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crucifixion12
12-16-02, 02:10 PM
I've been reading reviews about road tires, and I'm noticing some tires called tubulars, their manufacturers are talking about glue, do these tires not have intertubes? If this is so, what is the difference between a tire that has intertubes and one that doesn't? Is there a performance difference? Also how would you fix a flat on a tubless tire when you're out on a ride?
A tire that I'm seeing great reviews for is called a Tufo S3. Does anyone have experience with this tire? The reviews I'm seeing for Vittoria aren't that great, I'm trying to get a very good tire for training and racing.
Tubular tires are th eones with a inner tube inside and all is sewn together. These need to be glue to a special rim.
I have to say Tufo tires are the worst. Vittoria the best. Most reviews online are from dealers and distributors BS customers.
Tufo tires I have personally found are really bad in wet weather and you cannot fix them. They sell you a liquid sealant much. These you can use in any tubular. Nothing special.
Plus all Vittoria tires are all kevlar. PLust they use latex tubes on the higher end models. All in all ther eis more for your money on a Vittoria tire.
I have to say Tufo tires are the worst. Vittoria the best
Sez who?? Other than Vittoria Corsa, anything else with on that brand in tubulars is junk! As for Tufos, I've had nothing but good luck with them. They last nearly forever, they are light, and they are nearly perfectly round. They nearly never puncture, either. If your specific model is too hard (some are built for long life, and therefore are lousy in the wet), there is always the S22, probably the best all-around tubular made today!
Plus all Vittoria tires are all kevlar
Not quite....If you are referring to the "3-D" kevlar, that is not a kevlar belt, but rather tiny bits of kevlar mixed in a non-orientated fashion within the rubber. This does nothing for puncture protection, but rather is used as a cheap method to increase the wearability of these tyres.
PLust they use latex tubes on the higher end models.
Gee....that's a plus? Pay extra $$ for a tyre that leak 40 psig pressure just sitting overnight? Granted, Vittoria Corsas are great tyres (and, for $50 a pop, they d@mn well better be!), but, for $22 each, the Tufo S22 really is hard to beat. Those sub-$20 vittorias are nothing but garbage-lumpy, nasty riding, and heavy as lead.
Originally posted by crucifixion12
I've been reading reviews about road tires, and I'm noticing some tires called tubulars, their manufacturers are talking about glue, do these tires not have intertubes? If this is so, what is the difference between a tire that has intertubes and one that doesn't? Is there a performance difference? Also how would you fix a flat on a tubless tire when you're out on a ride?
A tire that I'm seeing great reviews for is called a Tufo S3. Does anyone have experience with this tire? The reviews I'm seeing for Vittoria aren't that great, I'm trying to get a very good tire for training and racing. If you don't know the difference,my.02 worth and HO, is you should be on clinchers.
crucifixion12
12-16-02, 10:17 PM
yeah I've only been riding for about 5 months (I'm coming over from distance running), so I know next to nothing about bikes except to get on it and go hard. So what are clinchers, man? The little bit that I do know is from hanging out and riding with guys who either are racing a lot or have raced a lot in the past. They've taught me a little (mostly about riding, not much about gear and stuff because I haven't asked much about that), but there's still a long, long way to go!
Yeah, I don't know why someone would blast TUFOs. They are the best. I have had the exact opposite experience and all the racers I know that use TUFOs love them too.
trmcgeehan
12-17-02, 02:01 AM
I recently bought two self-sealing tubes from Bike Nashbar for $5.95 each. Supposedly, these tubes will seal up to three punctures. There is also a side benefit. With my old regular tubes, I would lose up to 10 pounds of air pressure overnight. With these new tubes, the overnight air loss is only 2-3 pounds.
aerobat
12-17-02, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by crucifixion12
yeah I've only been riding for about 5 months (I'm coming over from distance running), ...So what are clinchers, man?
Welcome to the riding fraternity crucifixion!
Clinchers are just your ordinary garden variety tire, held on to the rim by air pressure and the shape of the rim.
Hi,
tires are just like girlfriends. You never know
what the ride will be like when you unwrap the package, or how long it will last.
And what suits one feller will be plain poison for another. But you have to get your rubber on the road, so to speak. So try a few, and keep a peeled eye watching for a keeper. My old Bridgestone XO2 came with Ritchey Tom Slicks. They are nothing special. They're not rugged enough for touring guys, hard enough for high mileage types, or fast enough enough for anybody that wants fast. They're just a nice tire, I have a pair on my new wheels. But I confess, I do like the fast ones .....:D
So what are clinchers, man?
clinchers are what you're riding now.......
Here's a link to Sheldon Brown, he explains the differences and pros and cons of clinchers vrs. tubulars.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tires.html
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