Touring - Tubus racks and disc brakes - yes, another disc brake with rack query

Dear all,

I have done a search here for information. I also Googled, as well as scoured the Internet but cannot find a satisfactory answer to my query. Would appreciate any information or tips.

I have a cross frame with rack eyelets on the stays but because of the disc brake mount at the dropouts, I am looking at alternative mounting ways.

So far, research has come up with Old Man Mountain racks, but because I am in Europe, I am looking at the Tubus instead because of shipping costs. Nitto also looks awesome, but for the same reason as the OMM, it is out of the question.

The Tubus site shows a quick release attachment system for their Logo and Cosmos rear racks. Will this work with all disc brakes? Solve my needs? Does anyone have any closeup pictures?

My disc brakes are AVid BB7. Many thanks!!

You could make something similar to the QR mounting kit from Tubus that attaches to the eyelets instead. I did this with some strips of steel that I bought from a DIY shop when I needed to set my rack a bit further back so my panniers didn't interefere with the shifter clickbox for my hub gear. The bits of steel can be bolted through both the attachment and the mudgaurd eyes in the Tubus rack to give a good firm attachment.

OMM racks are available in the UK so shipping to Europe shouldn't be too expensive if you decide to go with one.

Of course the other option is to ditch the rear disc (which you barely need anyway) and replace with a v-brake. I have an Avid BB7 up front where most of the braking is done and a v-brake at the back.

I spread out the legs on my Cosmos with spacers to fit over my disc calipers.

Topeak makes racks for bikes with disc brakes, installed on my bike last night. Here is a shot of how it looks near the brakes. Plenty of clearance and the bolt is long enough that fender mounts will fit also.

i suggest you look at

http://www.axiomgear.com/racks_suspension/odyssee_rear_suspension.php

sells for ~30 USD. looks like it'll be out of the way of the bb7. mounts to skewer - may be a slight fitting problem there since some skewer dont have much extra length. i dont think it comes with special skewer, unlike the OMM rack.

Thanks fellas.

amaferanga, if the Tubus quick release kit works, I will buy that instead of fabricating some myself. Yeah, much as I absolutely love tinkering and experimenting, I do not have the tools (not even a benchvice) and I am pretty certain I will be on the project for 2 years 4 months and 12 days and incurring a cost approaching close to a couple of hundred dollars. ;-)

And I cannot run anything other than disc brakes on my frame as it is disc-only.

Topeak looks interesting. If the Tubus does not work, I will seriously look into that.

The reason why I would like to go Tubus is because it is one of the most tested racks in the market today, and I can get it very easily being in Germany. And the Quick Release kit looks like it will work, but I just need some pictures to make sure.

The pictures btw are here http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Fit%20Solutions/FIT%20SOLUTIONS%20PAGE.htm
The text says, The photos above are of a quick release mounting system that works with the Tubus Logo or Cosmo racks. "This adapter allows you to mount a rack on a bike without lower rack mounting eyelets, such as a race bike. In addition, it moves the rack toward the rear of the bike, greatly increasing heel clearance for panniers. The adapter consists of a longer quick release mechanism, and the curved stainless steel brackets that slip over the quick release skewer and attach to rack. $30.00 Set"

I THINK the added benefit is that it could clear the disc brakes hence my question to the group here.

Ziemas, did you have the rack braze-ons at the dropouts? Because my frame does not. I need to fgure a way to attach the bottom half of the rack to either the quck release axle (hence the kit from Tubus), or mount it to the disc brake mount on one side, and figure out a way to fix the other side to the braze-on, which oddly enough, has one.

Thanks all!
Still looking to confirm if either the Tubus Cosmos or Logo with the Quick Release kit will work with Disc brakes, best if it is a Avid BB7.

You could try emailing Tubus (Tubus@tubus.net) and ask. I've contacted them in the past and they were very helpful. Mind you it did take them several weeks to get my new rack to me when I broke mine. But then it was free and they didn't quible over the load I'd been carrying or anything and didn't need to see the broken rack.

Email sent to Tubus. I will update the group when I get them. And post pics if it works of course. Thanks all!

Ziemas, did you have the rack braze-ons at the dropouts? Because my frame does not. I need to fgure a way to attach the bottom half of the rack to either the quck release axle (hence the kit from Tubus), or mount it to the disc brake mount on one side, and figure out a way to fix the other side to the braze-on, which oddly enough, has one.

Thanks all!
Still looking to confirm if either the Tubus Cosmos or Logo with the Quick Release kit will work with Disc brakes, best if it is a Avid BB7.

I have some sort of hole on the drop out....

The frame is a Kona Sutra, which was very poorly designed when to comes to mounting a rack.

Check out http://www.bike-components.de/catalog/default.php?manufacturers_id=102&osCsid=492d56d77cc793a22fda481ee0948c8e for an excellent selection and great prices on Tubus stuff.

Isn't Topeak also a German company?

I have the non-disc version of the Topeak Super Tourist and I assure you that it is a beast of a rack. Worth a try as it seems to retail for less than half the cost of a comparable tubus and will fit with no hassle.

I also have a cyclocross frame. The axiom rack did not fit and I had to return it. I've been using a standard Blackburn rack for almost a year now with success. I put a 1/4" spacer between the frame and each leg of the rack, and used longer than normal screws to attach it to the frame eyelets. I bent the legs of the rack slightly to get it to fit, with no ill effect.

radical_edward, I am not sure if Topeak is a German company but that is not my reason for going Tubus. :-)
I cannot go for the Topeak disc version anyway because I lack the bottom eyelets on my frame.

The good news is that Tubus responded (quick eh?). They confirmed that the Quick Release adapater set from them will work with my frame. I have sent them pictures of my frame and disc brakes. I will buy the rack and adapter, and post pics when done.

Thanks all!

radical_edward, I am not sure if Topeak is a German company but that is not my reason for going Tubus. :-)

Oh, I am the last to accuse anybody of patriotism ;)

Good luck with your rack fitting and remember to post up some pictures for the record when you are done. I'm sure there will be others asking the same questions...

Can Tubus be contacted using English language? What is the email address? I have photos of my bike to send for comment.

Hey Savas, you resurrected an old thread here....

Wayne at TheTouringStore.com is a wealth of information, if you are looking for setup help. He's in the USA, phone number is on his website. Good guy.

Cheers,
Anna

Can Tubus be contacted using English language? What is the email address? I have photos of my bike to send for comment.
Tubus can be emailed in English. Or you can call them and speak to someone in English, although the secretary doesn't speak much English.

Hey Savas, you resurrected an old thread here....

Wayne at TheTouringStore.com is a wealth of information, if you are looking for setup help. He's in the USA, phone number is on his website. Good guy.

Cheers,
Anna

I checked before, but Wayne is unsure if it will fit my Jamis Coda Elite.

Tubus can be emailed in English. Or you can call them and speak to someone in English, although the secretary doesn't speak much English.

Is there a particular email address I should use to contact them?

thanks - Savas

Is there a particular email address I should use to contact them?

thanks - Savas
Here's the one from their site. tubus@tubus.net