Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - This is going to get expensive

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HereNT
03-18-06, 01:50 PM
I'm about to be heading over to one LBS to drop off some campy hubs and the original rims that came with my Bianchi. Tubular. The start of trying to get everything on her Italian. New tires for the conversion there too, then off to another shop to have the rear respaced down to 120mm and a new BB for the chainline...

This will leave me with a set of DA wheels that are in search of a Japanese frame that also has the NJS stamp. In the 57-60cm range.

Just thought I'd share...


skelly
03-18-06, 02:03 PM
Money, like time, is meant to be spent.

andrew young
03-18-06, 02:27 PM
what do you plan on doing with those DA wheels?


Erich Zann
03-18-06, 02:39 PM
Good luck finding a Keirin frame that size. You might have to get one custom built. If that's what you want to do, I say go with Nagasawa.

asterisk
03-18-06, 02:49 PM
just remember that you can have just as much fun and dependibility from a $100 conversion on a used surly hub.

Erich Zann
03-18-06, 03:12 PM
Except that it sucks.

asterisk
03-18-06, 03:37 PM
oh, sorry. i must be mistaken.

roadfix
03-18-06, 03:41 PM
ENO eccentric hub, 135mm
I just ordered one
:D

baxtefer
03-18-06, 03:53 PM
i thought you were already having financial problems?

asterisk
03-18-06, 03:57 PM
i belibe we used to call this POS. part aquisition syndrome.

everyone with POS has financial problems; no matter how much money they make/are given, especially if you allow your tastes to fall to njs/italian styles.

edit: yes. PAS, not POS.

Plow Boy
03-18-06, 04:48 PM
Don't you have a knobbie rig that needs to be fixed? Rode mine today, good times.

evanyc
03-18-06, 04:58 PM
i belibe we used to call this POS. part aquisition syndrome.

everyone with POS has financial problems; no matter how much money they make/are given, especially if you allow your tastes to fall to njs/italian styles.

PAS i do believe. and i think i got it! havent been employed since august yet i've purchased two frames (keirin and custom built) and done some expensive builds since then. as an undergrad and grad student the first time i didn't feel that i had a real student experience, not having amassed loads of debt, so i'm trying to make up for it this time around. just waiting on the $7,000 loan check!

sbeatonNJ
03-18-06, 05:16 PM
Its amazing how one thing leads to the next when it comes to bikes. I just got a Fuji Track on Thursday after selling my conversion. I decided to keep the stock cranks and chain (sold all the other fuji parts on my conversion and kept my old parts, DA, Nitto, etc.) and love the feel of the 1/8 chain as my other one was always loose. Well after two days of riding I decided to breakdown and order some Sugino 75's, a 45t chainring from FSA, two new DA cogs in 1/8 14 and 16 one for each side of the hub. I was planning on getting the Sugino set up as a graduation gift to myself but I couldnt wait. My friend tried to talk me into just getting the stuff for the new wheelset I want to build now but I declined and will make that a graduation gift. Now if I can just get a Chris King Headset and a Thomson post I'll be happy. Thank goodness I work at a bikeshop.

HereNT
03-18-06, 07:00 PM
Financial problems were last paycheck. Now the IRS and I are great buddies, and my student loan just got a forbearance. So I had a little money to spend :D

Though it ended up being more than I thought, I still made out good. The wheels are going to be $1 per spoke plus $30 labor per wheel. The wrenches at the second shop were floored when they heard that, so it must be a good deal, even if the shop is out of my way...

The knobby rig is the one that I was respacing, and it's already fixed. And now it's got a fancy sealed BB and a better chainline. So now I can actually use it as a fix/fix. Found out that my sidewall was disintigrating when I was putting the wheel back on and had to buy a new rear wheel, too. A Bontrager Race Lite Hard Case 700x32. Feels really solid. I need to get a matching front... New track nuts, and two big ass blinkies to put on my bag...

PAS is hard to resist when you've been mostly broke for two weeks then get paid and have all these parts that need to come together...

Plow Boy
03-18-06, 07:06 PM
The knobby rig is the one that I was respacing, and it's already fixed. And now it's got a fancy sealed BB and a better chainline. So now I can actually use it as a fix/fix. Found out that my sidewall was disintigrating when I was putting the wheel back on and had to buy a new rear wheel, too. A Bontrager Race Lite Hard Case 700x32. Feels really solid. I need to get a matching front... New track nuts, and two big ass blinkies to put on my bag...

Good to here, now about those off road adventures......

evanyc
03-18-06, 07:18 PM
"The wheels are going to be $1 per spoke plus $30 labor per wheel. The wrenches at the second shop were floored when they heard that, so it must be a good deal, even if the shop is out of my way..."

the wheels i dropped off today are gonna be .25 a spoke and $25 per wheel! go bike works!

HereNT
03-18-06, 07:31 PM
"The wheels are going to be $1 per spoke plus $30 labor per wheel. The wrenches at the second shop were floored when they heard that, so it must be a good deal, even if the shop is out of my way..."

the wheels i dropped off today are gonna be .25 a spoke and $25 per wheel! go bike works!

Damn, you got me on that one. I'm hoping I get better quality spokes...

Whatever it ends up being, I wanted to use that shop just because it just opened. Dude was in a PHD program, kind of put that on hold to work in a shop last summer. Ended up opening his own a couple of weeks ago. All about the commuters, and he's the Rivendell dealer in town now. There's a lot tied up in inventory, but not much that I need. So dropping off a set of wheels and hubs and saying 'build these up' is something I can do to help keep him in business that's mostly profit...

Gotta help the little guy, you know?

12XU
03-18-06, 09:35 PM
I have to hold off on buying anything large until I pay off my Mercian frame ($1,050), Trek 5200 ($1,400), and a bike tour ($370).

colinm
03-19-06, 05:05 AM
Nashbar has Vitt tubulars on sale for $15 right now.

http://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?category=121&subcategory=1193&storetype=estore&estoreid=560&init=y&pagename=

Don't forget your coupon.


And you did see that Miyata NJS on Eplay in 57c, yes?

HereNT
03-19-06, 08:29 AM
Why did you show me that? WHY?!?!

My brother has like 6 Miyatas, all conversions. They're all sick. He doesn't have a track...

This was supposed to be expensive over the course of the summer, not expensive NOW.

:mad:

Pipebomb
03-19-06, 01:04 PM
Its amazing how one thing leads to the next when it comes to bikes. I just got a Fuji Track on Thursday after selling my conversion. I decided to keep the stock cranks and chain (sold all the other fuji parts on my conversion and kept my old parts, DA, Nitto, etc.) and love the feel of the 1/8 chain as my other one was always loose. Well after two days of riding I decided to breakdown and order some Sugino 75's, a 45t chainring from FSA, two new DA cogs in 1/8 14 and 16 one for each side of the hub. I was planning on getting the Sugino set up as a graduation gift to myself but I couldnt wait. My friend tried to talk me into just getting the stuff for the new wheelset I want to build now but I declined and will make that a graduation gift. Now if I can just get a Chris King Headset and a Thomson post I'll be happy. Thank goodness I work at a bikeshop.


Now all you need to replace is that sh!ty Fuji frame!

sbeatonNJ
03-19-06, 02:51 PM
Now all you need to replace is that sh!ty Fuji frame!

Being that by selling my conversion for what the whole fuji track cost me so I basically paid nothing for the frame and fork Im pretty happy with it. The Fuji frame is exactly what I needed and so far (for the 75 miles Ive put on it since Thursday afternoon) it has proven to be a nice frame for the money.

naisme
03-19-06, 10:34 PM
HereNT I echo this expensive syndrom. I look at my GTB and think it needs a new crank, but it can't just be any crank I want Sugoni 75s, but at 249.00, well... I looked at FSA at 239.00. That's just the crank, not BB, not new wheels, which I am going to build myself, I hope to do a twisted wheelset, maybe not for the GTB, but for something. I have also been thinking about a couple frames that are at One to One, a Bianchi, and a Giadana, that Andrew is also looking at. That'd turn his crank if I got it. But that's a frame, and I'll need to build wheels, and get cranks...

I was laying in the street looking at my tacoed front wheel this evening thinking, "you know, I just don't want to do this any more. I want to buy a bike that is all together, I don't want to play Doc Frankenstien any more (smiling at my new Bianchi cromo fork on the Schwinn World)."

Conversions are fun, a great track frame is even more fun, I am sure a great track frame with great cranks, BB, HS, pedals, hubs, rims, tires, bar, stem, fork, is even better. When is it Maxed out?

HereNT
03-20-06, 10:11 AM
Bleah. Just checked the bank account, and I'm already down to around $300 for the next couple of weeks. Unless Jim will let me pick up those wheels on my next payday. Oops. Being dead poor for a couple of weeks and then having money makes impulse buying a little difficult to control...

But I have nice new lights and bar tape and gloves...

colinm
03-20-06, 11:06 AM
Truing = $15 per wheel. Building one is easy, handing it over for final truing gives peace of mind.

I have Campy Records, sourced Campy rims and did the calculations for spoke length here -


http://www.damonrinard.com/spocalc.xls

Bought the spokes at Nashbar, assembled at home in an hour, and Erik's trued them up. Done for $31 in labor.

As usual, labor = $. I understand keeping the little guy in business, but keeping money in MY pocket comes first. I tend to piss away most of my money too.

HereNT
03-20-06, 11:21 AM
I could have gone that route and taken them into my usual shop and paid maybe $5 per wheel for truing. But that wasn't what I wanted to do.

Terror_in_pink
03-20-06, 05:10 PM
too bad my frame is too small for you. I'm over the keirin styles.

HereNT
03-20-06, 05:17 PM
Start rocking a recumbent trike!

jim-bob
03-20-06, 05:23 PM
Start rocking a recumbent trike!

No way, it's hybrid time.

Terror_in_pink
03-20-06, 05:35 PM
booya.

recumbent with one of those double butt cheek saddles that don't have a nose. I will weld a second one to it so i can go touring on a sofa with some company.

HereNT
03-20-06, 05:48 PM
If you're going that far, why not just start with a sofa and add a drivetrain?

Kiecker
03-20-06, 07:27 PM
booya.

recumbent with one of those double butt cheek saddles that don't have a nose. I will weld a second one to it so i can go touring on a sofa with some company.

Talk to SuperRookie. He knows all about recumbents!

naisme
03-22-06, 12:42 AM
Here's my new money sucker.

naisme
03-22-06, 12:46 AM
Oh and I went ahead and got Sugino cranks for the GTB, not the 75s, just a simple set. Now I need a wheel set, and bearings for four Surly hubs.

HereNT
03-22-06, 01:39 AM
When I bought my money sucker, I'd known that the guy had it for about 6 months. I thought it was one that looked like yours - all celeste. Went to his house to pick up a black Miyata frame that ended up being too small, then went into the other room to look for some parts for my brother. There she was...

Looks like a nice bike. Have fun with her.

Erich Zann
03-22-06, 02:17 PM
Here's my new money sucker.

Do you always ride with the saddle angle sloped forward like that? I would think that it would cause you to develop pain in your hands and shoulders.

naisme
03-23-06, 12:32 PM
No, I just put the saddle on, I don't even have pedals yet to dial the saddle in.
Did you know that Shimano no longer makes Dura Ace track hubs? Evidiently there's not a big enough market to continue manufacturing. My LBS suggested Miche.

HereNT
03-23-06, 12:54 PM
I think they just stopped with the high flange, but I could be wrong.

I've got a nice set of the low flange ones...

spud
03-23-06, 01:36 PM
the 7600 HF are still listed on shimano's site.

naisme
03-24-06, 01:44 PM
Well, we were going through the Quality catalogue, and they didn't have any, no low flange, not high. If I looked in this town I could find a set I'm sure.
But, that's not what I was going to post. I saw a really expensive track frame, a Carbon fiber BMC OMFG what a ride. The wheels came in at 300 a piece, all white and speedplay pedals, Dura Ace cranks, just a sweet ride.

andrew young
03-25-06, 12:02 AM
Allright Tucker, you've got enough sweet rides, let someone else have fun, like me.
Not like I would buy it or could afford it anyway............. Just sayin'.