under my left eye.
So i take it that you've been to the Penn?
sngltrackdufus
03-16-06, 10:18 AM
Yes, tats great...they show your invuviduality and make you unique....just like everybody else.
Not neccessarily, fine line between what's "truth" & what's "cool"
So i take it that you've been to the Penn?
I believe (or have found in my experience) that a tear/eye tattoo is for lost/dead children. All of the people i have known with that tattoo either had been forced to give children up for adoption or their children had died.
***edit***
i should a description of my tat i suppose: I have a celtic knot with a hollow center on my left shoulder (mom is irish), in the middle is says 'Ubie' in hebrew (dad is jewish) in my handwriting. Ubie is our family nickname.
CrowesFan
03-16-06, 07:57 PM
I believe (or have found in my experience) that a tear/eye tattoo is for lost/dead children. All of the people i have known with that tattoo either had been forced to give children up for adoption or their children had died.
***edit***
i should a description of my tat i suppose: I have a celtic knot with a hollow center on my left shoulder (mom is irish), in the middle is says 'Ubie' in hebrew (dad is jewish) in my handwriting. Ubie is our family nickname.
Love to see a pic, Ubie! Share..
I have heard many descriptions of the eye tat...some say that if it is not filled in then they are
plotting revenge" or someone has not been "avenged". If it is filled in, then they have avenged the person they got the tattoo for. Who knows.
Tattoo's are personal. They can mean anything you want them to mean. At least, that is my philosophy. Right now, the nautical star is popular. In the 70's and 80's, the nautical star represented if you were gay or not. The nautical star can also represent guidance or direction in life/journey. The sailors used to get those tattoo's to help guide them home.
jyossarian
03-16-06, 08:32 PM
I think there's a Show your Ink thread in the SS/FG forum if you're looking for pics.
classic1
03-16-06, 08:44 PM
Crowesfan.
Are you a 'Blacks Crowes' fan? A mate of mine has a tat of the two stoned crowes shown in the gatesleeve of the Black Crowes first album.
sngltrackdufus
03-16-06, 11:15 PM
I believe (or have found in my experience) that a tear/eye tattoo is for lost/dead children. All of the people i have known with that tattoo either had been forced to give children up for adoption or their children had died.
***edit***
i should a description of my tat i suppose: I have a celtic knot with a hollow center on my left shoulder (mom is irish), in the middle is says 'Ubie' in hebrew (dad is jewish) in my handwriting. Ubie is our family nickname.
thats odd, not saying wrong or right (doesnt matter to me) but i always understood it (teardrop under eye) meant a "nickel" in pocket or in another variation , you have killed someone.
Aus_MTB
03-17-06, 01:11 AM
Haha sorry but after reading This (http://www.soufoaklin.com/tattooartist.html) on another forums 30 seconds ago i couldnt help but post it.
I don't have any tats, have considered it but its a fairly big commitment which im not prepared to take atm. My roomate has a pretty cool one though
Sakai doesn’t feel guilty about using hapless college students as canvases for his graffiti.
“I think I’m helping my fellow man by labeling all the stupid people in the world,” he explained. “It’s not a crime, it’s a public service.
Thanks for posting that, it's pricless! What a hoot! Only if he'd use subtitles so we knew just how stupid they were. :lol:
spell "yssup" backwards and you've got the missing part of the URL.
These are my friends':
First is a female friend's. I swear it says V N *****
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/stefbrn55/stray%20pics/vn*****.jpg
(bummer, the system thinks it's a rudy word)
Second is my training partner's. Any guesses for what it is? Hint: Shimano
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/giantcfr1/Mates%20Bikes/keirin.jpg
Steve
FatguyRacer
03-17-06, 01:32 PM
Are you a 'Blacks Crowes' fan? A mate of mine has a tat of the two stoned crowes shown in the gatesleeve of the Black Crowes first album.
Great idea. I've been wondering what to get for my next tat. Being a life long Alman Bros. fan, i think i get a mushroom tat.
nick burns
03-17-06, 01:59 PM
Check out the work on this guy's page. Some pretty cool stuff.
http://www.blackbirdsf.org/chainwheels/
I'm patiently waiting for a friend to finish the design on Campy Athena double crank, minus the crankarm, for my right shoulder. I'll post a pic when it's finished.
Yes, tats great...they show your invuviduality and make you unique....just like everybody else.
True, if you pick one from the shops flash art or copy another person's tattoo.
If it's an "original" then it does show your individuality so you're not like everyone else.
The tattoo artist drew both of mine from pics and graphics I supplied. The only part that is flash art are the feathers. The medicine wheel he modified from some flash art the shop had.
The wolf tattoo is only 9 days old. I'm allergic to the bacitracin ointment so the red is from the rash. It should be gone in a few more days. The other tattoo wraps around my leg - similar to a band tattoo.
I'm considering getting the chainring/yin-yang as my next tattoo. Just not sure where I want it.
I have a tear tattoo under my left eye.
In england thats a borstal tattoo.borstal being a young offenders prison
56/12 and 22/28
03-24-06, 05:17 AM
In england thats a borstal tattoo.borstal being a young offenders prison
Sweet.
If I ever end up in England, no one will mess with me! :)
Tatts A poor mans art got one when I was YOUNG and VERY DUMB
Poor mans art??? At $300 and up, most "poor" people can't afford artwork. I sure couldn't in my past life.
Mo'Phat
04-03-06, 03:15 PM
I'm considering getting the chainring/yin-yang as my next tattoo. Just not sure where I want it.
Be ready for the catcalls of, "Is it a 110 bcd compact?"
/not from me, of course...
Mo'Phat
04-03-06, 03:32 PM
True, if you pick one from the shops flash art or copy another person's tattoo.
If it's an "original" then it does show your individuality so you're not like everyone else.
I think that what KingTermite was saying is that the concept of getting a tattoo is so played. Everybody has one (it seems) and regardless of if it's a flash off a wall or an original design, it's still painting your body to set yourself apart...just like everybody else.
Every fad (and tattoos are a fad...really, they are.) has scores of followers, ergo nobody is individual. We're all like everybody else. Even the freaks are just following what the freaks before them did. Name a truly unique person, and someone else can name something they're emulating or a sect that's done it all before.
If it floats your boat, good on ya. I wasn't going to let anybody tell me not to pierce my ears 7 times or grow a 2' ponytail. (I've since removed the earrings and cut the hair...glad I was able to.)
I think that what KingTermite was saying is that the concept of getting a tattoo is so played. Everybody has one (it seems) and regardless of if it's a flash off a wall or an original design, it's still painting your body to set yourself apart...just like everybody else.
Every fad (and tattoos are a fad...really, they are.) has scores of followers, ergo nobody is individual. We're all like everybody else. Even the freaks are just following what the freaks before them did. Name a truly unique person, and someone else can name something they're emulating or a sect that's done it all before.
If it floats your boat, good on ya. I wasn't going to let anybody tell me not to pierce my ears 7 times or grow a 2' ponytail. (I've since removed the earrings and cut the hair...glad I was able to.)
I don't think they are a fad at all. Most times, or at least the people who do it without being drunk. Usually bring some sort of unique art, or something that they personally drew. It can be done for all sorts of reasons, remembrance of someone who passed, remember a significant event in your life, something that looks cool. The rumor that people do it because everyone else is doing it and its a fad is ridiculous. Though Im sure some people do it for that reason I think the majority of people who do it is for personal reasons. I personally think when it first came on the scene it wasn't socially acceptable thats why very few people got them. Now its becoming alot more acceptable because of the fact everyone has one.
Here are a few of mine. I have more, but don't have good pics. Once I get married and have money again, I plan on getting many more.
Left forearm
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/x43x/LeftForearm.jpg
Left calf
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/x43x/LeftCalf2.jpg
Right arm
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/x43x/UpperRightArm.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/x43x/RightForearm.jpg
Every fad (and tattoos are a fad...really, they are.)
Is it a fad if it's been around much longer than we have written history? Wouldn't that make it the anti-fad? One would think a fad would be something like the feathered hair of the 70's, not something that has been a part of nearly every culture since the dawn of man.
Mo'Phat
04-17-06, 07:16 AM
Is it a fad if it's been around much longer than we have written history? Wouldn't that make it the anti-fad? One would think a fad would be something like the feathered hair of the 70's, not something that has been a part of nearly every culture since the dawn of man.
It is most definitely a fad if people from cultures which never used tattooing are now doing it as a means to impress people. I don't know what culture you're from, so tattooing may be an important social convention with your people. I know that some cultures have been tattooing for ages, just like some have been piercing, branding, painting, mortifying, manipulating, amputating, etc. for ages.
Let's just say that, for lack of a deep, spiritual argument to the contrary, it's totally faddish for Joe Blow American, whose ancestors were White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants (who never tattooed anything, ever), to walk into a parlor and get a freakin tribal armband tattoo. Am I right? Likewise, the midwest farmer's daughter-type, with no Asian roots whatsoever, goes and gets some Japanese characters on the small of her back. Here in So. California, I see all types, and I just have to roll my eyes. Most of these people (yes, I'm generalizing...sue me) don't really embrace tattoo culture...they got a wild hair, they wanted to rebel, they got drunk, they thought it would be 'neat', or they just brain farted. Either way, you can't honestly say that all tattoos that people get are a direct result of pre-historical cultural significance. Most are faddish.
Good point Mo', much along the lines of my earlier statement.
While I have three tattoos and my linage is mostly european with a touch of Native American none of them were done with the intention to "impress people"... I stopped doing things with intent to impress somewhere between the ages of 18-22.
My tat's all have deep personal meanings for me. I designed and planned them for an extended period... And I was sober on all occasions
Let's just say that, for lack of a deep, spiritual argument to the contrary, it's totally faddish for Joe Blow American, whose ancestors were White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants (who never tattooed anything, ever), to walk into a parlor and get a freakin tribal armband tattoo. Am I right?
Well, no, you're not right. First off, Celts and Germanic tribes did quite a bit of tattooing. I was able to find that with less than two seconds of searching. I'm fairly certain that i could look more deeply and find additional instances of Northern European tattooing as well.
And, i'd also put forth that tattooing today is done for the same exact reason it has been done for thousands of years. To show off. Whether your a warrior trying to scare your enemies or impress your brothers in arms, or a frat boy with a tribal bicep tat, they are there to do that same thing, scream 'look at me, i'm badass, i'm so hardcore i permanently changed my skin using ink and needle'.
Anyway, no point in getting into a pissing contest about the current cultural signifigance of tats. Let's just leave it that you think they're a fad, and i think there is a deep, perhaps unconcious, cultural drive behind them.
Mo'Phat
04-17-06, 10:06 AM
Well, no, you're not right. First off, Celts and Germanic tribes did quite a bit of tattooing. I was able to find that with less than two seconds of searching. I'm fairly certain that i could look more deeply and find additional instances of Northern European tattooing as well.
I stand corrected. I know there are Celtic and Germanic tattoos NOW, they're on the walls at the parlors. All I saw was Braveheart, and didn't see any tattoos. :p
I'm not against tattooing if it's for cultural, religious, or personal significance. Do up your entire body, if it makes you happy. Good on ya. Your tattoo of the Celtic knot with your family nickname has cultural and personal significance for you, and you're most likely the type of person who would NOT put something on their body that has zero significance. I don't see you as the type of person who wants to scream, "I'm a badass". You pretty much confirmed the point I was trying to make.
I really don't have an opinion one way or the other, if you like them fine, if you don't fine. I know that I have no desire to have one, that's just me though. I do know that if you get one and plan on working in a professional field later on try to get them where they can be covered. My wife and I have spent a couple thousand dollars now having a small road runner tattoo removed from her ankle that she got when she was around 18. At the time it was "cool" I guess. However later in life when she had to constantly go into court it wasn't nearly as "cool" having the roadrunner showing through her hose.
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