Classic & Vintage - Peugeot ID help....please.

Hi there...I'm fairly new to Bike Forums and would like to enlist the help of all those who know about Peugeots. I have attempted many times to find out the model of my frame by searching the web and examining old photos from poorly scanned catalogs, and I have a guess, but I am not sure. Here is what I know:

* I bought the frame off eBay several years ago...the owner did not know what it was. It came with a steel cottered crank on it.

* It has Nervex luggs.

* The chain stays do not appear to be chromed.

* Has a braze-on on the right side only, of the down tube for a shifter...but cable braze-ons on the down tube right above the BB on both right and left sides.

* Derailleur hanger does not appear to be the "hook" type (although I've not seen one so I cannot be sure.) It is drilled, but not tapped...and recessed on one side.

* Had terrible new paint over the original but I scraped some away and discovered the original paint was white with the familiar black and white checkered flag on the seat tube...and if I remember right the words "tube especial" or something to that effect.

* Serial number is stamped in the bb shell and reads 982951

* There are two braze-ons on the right chain stay. The front one is a rather plain looking cable stop made of just a flat piece of metal; the rear on is fancier with a brass screw type adjuster threaded into it.

* The fork is chrome on the lowers and appears to have rather plain looking luggs.

* It has un-tapped fender or rack mounts on the rear drop-outs, which are Simplex.

I guess that's it aside from a photo. From what I can gather it is possibly a PA10...(I have ruled out UO8 due to the non hook type derailleur hanger, and best guess is a sixties date of manufacture.) it is heavy feeling and I'm guessing the tubes are nothing fancy. I bought it because I loved the luggs and have since learned a ton about old bikes and would definitely not purchase it today...but oh well. I was lucky enough to find a NOS NIB Campy Gran Sport french thread bottom bracket...which is still in the box today. Maybe someday I build it up.

Thanks in advance for any information.

I cannot tell you the model Peugeot but I concur that it is an early 1960's model due to the fact that that it has the right hand shifter braze-on, Nervex lugs, etc. It is a good solid bike, 100% French made with most likely 100% French threaded everything.

okay...thanks for the help.

I want a picture... the one side braze on was common on some seventies UO models, and likely the PA as well. The serial number clearly suggests sixties, but I've seen them off before, so I don't count on it. The braze ons and location all suggest UO or PA, but I have never seen a PA in the flesh (seen tons of UO models). The "tube especial" (tube special allegre Peugeot) refers to the tubesets used on UOs.

I think your ID is likely correct, but still would like to see pix.

I will try to get some photos up...although I'm a bit embarrassed of what I've let happen. As I mentioned earlier I removed the paint...well I never got around to repainting it and it's a bit rusty (okay, a lot rusty.) Oh well it's mostly surface rust that happened in one night. Thanks for your info.