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Rich
05-24-01, 04:06 AM
Continued from this thread (http://216.215.238.193/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1860)

From JonR

>Stan, that's a great idea--I'm just not sure I'll >be in good enough shape physically or >financially, is the only thing. But there's still >time for things to change.

>I hope you can work out something for both >events. Now: where are the Team Bike Forums >jerseys?

That's not such a bad idea actually Jon...how about it Joe...maybe have some Team Jersey's to raise some cash for the forums???

Rich


RainmanP
05-24-01, 09:15 AM
JonR, you took the words right out of my mouth, er, off my screen, whatever. Anybody ever design a team jersey? Where does one have them made/printed? Ba-Dg-Er? Mike? Steve? Anyone? What do you think, Joe? It could be and all dotcom jersey. Think Performance.Com and REI.Com want in? Other sites? Riderx? One of the local racing clubs just had new jerseys done (I am on the email list but don't belong to the club...yet). They were charging $60 for the second, et seq, as the club was subsidizing the first. With all my talk about cheap clothes, there are some things I am willing to open the wallet for, and a Team BikeForums.Com jersey would be one. Hey, there is the pro Team Ibanesto.com, why not us?

What would our colors be? Any suggestions? I really like purple and gold (LSU, '72, thank you very much. Rainbabe, too, as well as two daughters and my Dad. As the bumper stickers say "I bleed purple and gold"), but I know not everyone sees the beauty in that combination. It's Joe's forum. Maybe he should decide. No pink and black. Can't get that rear view image of Jan Ullrich in the drops out of my head. And not in a good way. Got to be light colored. Have mercy on those of us in Tuscon, San Angelo, New Orleans, and Atlanta/Augusta.
Regards,
Raymond

Joe Gardner
05-24-01, 12:08 PM
I would be very interested, however i have no idea of what it would take to design a jersey, the costs ect... Badger could you look into this further and keep me updated? Lets toss some ideas around.


Stan
05-24-01, 02:26 PM
Ba-Dg-Er: glad your back!!!! It just felt weird not having you on the forums. Are we becoming one big happy dysfunctional cycling family or what, here??? ha ha.. I think the jersey idea would be awsome if we can get it done.
Also, seems like we have a new(and very eager) road rider in our midst. Nebill or should I say Fuji dude just got a road bike. It is fun to read his posts!!! Like goin back in time. anyhoo, just wanted to STICK AROUND. ride long and prosper. Stan

JonR
05-24-01, 04:20 PM
You are now hearing from Mr. Jersey Ignorance himself--I've never owned one! All I know is that most of them have three pockets on the back. Since I like traditional stuff, I would like that.

I would like short sleeves. If short-sleeved jerseys also have zippers, I think a 3/4-length zipper would be good. If not, fine!

My favorite color is yellow, but I believe that color is reserved for Lance Armstrong. ;) My least favorite: blue. Second least favorite: green. All other colors are great.

But my problem is more one of money than of taste. If the finished product is going to cost more than, say, $35, I will probably have to bow out. It's just a fact of life, not that I wouldn't like to support a worthy cause.

Thanks for your effort re: contacting the manufacturers, etc.

And, by the way, I'm very happy you came back.

RainmanP
05-24-01, 05:19 PM
Ba-Dg-Er,
Like JonR, a simple, three rear pocket, half zip (or whatever length) would be fine. Short sleeve 'cause you can always put on long sleeves under it or arm warmers.

It would be REALLY nice if we could get them made out of Coolmax Alta fabric. I love that stuff for riding in this steam bath known as New Orleans.
Regards,
Raymond

LightBoy
05-24-01, 06:00 PM
Hey Ba-Dg-Er -

My newly formed school bike club/team ordered out team jerseys and wind vests from Verge (www.vergesport.com), and thus far we have been very happy with them. They have been an excellent company to work with.
Also, the shop I work at orders all of it's custom and team jerseys from Louis Garneau (www.louisgarneau.com). They are a little more expensive, but they have a very quick turnaround, and they make a very high quality product.
I don't know if you've contacted these companies or not, but I just thought I would throw a few more names in the hat. I would recomend either company very highly.

orguasch
05-24-01, 06:55 PM
Ba-Dg-Er,
I rmember when I was in the old country, we use to ask businesse(company) if they want their name or logos in our jersey and then we charge these company, like if they want the logos/name in the front its more expensive, but usually the breast (front is reserved for the club) so the company/logo goes, on the sleeves, on the side of the jersey, at the back , on the collar, if you get several company to advertist in the jersey, the cost of the jersey becomes very cheap, Buddy, why don't you take alook on this one, , these will surely make cost of the jersey really really very cheap...

orguasch
05-24-01, 07:00 PM
and this way the cost will be very affordable, and my friend Jonr can afford it, and count me in too, with the cost like less than $30.00.US. that gonna be a cheap jersey, and the bikeforum.com, will now be self sufficient, and Joe doesn't have to worry where he will get the next mooooolaah to pay for this site..... and no more co-branding, with other sites.......

aerobat
05-24-01, 11:19 PM
I'm in!!!

I'd go along with the short sleeve, three pocket idea, with the longer zipper.

I've seen the Louis Garneau catalogue, and agree they make good stuff.

Let's leave yellow for the TDF, and pink for Telecom. Any other color is fine with me, but I prefer not to be a riding billboard!

technogirl
05-24-01, 11:36 PM
hi, Ba-Dg-Er! I'm glad you're back! I think I've been gone way too long myself! ;)

I'm in for the jersey! I've never had one with all the neat colors and such. I have only bike-type jersey right now. I would definitely want one with BikeForums on it. My main requirement would be to have some sort of cool-max type material...something that wicks away moisture efficiently.

Just give yet ANOTHER reason to shop, right? :D

t.g.

--recovering shopaholic--

Rich
05-25-01, 01:44 AM
Cool!!! :)

Yeah a traditional, 3 pocket short sleeve jersey sounds like the way forward!!!

I'm also gonna have some stickers made up to advertise www.bikeforums.com on my bikes.

It's gotta help, right Joe???

Rich :)

Ranger Jake
05-25-01, 02:13 AM
Servus!

All I want to say is MAKE SURE YOU GET THEM BIG! I don't want to buy an XXL and still look like the jersey was sprayed on my fatness from a can. I personally like Earth-tones myself (dark greens , beiges , khaki ) and would rather not have something that screams my apperance in the woods. Then again, I think that's the soldier in me talking ;)

SO long as the aren't Telekom pink, I'm happy! BTW Badger, I'm still looking for your jersey, but with some difficulty. I'll keep you informed as soon as I have it.

Rich
05-25-01, 04:01 AM
Why don't we use the Bikeforums default colour?

It would seem to make sence...quite like it meself.....hmmmm, pink....

:p nah...couldn't go there...

Rich

Cheryl
05-25-01, 06:52 AM
I Like it!!!


I think we should use Joe's avatar as the "design" no-one would get the meaning but us! And a nice understated "Bike Forums" with the address on the front.

AlphaGeek
05-25-01, 07:12 AM
I'm in!

Ba-Dg-Er maybe we could have Joe post several colors online, and we can survey BFC for choice of colors or designs. I don't mind colabeling with a sponsor, as long as BFC is the predominant theme. Also, since I commute, I would rather not be in stealth mode, (make it bright!...but NOT PINK!!!) Sorry Ranger dark colors are cool, but not when commuting! ;)

J.R.
05-25-01, 07:33 AM
Hi, I'm new to the forum, been slinking around for just a few weeks. Been away from bikes for a bunch of years and now back with fervor. I've gotten a bunch of great ideas and advice here already and would love for my first jersey to help support bikeforums.com! I've looked at lots of other sites and a couple of other forums and I have to say you guys are the best.

Thanks Joe for a super place to hang.

AlphaGeek
05-25-01, 08:24 AM
J.R.,

Welcome dude! No more "slinking", you are now official!!!
A finer bunch of wackos just doesn't exist! :D

"You don't have to be crazy, but it helps!" :dance:

Steele-Bike
05-25-01, 08:27 AM
Joe, just an idea here...

How about not only jerseys, but also t-shirts? Some of us, especially commuters, would feel a lot more at home cruising the streets in our brand new crispy white BikeForums.com t-shirts. I know it's a lot of work...jerseys and t-shirts, but I think it would be worth it...great advertising.

Joe Pozer
05-25-01, 12:03 PM
I like the Jersey idea. I'm in....

J.R. welcome to Bike Forums...No more slinking for you since you are now a bonafide member. Now you have to put up with us. :cool:

Grump
05-26-01, 03:56 PM
The jerseys idea sounds good! I'll definitely buy one. Sure I can find enough coin if I keep hitting my wifes purse!

JonR
05-26-01, 04:41 PM
I'm pretty sure my cat's been hoarding loose change someplace. I'll take a look for it while she's sleeping. (About twenty hours a day.)

mike
05-26-01, 09:02 PM
Badger and Joe, you might find that custom JERSEYS will be expensive. It will be interesting to see what you come up with, but biking jerseys go for $50.00 to $60.00 off the shelf. Add custom designs, and it might get heavy.

As an alternative, we could silk screen T-shirts. We could have long and short sleeve versions.

If we stick to a single color, it would be pretty easy to do. Even I could do it. In fact, I HAVE done it.

Would a single color T-shirt be of interest to anyone? Perhaps even a small design on the front and a larger design on the back?

JonR
05-26-01, 09:07 PM
I'm always interested in adding to my T-shirt collection, but as with the jerseys, price is going to be the main consideration here.

Even if the jersey idea turns out to be viable, the T-shirt would still be good, because some of us do spend some time away from our bikes and the T-shirt would allow advertising the Forums during those deprived moments.

Also, I ride in T-shirts, since I don't (yet) possess a jersey.

A F Baker
05-26-01, 09:22 PM
I just ordered my first jersey yesterday, so I'm not that familiar with the types, but I have the same request as Ranger. I'm not interested in an expenisive jersey that looks like it was sprayed on.

Joe Gardner
05-26-01, 10:02 PM
The shirts are sounding better and better everyday, Im thinking we should infact start with shirts now, and maybe get some jerseys in the future.

Buddy Hayden
05-27-01, 02:17 AM
Hi there guys, yes the t-shirt / jersey idea is a totally cool idea, It might be wothwhile to check out an Australian manufacturer as the Aus dollar is worth half of the American dollar eg: if it was to cost $20 American to make you could get it done here in Oz for $10 !! cost to you !! I don't know the URL's but check out BODYTORQUE and NETTI they are local companies that do custom jerseys.....

Joe Gardner
05-27-01, 02:32 AM
Buddy! Havent seen ya around, have any good rides lately? :)

Im thinking we should just have "Bikeaholic" on the back of the t-shirt :) ... dang, somebody already registered Bikeaholic.com...

RainmanP
05-27-01, 06:03 AM
I hate to be a party pooper or whatever you might call it, but I would really prefer a jersey to a t-shirt. I just donated a bunch of t-shirts to Goodwill or somebody. I wind up with tons of t-shirts from races, advertising, blood donation, etc.. And I am just not a t-shirt wearer, though I know a lot of people are. I was using some of them for riding, but then I got some solid yellow and red Coolmax t-shirts. Now I wear only those because they are so much more comfortable in the heat.

I would buy one t-shirt in solidarity, but, in truth, I would probably never wear it. On the other hand, I have already committed to Ba-Dg-Er that I would buy 2 jerseys, whatever the price. To me, the jersey would make a statement that a t-shirt cannot approach.

Once we get a design and see if we can meet the minimums, maybe we could have some t-shirts done, also. Tell you what, if we do that, I will also buy a t-shirt to help get the numbers up to make sure we can get enough volume.

It's just a matter of personal preference.
Regards,
Raymond

orguasch
05-27-01, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by orguasch
Ba-Dg-Er,
I rmember when I was in the old country, we use to ask businesse(company) if they want their name or logos in our jersey and then we charge these company, like if they want the logos/name in the front its more expensive, but usually the breast (front is reserved for the club) so the company/logo goes, on the sleeves, on the side of the jersey, at the back , on the collar, if you get several company to advertist in the jersey, the cost of the jersey becomes very cheap, Buddy, why don't you take alook on this one, , these will surely make cost of the jersey really really very cheap...

I don't mind wearing a cycling jersey w/ all the companies name on it as long as it bring the cost of the Jersey down

orguasch
05-27-01, 07:02 AM
T-shirt I will also buy, but I will really buy a Bikeforum Jersey if the price is reasonable , so Ba-Dg-Er.. check out my suggestion, it may bring the cost down....

JonR
05-27-01, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by orguasch


I don't mind wearing a cycling jersey w/ all the companies name on it as long as it bring the cost of the Jersey down
Same here, and I would in my heart of hearts (wherever that is) go for the jersey in first place, T-shirt second unless the jersey is going to cost the member more than $35 (I want to say $30).

Definitely I would want the T-shirt eventually because it's good advertising in non-bike moments.

Summary of my feelings:

Jersey: yes, if final (user) price $35 or less;

T-shirt: yes, even if jerseys turn out impractical or too high-priced.

orguasch
05-27-01, 08:29 AM
I am all for it if the price is less than $35.00 u.s. that means its $56.00 canadian, I have a budget for that amount

aerobat
05-27-01, 08:34 AM
Good offer Mike, although I would prefer a bike specific jersey if it wasn't too out of this world expensive. It's nice to have the pockets and zip etc.

And COOL ! :D

Grump
05-27-01, 11:10 AM
Yup, definitely would prefer a jersey, but would also purchase a T shirt. Something to consider; Not everyone will be 100% satisfied with color, style, etc.....but compromise is good for the character.(or something like that)

orguasch
05-27-01, 12:04 PM
Grump,
welcome to bikeforum.com, website, hope you enjoy your stay here

mike
05-27-01, 03:23 PM
We can have both a cost effective T-shirt AND a groovy, functional jersey all in one.

Attached is a page from the book "The Bicycling Book" written by John Krausz and Vera van der Reis Krausz published in 1982. (This is a very fun and informative book, by the way).

Maybe this kind of functional home-made stuff isn't cool in these modern times, but I can tell from the "who are you" thread that some of you were wearing tie-dye when it was cool the first time around.

Anyway, the attached page from this book shows how to make a bicycle jersey with three pockets from an ordinary T-shirt. Of course, the better quality the T-shirt, the better the quality of the jersey.

What do you think, BikeForum.com cats?

thbirks
05-27-01, 03:35 PM
I would buy a jersey if the price isn't too high, $50 is the most I would pay. I wouldn't really be interested in a cotton t-shirt as I have plently of them already. I often ride in t-shirts but that's only because I already have them.

I think an option may be to go with a t-shirt made out of coolmax or some other wicking material. You can often find good prices on those especially if you're buying a lot and are flexible on the color. I would definitely be interested in something like that. It would be more comfortable on the bike than a cotton t-shirt and you could still wear it in what Jon calls nonbike moments. Just an idea.

Oh yeah, I like yellow :)

JonR
05-27-01, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by thbirks
Oh yeah, I like yellow :)
Glad somebody else likes my favorite color. (It may have something to do with my partial color-blindness: yellow is a less threatening color than red or green.)

Coolmax sounds good. I've never tried it but I can certainly attest to cotton being not so good on a bike.

JonR
05-27-01, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by Ba-Dg-Er
Yellow rocks... my frame is yellow, my helmet used to be yellow and my team jersey is yellow.
So what happened to your helmet?

fubar5
05-27-01, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by Joe Gardner
I would be very interested, however i have no idea of what it would take to design a jersey, the costs ect... Badger could you look into this further and keep me updated? Lets toss some ideas around.

I think performance has a deal where you can get a club name put on a jersey.

fubar5
05-27-01, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Ba-Dg-Er
I just don't understand what's wrong with Telekom pink.... maybe the pink and white polka dot jersey that the Hill Climber gets in the Tour would better suit you all?

:p

I think telekom pink would be nice, or USPS blue. Somewhere in this website I dissed Telekom, but I didn't remeber that was the team Jan rides for. If anybody remembers that post disregard it. Telekom is my second favorite team.

I would rather start with Jersey's than with T-shirts. But I'll go either way.

A F Baker
05-28-01, 01:35 PM
Not just Ullrich, but also Danilo Hondo. He just won two stage vicories in two days at the Giro. Telekom is impressive this year. However, I don't think I'd be too excited about wearing Telekom pink...even with the big T on my right shoulder.

A F Baker
05-28-01, 01:37 PM
I think I remember reading in his book that Lance was on the Telekom team before he had cancer.

aerobat
05-28-01, 02:37 PM
Actually I think it was Cofidis.

aerobat
05-28-01, 03:18 PM
I think the BikeForums colors, maybe a slightly lighter version of the blue, would be appropriate for the jerseys.

I don't mind high visiblity colours, either, as a matter of fact I have a yellow jersey, which I bought just for that reason.

The only thing is with yellow, it tends to attract a lot of poser(maillot jeune)comments, and I end up not wearing it much (except when I'm in the lead in our unofficial mileage competition here at work, of course!):D

JonR
05-28-01, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by aerobat
The only thing is with yellow, it tends to attract a lot of poser(maillot jeune)comments...

As much as I like yellow, I think it would be a good idea to avoid it for that reason. Especially if we're going to be riding in the Pyrenees.

roadbuzz
05-30-01, 11:08 AM
Yeah, I already have so many yellow jerseys (from all my TdF stage wins, of course), and blue jerseys. Howzabout ORANGE?

LightBoy
05-30-01, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by roadbuzz
Howzabout ORANGE?
I'm not too keen on orange. It clashes too much with my red hair. The last time I wore an orange shirt I got doused with a bucket of water. I was given the explaination, "I'm sorry, I thought you were a fire!"

JonR
05-30-01, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by LightBoy

I'm not too keen on orange. It clashes too much with my red hair.
Have you thought of shaving your head? (See thread on "What do you wear under your helmet?") Hair causes nothing but problems! And you're finding that out! :p