Bicycle Mechanics - When putting a cassette on a hub??

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Mambwe
12-11-02, 03:11 PM
Do i need to use any grease when i am tightening the lockring or do i just do it dry? This is a new cassette and a new hub so they are completely dry.


Cipher
12-11-02, 03:21 PM
I've been installing cassettes w/no lubricant for years with no ill effects that I can see.

RegularGuy
12-11-02, 03:39 PM
I install them dry, too. That was the advice given me by a professional mechanic.


pokey
12-11-02, 04:00 PM
Me too.It's umanimous.

WorldIRC
12-11-02, 04:01 PM
I've been doing it dry for 2 years.

Mambwe
12-11-02, 04:19 PM
thanks a lot guys, dry it is. Do i make it as tight as possible??

pokey
12-11-02, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Mambwe
thanks a lot guys, dry it is. Do i make it as tight as possible?? No,that could be much too tite depending on how long your wench handle is or the cheater bar you may be using on it.If its a shimano,there is a torque sped on the lockring.

RegularGuy
12-11-02, 05:03 PM
20 foot lbs of torque is the usual spec. I don't have torque wrench. I usually spin the lockring down "finger tight" (holding the lockring tool in my hand). Then I put a wrench on it and crank it about 1/4 turn.

(Edited for spelling. Doh!)

VegasCyclist
12-11-02, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by RegularGuy
20 foot lbs of torque is the usual spec. I don't have torque wrench. I usually spin the lockring down "finger tight" (holding the lockring tool in my hand). Then I put a wrench on it and crank it about 1/4 turn.

this method works well, and you can also check to see if the cassette is loose, by trying to move the individual cogs... if there is play in them then it is loose.

Bobsled
12-21-02, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by RegularGuy
20 foot lbs of torque is the usual spec. I don't have torque wrench. I usually spin the lockring down "finger tight" (holding the lockring tool in my hand). Then I put a wrench on it and crank it about 1/4 turn.

Not to put you down, but Shimano Ultegras require 40 N-m (29.4 ft-lbs) of torque to tighten the locking ring. I do have a torque wrench and for sure it's more than 1/4 turn. Kind of hard to do by just "feel".:(

Hawkphoto
12-21-02, 09:36 PM
I agree with Bobsled.

I have a torque wrench, but don't need to use it for that. I tighten it "real" good and haven't had any problems yet...

:D :D :D

Hawk

pokey
12-21-02, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Bobsled
[ Kind of hard to do by just "feel".:( [/B]Torque wench is good to have if you feel the need.'Feel' has never failed me.

RegularGuy
12-21-02, 10:02 PM
No offense taken from those who correct me.

Feel hasn't failed me either. The point is that it doesn't take a lot of torque to tighten down a cassette lockring...some...but not a lot.

Cipher
12-22-02, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by RegularGuy
No offense taken from those who correct me.

Feel hasn't failed me either. The point is that it doesn't take a lot of torque to tighten down a cassette lockring...some...but not a lot.

Yea, it's not exactly rocket science... :D

pokey
12-22-02, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by Cipher


Yea, it's not exactly rocket science... :D Yeah,but try telling that to an anal etenetive.

gmason
12-22-02, 10:31 AM
I guess it is a good thing that bikes are not very expensive. I wonder how many who decry the use of the torque wrench would change their position when working on something like the aluminum head on an automotive engine or the like.

But come to think of it, many parts on higher-end bikes and components are made of somewhat fragile alloys and the new composites. Oh well.

Cheers...Gary

pokey
12-22-02, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by gmason
I guess it is a good thing that bikes are not very expensive. I wonder how many who decry the use of the torque wrench would change their position when working on something like the aluminum head on an automotive engine or the like.

But come to think of it, many parts on higher-end bikes and components are made of somewhat fragile alloys and the new composites. Oh well.

Cheers...Gary There is more reason behind the torque wrench on auto heads than the aluminum.....as for bikes,some have a well developed sense of feel.If you don't,OH,well. Besides,torque wenches are not fool proof in the hands of the inept or mechanically disenfranchised, and do not make up for common sense or good technique.

gruppo
12-22-02, 05:45 PM
One well developed "feel" (ing) is that pokey's constant ranting seldom contributes positively or provides any help to fellow cyclists - though I do occasionally chuckle at the depth of his/her (?) sourpuss-ness (Is that a word?). Now, knowing how much pokey relishes getting in the last word, I'll be immediately unscribing from this thread in an attempt to limit further exposure (Well, at least this time around...).

Happy Holidays everyone (Yeah, even you pokey)!!!

pokey
12-22-02, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by gruppo
One well developed "feel" (ing) is that pokey's constant ranting seldom contributes positively or provides any help to fellow cyclists - though I do occasionally chuckle at the depth of his/her (?) sourpuss-ness (Is that a word?). Now, knowing how much pokey relishes getting in the last word, I'll be immediately unscribing from this thread in an attempt to limit further exposure (Well, at least this time around...).

Happy Holidays everyone (Yeah, even you pokey)!!! Yeah,maybe the holidays and more cheap whiskey will make it all better.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

gmason
12-23-02, 12:26 AM
What gruppo said! Glad he got there first, because I was going to say something I would probably regret later.

But to the point, yes - there are other reasons for using a torque wrench. Thanks for supporting my position. ;)

Cheers...Gary

pokey
12-23-02, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by gmason
What gruppo said! Glad he got there first, because I was going to say something I would probably regret later.



Cheers...Gary OH,My.You old dudes are such a hoot.Unwad yer bloomers and go ride your bicycle. And, BTW, don't forget your prune juice!

gmason
12-23-02, 07:00 AM
S I U Y A pokemeister

pokey
12-23-02, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by gmason
S I U Y A pokemeister Be nice, and maybe Santa will take the stick outa yer A__ for Christmas....Cheers.