Road Cycling - Fast Peloton Rides in DC/North Virginia?

hmmm, that one could work, but it would depend on what time I would have to be at work...

I guess I should be more specific, basically I am looking at time range of 11AM-3PM start. Which I am guessing will be pretty hard to find since it is the heat of the day...

Thats a pretty hard time to make for most people on a weekend, given they probably have other plans as well as riding. You may just have to organize your own...

Hey Bicycle Place buddy! I do the Sunday rides every week as well. Nothing beats seeing a 150-rider peloton coming over the crest of a hill.

I usually wear my Canada jersey on these rides, so people can yell out "CANADA!" if they need to get my attention, rather than saying "Hey...you...in the...other... Bicycle Place jersey!"

Anyway... amazing ride. The pace line has been a bit squirrely these past couple times, but the challenging hills more than make up for it :)

I think I saw you last sunday wearing that red and white canada jersey (i wore a red colnago jersey/shorts), I guess you just started doing that ride recently.



does anyone have the details on something called the "N2 ride"? i overheard someone talking about it. i think it starts somewhere in silver spring, 7:30 am or so on the weekends but i don't remember exactly.


N2 (No Name) ride put together by a bunch of riders from Bicycle Place ride. They ride the route similar to 10AM. They meet at corner of Beach Dr and Stoneybrook Dr, http://tinyurl.com/yslotf (near Mormon Temple) every saturday at 7:30. Ride goes year round. There are few riders from N2 ride will go all the way to Poolesville or Sugarloaf to get more miles. N2 has more hills than their sunday ride but they do ride slower. I usually do the N2 but lately I like to ride with 7:00AM ride with DC Velo, because I have to be home before 10, and they do ride faster.

I think I saw you last sunday wearing that red and white canada jersey (i wore a red colnago jersey/shorts), I guess you just started doing that ride recently.

Yeah I think last week was my 4th or 5th time. I drive all the way down from Baltimore, so I didn't know about it until a local friend brought me along :)

N2 (No Name) ride put together by a bunch of riders from Bicycle Place ride. They ride the route similar to 10AM. They meet at corner of Beach Dr and Stoneybrook Dr every Saturday at 7:30. Ride goes year round. <snip>

thanks, RC, for the details!


I guess I should be more specific, basically I am looking at time range of 11AM-3PM start. Which I am guessing will be pretty hard to find since it is the heat of the day...

my experience with the VA clubs is the latest starts on the weekend have been at 10:30 am. but each club has its own variations. also, you may be able to find, say, a regular 40 mile ride and join them after they are 10 miles into it.

if a ride starts close to where you live, that would save you time. here below are the names of some clubs near or in baltimore. i got them through some online research for a (out of shape and getting even more out of shape) friend. i bet there are a few more clubs with rides in the area b/w DC and Annapolis that are not on that list, since i was looking for b'more, not south of b'more. i seem to recall that potomac pedalers (http://www.bikepptc.org/) has a gazillion rides, some of which are out your way, but i'm not sure. please post, if you find something, though. it's always good for all of us to have options at all times of the day, esp. as the weather cools.

Adventurers Club of Towson
Baltimore Bicycling Club - Baltimore
Chesapeake Wheelmen - Baltimore
Harford Velo Cycling Club Harford County
Lateral Stress Velo Racing team and bicycle club - Baltimore, MD

there's another ride i just learned about today. it is sponsored by a new bike shop in dc, "the bike rack". link is here (http://www.bikerackdc.com/community/group-rides/). leaves sundays at 8:45 am, 40 miles or so at a 'moderate' pace. we passed them this morning. they were doing about 19 mph to our 23 on macarthur blvd so it's definitely 'moderate' but it was a good sized pack of 20-30 riders and looked quite sociable -- a fun way to burn off some of those fatty american meals...

[march 2010: i had to fix the broken link. if it breaks again, just go to http://www.bikerackdc.com and look for ride info.]

I did the N2 ride a few weeks ago. The N2 is a nice, friendly ride for A and B riders -- if you're willing to get up early enough for a 7:30 am sharp departure. It's a friendly ride, everyone introduces themselves at the start--a nice contrast to most of the rides I've been on. There were about a dozen of us or so. I don't know if that size is representative of the ride. Probably not, though. This was on Columbus Day, so it wasn't the customary day of the ride. I got dropped on a couple of hills. I would say it would be a decent work-out for an A rider, if they were looking for one. But the ride waits at a couple of spots, so B riders can enjoy it too.

BTW, the Bicycle Place ride is the closest to the ideal ride I've ever seen in 13 years of riding. It's still big, even on cold weather days: about 60 riders or so. And the surprise bonus for me is that one has a real sense of camaraderie and community. People gather at the shop afterward for free espresso and conversation, and the bike shop owner, Mike Butchko, is a great host and sets the tone of friendly banter. He fit me on my bike for free and gave me some spare parts for a nominal cost.

The ride has evolved a bit. It splits now into A, B and C groups at the lung-searing Mass. Ave climb. Then the A & B riders rejoin at Great Falls.

The only reservation I have about the ride is that there have been a fair number of crashes this season. I've heard about half a dozen or so. Maybe that's to be expected when you have so many riders in a group. There's more peloton-style riding and less single and double paceline riding. I haven't seen any particular pattern to the crashes, so it's hard to analyze. Several people have told me that they are due to mixing experienced with less-experienced riders, but I'm not convinced. If people have thoughts on how to make the ride safer, feel free to pipe up. I'm on the ride's listserv and can pass them on.

Just heard about another ride. It was a DC Velo rider who told me, I think. Sounded like it is mostly his team on the ride, but that's just a guess.

Mon - Fri 12:30 pm, sharp. Start in Bethesda at intersection of Goldsboro and Bradley Blvd (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=goldsboro+and+bradley+blvd&sll=38.923567,-77.036509&sspn=0.0104,0.019913&ie=UTF8&ll=38.976509,-77.106686&spn=0.010392,0.019913&z=16&iwloc=addr). 'Rolling hills'. I don't know the distance or intensity yet. The exciting thing about this ride (for me, at least) is that it goes every day during the week, like the Hains Point ride.

A DC Velo web page (http://dcvelo.com/rides.php) also has some detailed descriptions of the 7 am Saturday ride, the 10 am Sunday ride and the Hains Point rides. BTW, the Hains Point rides are fast only on Tu-Th. They are more just social/recovery/taper-down rides on Mon and Fri. There are also a lot of riders at HP in the evening after 5 pm or so until dark. You can almost always find a paceline to play with then. I've heard that Thursday evening is a special one, but I haven't been there yet.

Please take the time to correct this, if the information is wrong or misleading. I haven't been to a couple of the rides I mentioned here, so they are not verified yet.

There is a sunday evening ride out of Bicycle Pro Shop in Georgetown, but I know nothing about it...

www.bicycleproshop.com (http://www.bicycleproshop.com)

i just stopped by the Bicycle Pro Shop in Georgetown to pick up a tire tube, and asked what the deal is with the sunday rides. they said that they hadn't started them up yet, only informal rides were taking place after the shop closed on sundays. but they said that there would be something on the website if it officially starts up again.

[5/09: stopped by again. still no formal ride. the guy i talked to said the same thing, i.e., they might be starting it up again. so it looks less likely, since it keeps getting delayed. but check the website, just to be sure.]

Have you tried the Wakefield Tues/Thu speed works? It's 10 times harder than Bicycle Place B ride if you tried to keep up with the front group (especially on Tues)

oops. sorry for the late reply. yes, i think i mentioned the wakefield training ride in an earlier post. it's a great ride. if i were still living in arlington, i'd be doing it every week. (i live in dc now, adams morgan.) i don't know about the lead group being ten times harder than the bicycle place B ride, but the lead group is definitely a bunch of A riders -- i.e., too fast for me.

btw, i was on part of the bicycle place ride this morning. on the way back, at about 9:45, i saw a large group heading west on macarthur boulevard . many of them had 'bicycle rack' jerseys on, so i assume it is the ride i mentioned in my 8/26/07 post. it was pretty big--about 30 riders or so, maybe a bit more. pace looked moderate--say, 20 mph or so on the flat.

i've been on eight or so bicycle place rides this season. i haven't seen any crashes recently--pretty good for a ride that big (70 or so at the peak) with a wide range of skill levels. also, the ride has gotten harder: 4 major climbs, and climb #3 is really long (macarthur leading up to falls rd, in potomac, md). on climb #1 (west mass ave to sangamore), if you can hang with the A riders, you know you've hit the big time. the grade must be around 6% for about a 1/2 mile and they show no mercy. they go hard and accelerate as they near the top. i was able to stay with them for about the first...15 seconds...and i still reached the crest toward the front of the B group. it's like a totally different league...

i've also been doing the hains point noon ride (fast rides are tues-thurs, i think). great way to develop some sprinting power. i've recently learned that there is a thursday evening hains point ride that is pretty popular. i've only been once; there about 20 of us--great way to wind down from work... i don't know if there's an official start time. i think it's in full swing by 6 pm but i'm not sure.

^^^ There are some seriously strong riders around here, and they frequent those rides. They'll rip out your soul, as you already learned. ;)

Another fast ride from DC is the Wednesday evening Downtown Breakaway ride from Mitchell Park in Kalorama/Dupont. The ride leaves promptly at 6:00 pm. There is a strong A contingent at this ride, and it attracts some strong riders (when riders from local race teams show up, they're well matched with the faster riders on this ride). It takes in hills, runs pacelines, etc., to fit in as much terrain and mileage as possible given weather and available light.

For folks who live in the District and want a strong, weekday group ride that isn't just more laps at Hains, it's a nice alternative.

(Full disclosure: I'm one of the A-group leaders for this ride.)

that sounds very intriguing. is that the same thing as the 'goon ride'? (see chairsmissing's description in the first post.) i've always been leery of the goon ride b/c it sounded very fast. if this one's a different ride, are there B+ riders in it?

Great post - I think I'm gonna try and hook up with the Reston Bike Club for some of their rides sooner or later. Looking for a regular Saturday / Sunday ride at the B level.

What ever happened to Koffee?

man i live a mile from the start of the saturday dc velo rides and I cant do them because of work. Until 2weekends ago I never really knew what I was missing either. :(

Any idea of the pace for the DC Velo 7am Saturday ride?

Is the webpage description accurate (40 miles/2.5 hrs) or is it more intense in reality? Are they okay with interlopers?

I'd love to knock off a hard ride first thing in the morning.

it might be the fastest ride in the area especially when all the cat 1s show up. it really depends on whatelse is going on that weekend though. if there are big races that weekend some of the big dogs wont be there. Its open to everyone so show up and give it a go.

The Hains Point noon ride is affectionately known as the Noon Goon Ride - good deduction skills there!

Great post - I think I'm gonna try and hook up with the Reston Bike Club for some of their rides sooner or later. Looking for a regular Saturday / Sunday ride at the B level.

I should try that too.

referring back to my first post in this thread with the quote from chairsmissing:
more details on the Goon Ride: i recently came across an email from a fellow club member from April. he said the ride is Tuesday and Thursday, 5:45pm (as of April). so it's not just tuesday night.

he also mentioned a Sunday morning 7 am ride. i assume this ride follows the same route as the Saturday morning ride.

thanks for the post about the Downtown Breakaway ride. i did it one time. apparently it's sponsored by the Potomac Pedalers Touring Club. there are a lot of hills. the first half hour is manageable but the pace was too much for me and i had to drop off, once we got near glen echo park, in maryland. but there were some slower riders behind me. i could have waited for them if i had wanted to do the whole route. i think it was 30 miles or so, but don't remember exactly, at this point. (4/2010: THE RIDE IS NOW ON WEDNESDAYS--SAME HOUR OF DAY, SAME LOCATION.)

up until daylight saving time ended in november, i was doing the thursday evening Hains Point ride. that is a GREAT ride. it starts at 5 or 5:30 pm and is a nice, fast ride, sort of like the noontime sprints but a bit more relaxed, more non-racers take part, the pace is a bit slower -- but not a whole lot slower -- just perfect for a cat 5 or older racer. i assume it will start up again in march, when daylight saving time begins.


Another fast ride from DC is the Tuesday evening Downtown Breakaway ride from Mitchell Park in Kalorama/Dupont. (4/2010: NOW ON WEDNESDAYS, SAME HOUR OF DAY, SAME LOCATION--DGL) The ride leaves promptly at 6:00 pm. There is a strong A contingent at this ride, and it attracts some strong riders (when riders from local race teams show up, they're well matched with the faster riders on this ride). It takes in hills, runs pacelines, etc., to fit in as much terrain and mileage as possible given weather and available light.
For folks who live in the District and want a strong, weekday group ride that isn't just more laps at Hains, it's a nice alternative.
(Full disclosure: I'm one of the A-group leaders for this ride.)

Great post - I think I'm gonna try and hook up with the Reston Bike Club for some of their rides sooner or later. Looking for a regular Saturday / Sunday ride at the B level.

The Hains Point noon ride is affectionately known as the Noon Goon Ride - good deduction skills there!

Potomac Pedalers Touring Club. there are a lot of hills. the first half hour is manageable but the pace was too much for me and i had to drop off

They do that a lot.. for whatever reason, NCVC and other clubs around here, it seems to me they have only two speeds. Off and On.

more info on the Thursday Evening Hains Point ride: apparently, it's an official ride of the NCVC. the page describing it is here (http://www.ncvc.net/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=15). it says it is an 'intense race simulation ride', but it wasn't that hard, the few times i did it last fall. maybe i was just lucky, i don't know, but the Noon-time Hains Point sprints are much harder, it seems to me.

It's pretty easy to make the Hains Point thursday night ride very very hard. Go OTF on one of the earlier laps and set a pace that you like. Whatever the pace is on the first few laps usually holds for the rest of the day, I've found. When Dave comes out, it can be pretty rough.

yes, i made the mistake of getting on superdave's wheel a few weeks ago. there was a gap after the chicane on the east side. i tried to match his acceleration and blew up...

i heard from an NCVC racer that there are tuesday evening sprints in alexandria. i don't know the time or exact location, but it sounds like a good option for those, like me, who would be spit out the back pretty quickly on the goon ride. i think they do some sort of loop.

i did my first race in the Greenbelt Park Training Race Series (http://www.route1velo.com/GreenbeltInfo.asp) a few days ago. it wasn't that bad--i managed to hang on for the first 8 laps, and it was a tremendous work-out. my average heart rate was 4 bpm higher than the highest average i've reached in any work-out in the past few years...

the course is pretty nice regarding safety. the cat 5 field never hits its maximum of 40 riders (i asked). there were about 20 of us at the start, this time. there's only one turn. it's a 90 degree right-hand turn that everyone has to brake for (in the back of the pack in the C race, at least). apart from that, the only dangers that i noticed were the typical ones in a race of tired or overly-aggressive or dumb racers touching wheels, cutting off the riders behind them, etc. i just tried to stay out of trouble, learn some new things, and pound the bejesus out of my legs...

the nice thing about training races is that you can drop out, bring your heart rate back down from the stratosphere, then jump back in again.

i only wish they had a race just for people like me: cat 5s over fifty y.o. who were never very fast even when they were young...

Good thing you've tried it! It's definitely quite an experience, though it seems that having some group riding experience helped you out. Are you going to continue racing?

yes, i made the mistake of getting on superdave's wheel a few weeks ago. there was a gap after the chicane on the east side. i tried to match his acceleration and blew up...

i heard from an NCVC racer that there are tuesday evening sprints in alexandria. i don't know the time or exact location, but it sounds like a good option for those, like me, who would be spit out the back pretty quickly on the goon ride. i think they do some sort of loop.

I don't know about Alexandria, but we're in Annandale on Tuesday nights at 6:10pm roll out.

Groups from AA to DD

Parking lot here - show @ ~5:50 and you'll see all the riders mulling around:

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/parks/maps/parkmaps_moore.htm

Hains Point, as mentioned above, has fast rides. Often there will be a number of cyclists down there in the evenings, often with some strong riders. There is a noon ride there on weekdays that can be *very* fast. My understanding is that the guys who ride the noon ride are pretty much the strongest riders in the DC area. I've ridden down there a fair amount, and while I can stay with a group doing 20+ for 50 miles, I got dropped there in that ride because the sprints are so fast.

truckin

I think DC Mayor Fenty shows up for the weekday rides

i've been continuing to do the 8:30 am Sunday Bicycle Place Ride and the Hains Point sprints. i've even managed to finish the climbs and sprints in the sunday ride in the top 10 or 15 -- very satisfying. (that's in the B group, not the A group!)

MrCrassic: "Are you going to continue racing?"

i joined the Artemis racing club last year and have tried to race regularly. i did a couple of Tradezone & Greenbelt training races this year. but (a) my schedule is too unpredictable and i'm often out of town. so it's hard to maintain the very high level of fitness necessary to even stay with the pack. and (b) i find that racing is too dangerous at the level beyond the training races. i LOVE this sport but i like my bones just the way they are, thank you very much...

NomadVW: "I don't know about Alexandria, but we're in Annandale on Tuesday nights at 6:10pm roll out."

yeah, this ride has been described earlier in the thread. i did it many times, back when i was living in arlington. it's a great ride.

dalava: "I think DC Mayor Fenty shows up for the weekday rides"

just saw him there last week. [Deleted negative comments about Fenty's bicycle infrastructure policies. I'm more positively inclined, these days.]

I saw a team-mate in a paceline on Wilson Lane, in Bethesda, a while back, and asked him about it recently. He said there are noon-time rides every weekday, Monday through Friday. I don't know what the start point is. Does anyone know about this ride?

BTW, I've changed my opinion about the dangers of racing. I think it is possible to race safely. I know someone who has been an avid racer for 25 years and has only crashed two times. And he is not the only one who has been successful in keeping the rubber side down.

I saw a team-mate in a paceline on Wilson Lane, in Bethesda, a while back, and asked him about it recently. He said there are noon-time ride every weekday, Monday through Friday. I don't know what the start point is. Does anyone know about this ride?

BTW, I've changed my opinion about the dangers of racing. I think it is possible to race safely. I know someone who has been an avid racer for 25 years and has only crashed two times. And he is not the only one who has been successful in keeping the rubber side down.

It's indeed possible to "race safely," but that doesn't mean you're safe from harm.

I think the only position to take about safety in racing is that "sh!!t happens," and from person to person, everyone's got a certain amount of that sh!!t they can take happening to them. For every guy who's raced 25 years and has no injuries to show for it, there's another guy who was just as skilled who got crashed out and quit the sport when the bad luck outweighed the fun.

I saw a team-mate in a paceline on Wilson Lane, in Bethesda, a while back, and asked him about it recently. He said there are noon-time ride every weekday, Monday through Friday. I don't know what the start point is. Does anyone know about this ride?
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starts at bradley and goldsboro every day at 12:30. Wednesday is the hardest day with it being all hills. Mainly the ones that the saturday 7am dcvelo ride does.

can anyone lists anymore daily rides in the DC/NOVA area, even ones that newbies can hang in? Thanks

can anyone list any more daily rides in the DC/NOVA area, even ones that newbies can hang in? Thanks

you can do the potomac pedalers (PPTC) (http://www.bikepptc.org/) rides. there are tons of them. that's a good introduction for someone new to paceline riding. some of those riders are quite fast and they're more patient with newbies than racers are. if you're that new, then i also STRONGLY RECOMMEND you google "paceline etiquette". it's not only annoying to be in a paceline with an inexperienced rider, it's also dangerous. visit several pages b/c there is no one hard and fast list of guidelines.

some of the rides listed here above are not that hard, if you're relatively fit. i think i mentioned the Bicycle Rack ride somewhere. that is pretty leisurely. i'd say it averages about 20 mph on the flat. the Reston Bike Club training rides (http://www.restonbikeclub.org/) are split into at least three groups (maybe four, if i remember correctly), based on ability. the 8:30 sunday morning Bicycle Place ride is also split into three groups, but the C group tends to be pretty small (five or six riders).

the PPTC site explains the gradations of rides from A through C.

if you're looking strictly for daily rides, i can't think of any that would be appropriate for a newbie. but the RBC training rides mentioned above are tues/thurs. the weekday 12:30 ride in Bethesda is daily. the previous poster said wednesday is very hard. (you have been warned!) it all depends on your fitness level. if you're 25 years old and fit, you might be able to hang on for the first 20 minutes or so, or even longer. that, alone, would be a helluva work-out. and, then, as time goes by and you got fitter, you could hang on longer. it's a great way to get fast--work hard or get dropped! but make sure you stay AT THE BACK until you get positive feedback from several racers (we're talking racers now, not 'riders') that your skills are sufficient to get in the middle of a paceline.

I just came across information on a year-round Conte's Bike Shop Thursday evening ride out of Bethesda at 6:15 pm. Has anyone done that ride, know how fast it is? (The Conte's Bethesda website also lists a women's ride every 4th Tuesday of the month at 6:30 pm.)

Here's a good link w/ maps for the weekend rides

http://snappletriteam.com/?p=881

I did not read read all the posts on this thread: sorry if this redundant. Go to the Potomac Pedalers site. They sponsor rides in DC, MD and VA that range from slow, easy and short to very competitive, hard and long. Also, The Bicycle Place shop (near East-West Highway in Bethesda) has some smoking weekend hammerfests. National Capital Velo Club and DC Velo clubs do a bunch of rides as well. Best thing to do is go to the aforementioned club websites for more information or cruise Rock Creek Park/Beach Drive on weekend mornings and hook up with a group and ask riders what's going on.

Here's a good link w/ maps for the weekend rides
http://snappletriteam.com/?p=881
thanks for posting! just to clarify, that link shows a few weekend rides. it doesn't mention the other DC-based sunday morning rides, apart from the Bicycle Place ride. also, bear in mind that the Bicycle Place ride route evolves slowly over time. i don't know how frequently the site admin updates the map. but it's still very useful b/c there is no other map of the BP ride that i'm aware of. regarding the Rock Creek Park ride maps, i get dropped way too early on those rides to get the gist, when i dare to go, so i don't know how accurate they are. if someone knows, PLEASE POST!


I did not read read all the posts on this thread: sorry if this redundant. Go to the Potomac Pedalers site. .... Also, The Bicycle Place shop (near East-West Highway in Bethesda) has some smoking weekend hammerfests. National Capital Velo Club and DC Velo clubs....
i appreciate your wanting to help out, but most of this has already been covered. in order to keep the thread from becoming too long to read through, it's best, i think, to post only new information.

and a propos of the new information you mentioned, i just happened to come across the NCVC site today and, yes indeed, there is a ride that i wasn't aware of. it's their Arlington Hill Ride, every Tuesday at noon, only 17 miles long, meet point only 1 1/2 miles from Key Bridge. according to the description, two groups go out, one ten minutes after the other. i assume the pace for the faster group is "A" pace and the other closer to "B+", or maybe a bit faster, since it's sponsored by a racing club. if others know more about it, please post.

this thread is doing great. it may well be the most comprehensive listing of fast rides in the DC area, at this point. keep up the good work, y'all!

i was scrutinizing the NCVC site and came across more info. go to the home page of www.ncvc.net and click on the 'rides' tab (http://www.ncvc.net/rides/Wiki%20Pages/Home.aspx). there's a nice list there of fast rides in the area. it's not comprehensive. for example, my fave, the Sunday 8:30 Bicycle Place ride is not there. but it's the best list i've seen thus far on one page. there are several NCVC sponsored rides that i was unaware of, too. of particular interest, since it starts downtown is the off-season Sunday 9 am Espresso Ride (http://www.ncvc.net/rides/Wiki%20Pages/Sunday%20Espresso%20Ride.aspx). it looks like the information on that page is from 2009, so if it is incorrect, PLEASE POST!

Here are details on the Conte's ride I pulled off the MABRA listserv:

contes of bethesda thursday night ride:
"it's an A-B training loop, about 25 miles with just a little more,
shall we say, civility, than the other more goonish ride on thursday
evenings. we start at the contes bike store on old georgetown and
woodmont. (parking in the garage on woodmont, low ceiling: take your
bikes off the roof and drop them in the store first!) we spin out to
macarthur blvd and back.
leave the store at 615pm usually back by 730ish.
more at
http://contesbikestores.com/goto/bethesda"

i went to do the Downtown Breakaway ride yesterday but no one was there. i've written to the original poster to see if it is taking place this year or not. hopefully, i'll hear back.

okay, i just heard back. the ride still exists, same location, same time, but one day later, on wednesdays.

see posts #62 and 71 for details.

I did the Wednesday 6 pm Downtown Breakaway ride last week. (See posts #62 and 71 for details.) Very hard for me but I had to leave the ride early anyway b/c of another engagement. I chatted with the ride leader about this thread and he sent a follow-up.

<<Note that I post any last-minute schedule changes to the "Ride News" forum at the PPTC website (http://www.bikepptc.org/). Usually I'll get any cancellations notices up there by 4:30pm.>>

[6/16/10] i just checked for today's ride. the last minute updates are in the right hand column on that web page, under "Ride News".