Bicycle Mechanics - Beginners question about gearing

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copydex
04-06-06, 10:12 AM
Sorry if this seems pretty dumb but I'm fairly new to all this, so please bear with me.
I have a full suspension 24 speed mountain bike at present and am switching to a hardtail. I would like to be able, if possible, to keep the Shimano XT gear shifters that I have (as I just bought them, along with my breaks) on my current bike and switch these over to my new bike with a new groupset. I can find 8 speed cassettes no problem but can't find any mention of 8 speed compatible front and rear mechs - do I need 8 speed specific mechs or can I use any of the current Shimano XT/XTR range(they only make reference to 9 speeds)? Do I need to get 8 speed specific chain rings, etc.?
Many thanks for any help you can provide to this novice.
juicemouse
04-06-06, 11:15 AM
Sorry if this seems pretty dumb but I'm fairly new to all this, so please bear with me.
Not at all, that's what this place is for.
do I need 8 speed specific mechs or can I use any of the current Shimano XT/XTR range(they only make reference to 9 speeds)? Do I need to get 8 speed specific chain rings, etc.?
Any XT or XTR derailleur (and plenty of others) will work perfectly with your 8-speed shifters and cassette. Use an 8-speed chain. There's a tiny difference between 8-speed and 9-speed chainrings, but it's not enough to matter in practice.
Team219er
04-06-06, 11:36 AM
I would use an 8-speed specific front derailleur, because the 8 spd chain is a little wider and will rub at one extreme or the other.
Landgolier
04-06-06, 12:03 PM
I would use an 8-speed specific front derailleur, because the 8 spd chain is a little wider and will rub at one extreme or the other.
I gotta disagree, with proper adjustment this shouldn't happen.
TallRider
04-06-06, 12:54 PM
Nevertheless, if you have indexed front shifting (and you probably do), the chain will be more likely to rub with a 9-speed specific FD. You can find older FD's cheaply on eBay. Or, could you stick with the FD that you have?
copydex
04-06-06, 01:10 PM
Many thanks for all those replies - very helpful and encouraging, as I was thinking I'd have to completely replace everything and run at 9 speeds.
I've found a source for a new old stock XT 8 speed front mech but the clamp is the wrong diameter for the seat tube, unfortunately, so I'll keep on looking. In the meantime, I've ordered an XTR 8 speed cassette, XTR rear mech, XT splined chainset and b/bracket, and an 8 speed IG90 XT chain, all of which will keep me busy when it arrives - can't wait!
Thanks again,
dex.
copydex
04-09-06, 11:54 AM
HI again.
I think I've found a source for a new old stock front mech. It's a Shimano FD-M736 XT, and I wasn't sure if this was 8 speed compatible (info on the web is limited due to it's age) - does anyone here know, by any chance?
Thanks,
dex.
juicemouse
04-09-06, 11:58 AM
I think I've found a source for a new old stock front mech. It's a Shimano FD-M736 XT, and I wasn't sure if this was 8 speed compatible (info on the web is limited due to it's age) - does anyone here know, by any chance?
That derailleur was actually from a 7-speed group. It will work perfectly with your 8-speed stuff.
See: http://www.firstflightbikes.com/shimano.htm#1992
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