Fifty Plus (50+) - Apres-Ride Beer.

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trackhub
03-16-06, 06:18 PM
Don't know if we've had a beer thread for awhile, but here goes. :eek:
I love a pint of Guinness. I really do. It just seems to hit the spot after an afternoon or riding. I enjoy most dark ales as well. Tremont Ale is quite nice, albeit expensive. Sam adams had a very nicely done cream stout for some time, but I don't know if it's still on the market or not. Haven't seen it at my regular store for over a year.
Tight budget? Prefer a cold american lager? Give Pabst blue ribbon a try. Richer, creamier than budweiser. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Your preferences,,,,,
GrannyGear
03-16-06, 06:49 PM
Being in Olde California, Mexican beers....and not necessarily Corona.... Modelo, Dos Equis dark, even Carta Blanca. Then there are all those local boutique beers at $8.00 the six pack. Whoa. Burp.
Digital Gee
03-16-06, 07:00 PM
I'll take the Guiness, or Macheson's Stout (I probably spelled that wrong!). Any dark beer will do, really.
Dogbait
03-16-06, 07:12 PM
Dark beer for me too. My favorites are Pike Pole Porter from Fire station 5 brewing Co. and Black Butte Porter from the Deschutes Brewing Co. In cases of extreme emergency, I will drink a Dos Equis Amber.
Dogbait
Raketmensch
03-16-06, 07:26 PM
Another vote for Guinness, the nectar of the gods.
bikingbets
03-16-06, 07:28 PM
The best beer I've had is a Dutch lager called Grolsch. Huge bottles with swingtops!
hammerdocnomo
03-16-06, 07:32 PM
Huba Huba, Now you're talking.
You like it DARK may I suggest Cleveland, Ohio's finest Brewery, Great Lakes Brewing Company.
They have an outstanding Russian Imperial Stout, "Blackout Stout"
Black as Black can be. Nice carmel coloured thick head. Full bodied with coffee and chocolate tastes up front. Wonderful mouth feel at 9% ABV. This is the ultimate post-ride replacement drink.
While you are at it, try Stone Brewing Co's "Smoked Porter".
OMG what a treat!!! This is second to none. Wonderful pour with deep dark tones and an aroma of sweet malt and coffee. Full bodied yet lightly hopped. Makes it quite refreshing. Definently worth a try.
These are my recommendations. Enjoy the ride and the post ride glow. Cheers!!!
Guys,
Like bikes, there are few bad beers. There is a wide range that appeals to me. However, I enjoy small breweries whereever they are located. Tonight, we had a nice Iron City from Pittsburgh. My riding buddy just returned from a trip to Carnegie-Mellon Univ.
Being from Oklahoma, we often have a Choc beer (sorta slang for the type of beer brewed illegally by the Choctaw after contact with the Italian miners brought to S.E. Indian Territory to mine coal in the 1890's. Now brewed in Krebs, OK).
There's also a nice Pale Ale from the Boulevard Brewery from Kansas City.
When in S.F., I like an Anchor Steam sorta porter/ale (hard to describe this beer).
And of course, the official beer of the University of Texas School of Law: Ta-Da . . . Shiner Bock, brewed in Shiner, Texas, a town of about 1500 people settled in the 1840's by Czech immigrants with a love of old world beer.
There are hundreds more. Just remeber, IT IS IMPORTANT TO ALWAYS DRINK AT LEAST ONE BEER AT THE END OF EVERY RIDE.
Tyson
Huba Huba, Now you're talking.
You like it DARK may I suggest Cleveland, Ohio's finest Brewery, Great Lakes Brewing Company.
They have an outstanding Russian Imperial Stout, "Blackout Stout"
Black as Black can be. Nice carmel coloured thick head. Full bodied with coffee and chocolate tastes up front. Wonderful mouth feel at 9% ABV. This is the ultimate post-ride replacement drink.
While you are at it, try Stone Brewing Co's "Smoked Porter".
OMG what a treat!!! This is second to none. Wonderful pour with deep dark tones and an aroma of sweet malt and coffee. Full bodied yet lightly hopped. Makes it quite refreshing. Definently worth a try.
These are my recommendations. Enjoy the ride and the post ride glow. Cheers!!!
I've tried Great Lakes "Elliot Ness" and enjoyed it. If their others are that good I can't wait to give 'em a try.
I've been drinking a lot of Beck's beers latley...ummmmm.
hammerdocnomo
03-16-06, 09:14 PM
I've tried Great Lakes "Elliot Ness" and enjoyed it. If their others are that good I can't wait to give 'em a try.
I've been drinking a lot of Beck's beers latley...ummmmm.
Yes Sirree, "The beer in hand is the best in the land"
The Great Lakes "Elliot Ness" is a fine example of an American Stout. Their other beers include,
"Burning River Pale Ale", "Dortmunder Gold", "Holy Moses" (Witbier), "MoonDog Ale"(ESB)
"Edmund Fitzgerald Porter" Good God the list goes on and on and on.........
Come to Cleveland and go to their Brew Pub and try the whole lot..
Cheers
hammerdocnomo
03-16-06, 09:18 PM
I've tried Great Lakes "Elliot Ness" and enjoyed it. If their others are that good I can't wait to give 'em a try.
I've been drinking a lot of Beck's beers latley...ummmmm.
Sorry Lou didn't notice you're a northern buckeye.
I'll meet you there after the St Paddy's Day Parade.
RockyMtnMerlin
03-16-06, 09:24 PM
If you want a REALLY GOOD beer, I urge you to try Aventinus Wiezen Eisbock from Bavaria. Very dark, on the sweet side. 12.5% alcohol. $4.25 for a 11.5 oz bottle at the liquor store. MMMMMMMM :D If you like a lighter Hefe Weizen, see if you can get your hands on an Austrian Brew from Kalthausen Brewery - Edelweiss (not the Germany one). MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :D :D By the way the Germans drink a half beer half lemonade sort of concoction called a Radler when they stop DURING a ride (German verb for pedaling is radfarhen). Don't really like it that much (similar to an Australian shandie). But, having lived in Munich for two years I can tell you that just the beer tasting alone is worth a trip (BTW avoid Oktoberfest unles you are into drunk fests). Head out to Andechs monastery for a good brew or two. To top it all off, the Germans love cyclists and the summer time riding around Munich is unsurpassed!!
hammerdocnomo
03-16-06, 09:26 PM
Guys,
Like bikes, there are few bad beers. There is a wide range that appeals to me. However, I enjoy small breweries whereever they are located. Tonight, we had a nice Iron City from Pittsburgh. My riding buddy just returned from a trip to Carnegie-Mellon Univ.
Being from Oklahoma, we often have a Choc beer (sorta slang for the type of beer brewed illegally by the Choctaw after contact with the Italian miners brought to S.E. Indian Territory to mine coal in the 1890's. Now brewed in Krebs, OK).
There's also a nice Pale Ale from the Boulevard Brewery from Kansas City.
When in S.F., I like an Anchor Steam sorta porter/ale (hard to describe this beer).
And of course, the official beer of the University of Texas School of Law: Ta-Da . . . Shiner Bock, brewed in Shiner, Texas, a town of about 1500 people settled in the 1840's by Czech immigrants with a love of old world beer.
There are hundreds more. Just remeber, IT IS IMPORTANT TO ALWAYS DRINK AT LEAST ONE BEER AT THE END OF EVERY RIDE.
Tyson
Here, Here, Iron Mike Tyson. The caveat is important, "at least one"!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll drink to that!
By the By, The corned beef brisket is simmering in a combo of Shiner Bock and Ephemere Ale ( it is a seasonal ale brewed with apples, coriander,and curacao by Unibroue). We'll see how the kids like it tomorrow.
Got to Go.
Sorry Lou didn't notice you're a northern buckeye.
I'll meet you there after the St Paddy's Day Parade.
I was up there for a big St. Paddy's day party at Gallagher's Steak House on Euclid Ave. many years ago.
I've never been quite the same since. Never had a chance to thank 'em either.
:beer:
stapfam
03-17-06, 12:38 AM
I'll take the Guiness, or Macheson's Stout (I probably spelled that wrong!). Any dark beer will do, really.
Mackesons and not easy to find over here. Never have understood the fascination of beer but one I do like is called Spitfire. Brewed in Kent where a lot of the WWII spitfire sqadrons were staqtioned. Now if you are just talking alcohol- a good bottle of bordeaux takes some beating but 25 year old cognac is nectar.
cyclintom
03-17-06, 07:41 AM
You guys are embarassing. There's only ONE beer for cyclists - Sierra Nevada. Who else supports a professional cycling team?
When you can't get Sierra Nevada (which by the way IS one of the best beers I've ever had) there's always Fat Tire Ale.
Blackberry
03-17-06, 08:38 AM
Will Rogers never met a man he didn't like. I feel the same way about beer. I realize this makes me a lager lout. Oh well.
no motor?
03-17-06, 11:55 AM
I noticed a craving for beer (and a nap) after I pedal, that I thought was due to the carbs. I prefer Becks dark, but have been working on the Bass ale lately. I doubt I'd find a bad beer after a good workout though.
linux_author
03-17-06, 11:59 AM
http://trayman.net/Images/OldGuys/pabst.jpg
jazzy_cyclist
03-17-06, 12:08 PM
Will Rogers never met a man he didn't like. I feel the same way about beer.
Agreed. I used to home-brew quite a bit, and my water type favored the dark beers, which was what I liked anyway (except Pilsner Urquel and Rolling Rock)!
When I was in the Caribbean on vacations, I found a beverage called "Malta". It's basically sweet wort -- beer before being fermented, and with no hops. It's thick, sweet, and an unbelieveable number of carbs (like 60g in a bottle, IIRC). I consider it the ultimately recovery drink. You can often find it in the "ethnic" sections at supermarkets.
stapfam
03-17-06, 12:32 PM
Agreed. I used to home-brew quite a bit, and my water type favored the dark beers, which was what I liked anyway (except Pilsner Urquel and Rolling Rock)!
One of my cycling buddies used to brew his own beer. I do not like beer that much, but just to be sociable, after a ride 3 of us finished up sampling his home brew. The others had a full pint but I only had a half. That stuff was beautiful. and asked for my other half. Then we had another pint each and after about half an hour, I tried to stand up and quickly sat down again. Another 30 minutes passed and ventured on to the bike for the 1 mile ride home. I was still feeling the effects and so were the others but they had not stopped at two pints.
Unfortunately he had a heart attack out on a ride and died. The Biking group decided that we would ride to his funeral and ride back. It seemed only fitting that of the 200 or so people there, some of us saw him off in the style he would have wanted. We cycled back to the house on a magnificent day and met the others at the house. There were 7 of us that rode to his funeral, and back at the Wake, there were his last 14 bottles of beer in the chiller, reserved for the riders. A fitting tribute to not only a great friend, to a "Master" home brewer as the only ones allowed the Beer were those that saw him off in style. You should have the look on the other males that knew what the beer was like.
Unfortunately the recipe died with him. but his father has promised to bring me a crate of his beer this year, so heres to a sozzled summer.
ken cummings
03-17-06, 01:51 PM
Agreed. I used to home-brew quite a bit, and my water type favored the dark beers, which was what I liked anyway (except Pilsner Urquel and Rolling Rock)!
When I was in the Caribbean on vacations, I found a beverage called "Malta". It's basically sweet wort -- beer before being fermented, and with no hops. It's thick, sweet, and an unbelieveable number of carbs (like 60g in a bottle, IIRC). I consider it the ultimately recovery drink. You can often find it in the "ethnic" sections at supermarkets.
Your comment about Malta leads to something I have been doing for almost twenty years. Instead of buying expensive cold-soluble malto-dextrin at a few bike shops or a health food store I get 5 lb bags of malt sugar at a home-brew shop and make my own energy drinks.
Another vote for Guiness, especially today. IMHO Guiness is not only a beer but it's also a medicinal beverage that's good for what "ales" you...at least that's my spin. My in-laws from the UK inform me that it was prescribed to patients in the hospital, pending their ailment. Stapfam - any truth to this legend or are they pulling my leg?
Cheers!
stapfam
03-17-06, 02:56 PM
Another vote for Guiness, especially today. IMHO Guiness is not only a beer but it's also a medicinal beverage that's good for what "ales" you...at least that's my spin. My in-laws from the UK inform me that it was prescribed to patients in the hospital, pending their ailment. Stapfam - any truth to this legend or are they pulling my leg?
Cheers!
Don't think it is as common today, but a glass of guinness was the recommendation for any "Elderly" patients in hospital. Don't think it was prescribed but it was highly recommended and it was guinness that was recommended. In fact the recommendation for heart problems, even now, is a glass of beer a day or a glass of red wine. If thats the case with the red wine- I must be one of the healthiest around.
On the Guinness- 3 types. Canned- bottled and draught. Cans do not taste the same- bottled is better but draught is almost as good as the genuine stuff they serve in Ireland.
Old Hammer Boy
03-17-06, 05:57 PM
For me, without a doubt, the best beer I have ever tasted is the national beer of the Czech Republic, Ugell. Over here it's pretty bad, but over there, beyond belief. ' Puts German beers to shame. They even have it in a 10% variety. I took a (religious pilgrimage) to Pilsn, the home of lagered beers, out of respect to this historically significant place. On top of everything else, a 750 ml glass of this nectar was only about $.75 USD. If I lived over there I would be sooooooooo fat! But what a way to go...
trackhub
03-17-06, 06:38 PM
If you want a REALLY GOOD beer, I urge you to try Aventinus Wiezen Eisbock from Bavaria. Very dark, on the sweet side. 12.5% alcohol.,,,,, Holy Moly!! :eek: That is one potent beer. I have a copy of Michael Jackon's beer guide around here somewhere. (uh, that's the old British beer author, not that nutjob performer.) I'll bet that one is listed.
Those of us in the Boston area are blessed with a pretty decent selection of beers at most package stores. In the city of Waltham, there is the "Watch city Brewery". The link: http://www.watchcitybrew.com/brews.shtml.
I've tried their Moody St. Stout, and Titan Ale. Umm, good! If you go though, you'll have to put up with rather snooty yuppies, all trying to impress each other. The food is good, but pricey. No real good place to lock up either, unless you want to chance the bike rack, toward the back of the Embassy movie theater. (very risky, I think.)
I really like the canned Guinness, with the nitrogen widget. At 14.9 ounces, it's not a full pint, but it will do. Yes, it does come darn close to what you order in a pub. Haven't tried the bottled draught version. What size are the bottles? I have been told time and time again that what is served in the old country is thicker, and even richer, if you can imagine such a thing. I will have to take a trip there and see for myself.
In Harvard Square, there used to be a restaurant called "The Wurst House". It was there for a long time, about 80 years. Good food, and a lengthy beer list. The beer list was shaped like a stein. The interior decor was old woodwork, and beer steins and mugs from all over the world were all over the place. One Beer stein was massive, about five feet tall. Sorry to say that the Wurst House fell victim to the times. The quality of food and service declined the last few years, and the real estate pressure became too great. They closed about five years ago. I don't even want to say what occupies that space now. It's horrible, just horrible.
Lion Steve
03-17-06, 07:09 PM
Don't know if we've had a beer thread for awhile, but here goes. :eek:
I love a pint of Guinness. I really do. It just seems to hit the spot after an afternoon or riding. I enjoy most dark ales as well. Tremont Ale is quite nice, albeit expensive. Sam adams had a very nicely done cream stout for some time, but I don't know if it's still on the market or not. Haven't seen it at my regular store for over a year.
Tight budget? Prefer a cold american lager? Give Pabst blue ribbon a try. Richer, creamier than budweiser. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Your preferences,,,,,
You must be referring to the Sam Adams Cream Stout. They still sell it here in SW Ohio.
Does anyone remember Cincy Creme? Man, I used to love that stuff, then they quit making it.
Maybe I didn't drink enough. I tried, honest I did.
Digital Gee
03-17-06, 07:56 PM
I had too much green beer for St. Patrick's Day. Consider my new avatar my contribution to the 50+ makeover. <burping emoticon>
RockyMtnMerlin
03-17-06, 08:24 PM
For me, without a doubt, the best beer I have ever tasted is the national beer of the Czech Republic, Ugell. Over here it's pretty bad, but over there, beyond belief. ' Puts German beers to shame. They even have it in a 10% variety. I took a (religious pilgrimage) to Pilsn, the home of lagered beers, out of respect to this historically significant place. On top of everything else, a 750 ml glass of this nectar was only about $.75 USD. If I lived over there I would be sooooooooo fat! But what a way to go...
Actually I think you mean Pilsner Urquell. It is better over there. But a better Czech beer IMO is Budvar - yep the same guys who tried to sue Budweiser for stealing thier name!! When I lived in Munich I actually had to my door beer delivery. Just like the milkman used to do here. You'd just leave a note with the correct amount of money for the beerman and like magic the empties would be picked up and new great tasting beer would appear :D :D :D
Raketmensch
03-17-06, 09:34 PM
Once again, I draw my inspiration from the 50+ forum. Just finished a nasty 2x20 workout on my trainer, and now savoring a Sam Adams cherry wheat. Nicely hits the spot.
Digital Gee
03-17-06, 09:47 PM
Hey, I just realized!
This thread is the perfect answer to a question I posed a while back...
How did you wean yourself off soda? (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=176774)
Thank you, thank you!
:beer:
Blackberry
03-18-06, 05:58 AM
Hey, I just realized!
This thread is the perfect answer to a question I posed a while back...
How did you wean yourself off soda? (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=176774)
Thank you, thank you!
:beer:
:roflmao: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :roflmao:
Hey, I just realized!
This thread is the perfect answer to a question I posed a while back...
How did you wean yourself off soda? (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=176774)
Thank you, thank you!
:beer:
Oh, man.... PLEASE be careful with that. I used to do beer tastings professionally, for resturants that wanted to promote their expanding beer menu. So, I thought I was one of the lucky ones. I got paid to drink some of the best beers in the world. Well, 30 pounds later I realized this was not a good thing!
.
RockyMtMerlin
When visiting my brother in Koln (where he played pro basketball) the team went to bars where you ordered several "Buds" when you first came in. The bartenders poured them in iced steins right then, but because of the ample foam, they set them aside in a special cooler (like the refrigerated pie display racks in "cafe's"). They would top them off about 10 minutes later. In the meantime you were supposed to drink the local "Kolsch" style bier.
All in all a nice deal. I love that Budvar, served in the German way or the more traditional way as in Praha.
Wish I had one now.
Tyson
Digital Gee
03-18-06, 12:40 PM
Oh, man.... PLEASE be careful with that. I used to do beer tastings professionally, for resturants that wanted to promote their expanding beer menu. So, I thought I was one of the lucky ones. I got paid to drink some of the best beers in the world. Well, 30 pounds later I realized this was not a good thing!
.
Oh, no worries. I'm actually not much of a beer drinker. I like a tall cold one on a hot summer day, but that's about it. But thanks for the warning! (And what a job to have!!!)
RockyMtnMerlin
03-18-06, 01:05 PM
RockyMtMerlin
When visiting my brother in Koln (where he played pro basketball) the team went to bars where you ordered several "Buds" when you first came in. The bartenders poured them in iced steins right then, but because of the ample foam, they set them aside in a special cooler (like the refrigerated pie display racks in "cafe's"). They would top them off about 10 minutes later. In the meantime you were supposed to drink the local "Kolsch" style bier.
All in all a nice deal. I love that Budvar, served in the German way or the more traditional way as in Praha.
Wish I had one now.
Tyson
Me too!!!!!!!!
trackhub
03-18-06, 01:20 PM
Hey, I just realized!
This thread is the perfect answer to a question I posed a while back...
How did you wean yourself off soda? (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=176774)
Thank you, thank you!
:beer:
Somehow, I missed that thread. I might have two cokes within a year. Like most americans, I drank more of it as a teenager. Back then, the bottles were still ten ounces though. It's a little disturbing to see so many overweight teens going along, drinking from those enormous coke bottles. Strong kidneys, I guess. Unlike sugary sodas, Beer does not cause tooth decay. I seem to remember reading something in Bicycling magazine about soft drinks such as coke being linked to loss in bone density over time. So,,, another point for beer, and its all natural ingredients.
Yes, Sam Adams Cream Stout is still around. It's on the company website. They have changed the label and packaging though. Marketing decisions, I guess.
Coyote!
03-18-06, 01:49 PM
TysonB spake. . .
>>> ALWAYS DRINK AT LEAST ONE BEER AT THE END OF EVERY RIDE.
Damn. Now I have to modify "Coyote's Four Rules of Bicycling". Two, three. . .
Also, +1 for the Guinness.
stapfam
03-18-06, 02:15 PM
Went to a belgian restaurant last week, and I was driving so no alcohol for me, except for a few tasters of the beer the rest were drinking. Now if you want a wide variety of good tasting beers- then you have to try these Belgian beers. Took me back 30 years when I lived in France, and even the French rated Belgian.
http://www.belgianbeers.co.uk/cat15_1.htm
I'm hung up on Leinenkugels, favorite is Leinenkugels Creamy Dark and their Leinenkugils Big Butt which is also a dark beer. When their not around any beer will do.
RockyMtnMerlin
03-18-06, 02:43 PM
Went to a belgian restaurant last week, and I was driving so no alcohol for me, except for a few tasters of the beer the rest were drinking. Now if you want a wide variety of good tasting beers- then you have to try these Belgian beers. Took me back 30 years when I lived in France, and even the French rated Belgian.
http://www.belgianbeers.co.uk/cat15_1.htm
Agree, some day I'm going to do a beer tasting trip to Belgium. See what those Trappist monks have to offer!
hammerdocnomo
03-18-06, 03:41 PM
Agree, some day I'm going to do a beer tasting trip to Belgium. See what those Trappist monks have to offer!
Hey Rock,
Bike and Beers in Belgium??????????? I'm in. While we wait for you to arrange this tour, try "Rare Voss" a Belgian style beer brewed in Cooperstowm, NY at the Ommegang Brewery. Quite good and under $5 a 750ml champagne corked bottle.
RockyMtnMerlin
03-18-06, 03:56 PM
Hey Rock,
Bike and Beers in Belgium??????????? I'm in. While we wait for you to arrange this tour, try "Rare Voss" a Belgian style beer brewed in Cooperstowm, NY at the Ommegang Brewery. Quite good and under $5 a 750ml champagne corked bottle.
There is a great beer store in Ft Cllins Colorado. I'll ask them if they can get some Rare Voss! Next trip is to Oregon, so Beligium will have to wait for a while. There is also a great bear bar in the Pearl District in Portland. They must have at least 100 beers on tap. Can't remember the name right now, but it is new with a very long bar and a connected restaruant.
Blackberry
03-18-06, 04:50 PM
I'm hung up on Leinenkugels, favorite is Leinenkugels Creamy Dark and their Leinenkugils Big Butt which is also a dark beer. When their not around any beer will do.
I used to go to Stevens Point, WI for a conference every year. I became very good friends with the entire Leinenkugal family.
hammerdocnomo
03-18-06, 05:20 PM
There is a great beer store in Ft Cllins Colorado. I'll ask them if they can get some Rare Voss! Next trip is to Oregon, so Beligium will have to wait for a while. There is also a great bear bar in the Pearl District in Portland. They must have at least 100 beers on tap. Can't remember the name right now, but it is new with a very long bar and a connected restaruant.
I'll wait to hear from you on the Belgium Bike and Beers Trip. Here's the link www.ommegang.com
The Hennipin Ale is excellent as well.
Have a great time in Portland. I've been once decades ago without any recollection of that poor cousin of Seattle.
RockyMtnMerlin
03-18-06, 06:11 PM
I'll wait to hear from you on the Belgium Bike and Beers Trip. Here's the link www.ommegang.com
The Hennipin Ale is excellent as well.
Have a great time in Portland. I've been once decades ago without any recollection of that poor cousin of Seattle.
Thanks: I think I just might order directly from them! Edit -OOPS they only ship to NY :mad:
Dogbait
03-18-06, 07:04 PM
......... Next trip is to Oregon, so Beligium will have to wait for a while. There is also a great bear bar in the Pearl District in Portland. They must have at least 100 beers on tap. Can't remember the name right now, but it is new with a very long bar and a connected restaruant.
This LIST (http://www.nwbrewpage.com/orbpubs.html) will help you find a beer in Oregon.
Dogbait
Prosody
03-18-06, 11:22 PM
A few favorites:
Red Stripe
Harp
Anchor Steam
Anchor Porter (though I haven't seen it in the midwest for awhile)
Lion Steve
03-19-06, 06:02 AM
Does anyone remember Cincy Creme? Man, I used to love that stuff, then they quit making it.
Maybe I didn't drink enough. I tried, honest I did.
I don't remember Cincy Creme, but I used to drink "Little King Creme Ale" which was a Cincinnati brew. Same brew?
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