Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - are these flip flop hubs?

http://shop.greatdealsonbikes.com/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=GDOB&Product_Code=TR01&Category_Code=TR

i thought they were and they look like it, though the picture's sort of low resolution. anyone know for sure? just want to make absolutely certain before doing anything.

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I bet they are...this is the same set I bought from Nashbar a few months back. Great deal.

on the phone right now.

edit: yes, they are flip flop. sweet. question answered. can't believe i didn't think to just call.

FYI, Nashbar used to say that these were fixed/fixed on their website, when they were always fixed/free.

yeah, the guy said fixed/free.

"flip-flop"?? please. get with the changing times. they're duplex-style hubs.

Whaa, $125?? That seems really cheap! Less than my first set of Weinmann/Quandos.

duo-compatible

145 shipped - wow. Guy must have a good line on parts.

yeah, i swear i've seen the same wheels elsewhere for, i dunno, 180-something.

When they were on Nashbar, they sold out very quickly. Don't wait!

yeah, it's funny, i remember when they sold out on nashbar. but the link to this site was posted...um...a couple of months ago. i called and everything still seems to be in order. a pair ordered, and my lovely girlfriend will soon a) have new wheels that she desperately needs and b) be able to enter the wonderful world of fixed gear riding.

yeah, it's funny, i remember when they sold out on nashbar. but the link to this site was posted...um...a couple of months ago. i called and everything still seems to be in order. a pair ordered, and my lovely girlfriend will soon a) have new wheels that she desperately needs and b) be able to enter the wonderful world of fixed gear riding.

Major points.

points? what can i redeem these points for?

oh, wait, i get it. nevermind.

formula doesn't make a single sided track hub

I got a set of these for something I haven't built up yet... super-good for the money. You'll just need rim tape as it didn't come with.

Holy crap. This same wheelset goes for $200 locally.

formula doesn't make a single sided track hub


oh. well, i'll keep that tidbit tucked away for future reference.

oh, and rimtape...simple enough to get. i actually have one wheel's worth just laying around.

http://rhetorica.net/weblogpix/flip_flop.jpg

ha ha, the sound of that type of flip flop drives me ****ing nuts.

Did you find out if the axles on these are long enough for 130mm spacing?

are these flip flops?

Did you find out if the axles on these are long enough for 130mm spacing?

i don't need 130mm spacing for my girlfriend's bike, unless i made a mistake someplace.

hmm, ok, just wondering. I guess if they use the stock formula axles the answer is no anyway.

heh. good to know. hmmmm...they're already ordered. i'll re-measure, if 130's needed, do you think i should call back and see if there's anything that can be done?

you could buy a longer axle for like 5 bucks

formula doesn't make a single sided track hub

Whoa! I ordered an IRO recently, and forgot to specify that I'd prefer fixed / fixed. I figured I'd just suck it up and live with it, but...is my wheelset gonna be fixed/fixed anyhow? That'd be awesome!

it'll probably be fixed/free.

you could buy a longer axle for like 5 bucks

yeah, that's what i was thinking. not really gonna sweat it.

I'm sure there are threads about this, but I think the party line is that only tony's stuff fits 130. His hub shells are formula, but he uses different axles. 125 can usually be pinched/cold set down to 120, and you can also mess with skinnier track nuts or whatever. It should work.

Whoa! I ordered an IRO recently, and forgot to specify that I'd prefer fixed / fixed. I figured I'd just suck it up and live with it, but...is my wheelset gonna be fixed/fixed anyhow? That'd be awesome!

When he said they don't make a single sided hub, he meant they don't make a fixed/nothin' like some of the older and higher end stuff. I don't know what Tony would send you if you don't specify, but I'm sure they'll swap it out if it hasn't shipped yet and do it just for shipping cost if it has.

I ordered these wheels on Tuesday and the showed up today. I through them on my Motobecane BD $395 bike and they work great for the money. The hubs, are much better than the ones that came on the bike.
Now I have an extra set to throw on my beater at work to convert it. Just need a cog and lock ring.
While they are not the best wheels in the world, if you want to do fixed on a budget these might fit the bill.

Kenal0

i just ordered a set of these and the experience was pretty good.
i had problems with the web form, so i called the guy up. he was home (i could hear his kids running around in the background :)).
turns out that he won't ship wheels to an address that's different than your billing address (my shipping address and billing address aren't even in the same state) because he's had problems with fraud.

turns out he takes paypal (and western union, and checks) so i paid him via paypal and i'm all set.

Be prepared to rebuild them yourself, or at least back off the tension and redo that. My front was practically unlacing itself in the middle of a ride, rear lasted like 50 kms before I had to.

not just take 'em to a shop to true them? i'm not going to true wheels till i find a beater wheel to **** with.

I'm sure people had different experiences than I did. The tension on mine seemed ok, pretty close, and true out of the box, but I paid to have them both relaced (same spokes) - my front started coming dangerously loose about 25 kms from home, the rear wouldn't stay in true after a couple of rides.

I'm a heavy rider though, and these were my first prebuilt wheels and my first fixed wheels (stripped it!), so ymmv. If you're newer to bikes you should really learn to true them, it's not hard at all.

That's coming from someone who's been on a bike for 25 years and has managed not to learn how to do it - afraid of tools! And messing up the things that are spinning under me at 30kms an hour in traffic or down a mountain path.

Tension on mine were fine and I through them on my truing stand and made a few small adjustments but nothing major. I will use them as is for a while and see what happens. I am not very big and I do not beat on my bike too bad, just use it for training on decent rodes so we shall see.

Kenal0

Mine needed to be tensioned too. They were loose out of the box. They're great wheels though.

I'm sure people had different experiences than I did. The tension on mine seemed ok, pretty close, and true out of the box, but I paid to have them both relaced (same spokes) - my front started coming dangerously loose about 25 kms from home, the rear wouldn't stay in true after a couple of rides.

I'm a heavy rider though, and these were my first prebuilt wheels and my first fixed wheels (stripped it!), so ymmv. If you're newer to bikes you should really learn to true them, it's not hard at all.

That's coming from someone who's been on a bike for 25 years and has managed not to learn how to do it - afraid of tools! And messing up the things that are spinning under me at 30kms an hour in traffic or down a mountain path.

it's not so much that i'm newer to bikes...it's just that i've always had just one set of functional wheels (even with three bikes, something was often wrong with each). and so, i decided i didn't want to **** up any wheels worse than they already were in order to try and learn to true them. i'll wait till i have the luxury of wheels i can mess with, and don't have to go anywhere on to learn.

Roommate just got hers. They look good. Not true like woah, but definitely true for just having been shipped. I haven't put the tensiometer on them, but they pluck test about the same pitch as other wheels I have around that I recently trued, so it should be all good. The tension is not super-even, but it's pretty darn good. Spoke prep definitely used, though the spokes are about 2 mm too long. I'm going to run them through the rolf smasher, true them up, and see how they do, but I don't see any reason why these would detension themselves.

They're spaced 120 rear, but there's room for 130 on the axle. All in all, a hell of a good deal; you could barely pile up the parts for these wholesale for this price.

got 'em today. perfectly in true, smooth rolling, everything great. i'm actually sort of jealous of my girlfriend now...these are exactly the wheels i want for my next conversion.