Revenge VS. Fly Brakes

[Prozakk]

I have Odyssey Evolvers front & rear. The spring caps slip regularly. One of the heavy springs is warped & lost all tension. Bolt that holds down spring cap broke off in frame. Sick of working on them constantly...thus in market for a completely different design of U-brake.

Which is better, Revenge Industries or Fly? I really like the idea of the sealed bearings on the Revenge. Can either be modded for front brake use?

P.S. I run dual cables for rear brakes.

[bmxinvasion]

I use the revenge , never had any problems. I seen them used as a front brake.

[premiumbmx2005]

do you notice the sealed bearings as being smoother, or are they pretty much the same as regular brakes using springs?

[Prozakk]

do you notice the sealed bearings as being smoother, or are they pretty much the same as regular brakes using springs?

Yeah...answer please...

[Prozakk]

Okay...more site boo-boos...

[BMX Direct]

The Revenge brakes are way smooth 'cos of the sealed bearings, allot less friction, the Flys use the same idea as the Evolvers or any other with the brass bush.
The Revenges can be setup as front brakes where as the Fly brakes; i dont think so.

[Prozakk]

:beer: SOLD! :beer:

[CMcMahon]

Fly makes the Suelo brakes specifically for the front.

[Prozakk]

:beer: SOLD! :beer:

^^^You must have missed this^^^

[CMcMahon]

I saw that; I was merely correcting him on his statement that Fly does not make front brakes.

[Prozakk]

I saw that; I was merely correcting him on his statement that Fly does not make front brakes.

The Suelo's don't seem to be on their website anymore....hmmm.....

[Prozakk]

I saw that; I was merely correcting him on his statement that Fly does not make front brakes.

The Suelo's don't seem to be on their website anymore....hmmm.....

[KinetikBiker]

The Suelo's don't seem to be on their website anymore....hmmm.....
They may not be on Fly's site, but they are on Staff, Dans Comp and several other mailorders, which is where you would get them, not directly from Fly..


My vote is for Fly, becuase i thinkt that the Revenges arent as low profile as the Fly's and even for a front brake i dont think you want them to stick out much.

[Prozakk]

Height isn't a problem. The revenge & fly are BOTH lower than ody, BTW.

[KinetikBiker]

The revenge & fly are BOTH lower than ody, BTW.
True, it may not matter but according to Empire, your wrong...

Odyssey-24.8mm stack height
Revenge-29.6mm stack height
Fly-21.5mm stack height

[Prozakk]

True, it may not matter but according to Empire, your wrong...

Odyssey-24.8mm stack height
Revenge-29.6mm stack height
Fly-21.5mm stack height

Okay, the height of everything but...

[CMcMahon]

http://www.suelobmx.com/frenoeng.htm

That took a whopping three seconds to find. And the Revenge brakes have a higher stack height than Evolvers and Fly brakes.

[Prozakk]

The arms of the Revenge are much lower profile than Ody.

[CMcMahon]

Stack height is measured from the caps, not the arms, smart guy. No one's worried that their chain is going to be grinding away at the arms of their brakes.

[Prozakk]

1)Stack height is measured from the caps, not the arms, smart guy. 2)No one's worried that their chain is going to be grinding away at the arms of their brakes.

1) No **** Sherlock!
2) You don't know EVERYONE, thus an untrue statement.

[Prozakk]

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[CMcMahon]

1) No **** Sherlock!
2) You don't know EVERYONE, thus an untrue statement.

1) Then why the hell are you arguing that the arms are lower when I wasn't even referring to the arms, but the stack height?
2) Explain to me exactly how your chain would grind down on the arms of your u-brakes, without first grinding through the cap. And then find me one person that actually worries about his u-brake arms being ground down by his chain, aside from yourself, because the opinion of morons isn't valid here.

[Brian]

I can see this heading towards disc brakes soon...

[Prozakk]

1) Then why the hell are you arguing that the arms are lower when I wasn't even referring to the arms, but the stack height?
2) Explain to me exactly how your chain would grind down on the arms of your u-brakes, without first grinding through the cap. And then find me one person that actually worries about his u-brake arms being ground down by his chain, aside from yourself, because the opinion of morons isn't valid here.

Mine are grinded down near the brake pad mounting area of the arm, at the end, thank you.

Yuck fou.

[CMcMahon]

I'd love to see some photo evidence of that, with your chain and gearing in the picture. Even with 45-16, or whatever the hell you're running, I just can't see that happening with seatstay brakes, especially after looking at the pictures of your bike where the chainline appears to be at least a quarter-inch below the point on the arms where you pads are threaded-in.

http://jmelton007tx.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/bike1.jpg.w300h225.jpg

[dooley]

On evolvers the chain does rub on the arm, not enough to cause any real damage but enough to annoy you. I did this

[CMcMahon]

He has SS brakes, not CS, so he wouldn't run into that issue. That's weird that that would happen, though; I had 28-10 on my Stricker without anything but the cap getting nailed. I stand corrected.

[Prozakk]

He has SS brakes, not CS, so he wouldn't run into that issue. That's weird that that would happen, though; I had 28-10 on my Stricker without anything but the cap getting nailed. I stand corrected.

It's from the little slack I have in the chain.

As said above, not enough to truly damage, just enough to annoy.

[Prozakk]

I'm sure you'll never appologize either...

[bmichaelx]

I'm sure you'll never appologize either...

I stand corrected.

That's about as close as it gets with Beerman. You should be happy.

[Prozakk]

That's about as close as it gets with

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Donkey.jpg/800px-Donkey.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Spin_October1998.jpg

[Prozakk]

http://www.bmx-test.com/cgi-bin/reviews.cgi?review_id=2277

http://www.bmx-test.com/cgi-bin/image.cgi?view=full&category=review&key=1844

http://www.bmx-test.com/cgi-bin/reviews.cgi?review_id=2036

[Prozakk]

Nothing like puttin' 'em in their place!

[CMcMahon]

How, exactly, did you put me in my place? The first review didn't even mention that issue, and the second review stated that "this will happen with any brakes" (which it does - even my Flys have a slight amount of wear - it's not not enough of a problem to be an issue).

[Prozakk]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Donkey.jpg/800px-Donkey.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/Spin_October1998.jpg

You are always an (see above pics) to everyone. Why do you get off being such an (see above pics)?

In your place...pics of arms grinded from a chain. You tried to deny what was happening on my brakes. Your being your usual (see above pics) self. I don't remember you being here, seeing the f'n' problems with my brakes, in person. You called me a moron, then when you are proven wrong, you aren't man enough to appologize...'cause your are an (see above pics) to the the core of your soul.

[CMcMahon]

You know, you could just call me an *******. I could care less. Posting a picture of a burro and Courtney Love doesn't really do much to prove your point.

By the way, for an old fart, you sure do cry alot about what people you've never even met say about you on the internet.

And still, you didn't put me in my place. Just looking at the pictures of that guy's brakes, you'll notice that he's running low gearing with chainstay brakes, which puts the arms far closer to the chain than your setup.

Your problem is that your chain is too loose, and that you're whining about something that's practically a non-issue; it's not like your brake pad is going to fall off, and it's not as if your chain is going to snap from rubbing against the arm.

edit: I deleted a long tirade, because I didn't want to make him cry.

[FitRider 921]

edit: I deleted a long tirade, because I didn't want to make him cry.
I thought that was very nice and respectable of you not to make a grown man cry... we may be seeing a new side of Beerman.

[Brian]

This has been worse than a 4th grade playground fight.

[FitRider 921]

Yeah.. a 4th grade playground fight has action.. and more of a point than this one.

[KinetikBiker]

why cant we all just be freinds?

[FitRider 921]

There are just some people put on this Earth to be made fun of... Take for example that dude from American Idol that was horrible and got popular because he was made fun of so much.. William however you spell his last name..

[KinetikBiker]

There are just some people put on this Earth to be made fun of... Take for example that dude from American Idol that was horrible and got popular because he was made fun of so much.. William however you spell his last name..
What the ****, you have a problem with black people???


Racsist.

[FitRider 921]

No sir.. not a racist and there is a point to that though... just showing that some people are made fun of more than others. For example, in your group of friends, do you make fun of African Americans more, or white people?

[Brian]

I don't like where this is going...

[MadMan2k]

For example, in your group of friends, do you make fun of African Americans more, or white people?

Well, since neither my friends nor I are racists we usually 'make fun of' each other, if anything...
And since we're pretty much white I guess you could say we make fun of white people more.

[bmichaelx]

How the hell did this thread get turned around from Revenge brakes, to racisim?

[CMcMahon]

When people realized that racers and racists are one and the same?

[KinetikBiker]

When people realized that racers and racists are one and the same?
immature giggles.

[Prozakk]

edit: I deleted a long tirade, because I didn't want to make him cry.

beeotch, please.

The product failed. Period. You unduely called me a moron & said there was no way what was happening on my brakes, did happen. You were wrong in several ways, but aren't man enough to admit AND apologize. So don't knock MY maturity, look in the mirror!