Touring - How do you mentally deal with wind?

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howsteepisit
04-17-06, 01:47 PM
On my ride this weekend, the wind was whipping at 30+ mph. Due to the perversity of cycling (wherein 85% of any ride will be either uphill, into the wind or both), a lot of my ride was into the wind. So how do you all deal with the wind. Although I know that I will have to gear down and ride slower into the wind, it seems to be totally depressing to me to have to gind it out that way. I just cannot get to the point of emotionally accepting the slow pace, and end up ridding at very high heart rates for the entire time of th ride while going into the wind.

Any good tricks to get to just slow down and take it easy?


amaferanga
04-17-06, 02:02 PM
Anytime I ride into the wind I always end up exhausted because I just can't accept going much slower. What really bugs me though is that I only ever get a stiff back and neck when I'm battling the wind, I guess because I'm not as relaxed and I'm gripping the bars too tight.

When I was touring last year I had almost a month of constant head winds and it nearly broke me. It made what would have been very easy cycling (it was almost completely flat) into bloody hard cycling cos I couldn't accept a lesser distance each day.

I wonder if there are any tricks. All I ever do is curse the f***ing wind and plead just for a few minutes of relief.

Monoborracho
04-17-06, 02:05 PM
Even if you ride out and back in a straight line, uphill and into the wind going out, and downhill with the wind on the return, it doesn't ever even out. This is simply because you have more time at the slower speed. Accept it. Just grind away and realize you are probably going to have less than 10mph average for the day.

On my last tour, one day I had a 25-30, gusting to 40+ nose on wind and it took me over five hours to make forty miles.

Usually the wind is less in the early AM. This time of year we have some pretty good winds here in the southwest US. If you have lights, try to get an early AM jump on the wind and maybe get in one or two hours before it gets up.

Again, accept it. Uphill and into the wind is what its all about, always. Downhill and with the wind is just the icing on the cake.

".....and then the wheels came off"


cc_rider
04-17-06, 02:10 PM
Just blow it off.:p

webist
04-17-06, 02:25 PM
I tend to ride for time rather than speed or distance. Headwinds therefore make for harder or shorter rides or both. Winds do not detract from the time I ride.

jamawani
04-17-06, 02:36 PM
1. You cannot beat the wind, it will always beat you if you let it.
2. Slow down - look at the petunias.
3. Bike early in the day in the West.
4. Wait until after 6:00 if you can.
5. Stop often for goodies if you are biking against a headwind.
6. Bring along a book - or better - a kite.
7. Call your husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend, mom, dad, or Wanda.

WorldWind
04-17-06, 02:47 PM
ride on tree lined roads

jcwitte
04-17-06, 03:05 PM
I agree that wind can be a bit of a downer, but so long as it is not mixed with cold, I think I can handle it. The absolute worst feeling is when you are riding into the wind on a cold day and your "boys" start to go numb. I hate that so danged much. I did a few rides this past winter and spring where the whole ride home was spent with one hand steering and one hand shielding myself from the wind. The first thing I'm going to buy come the Fall is some windproof underwear. As far as the wind goes during the Summer.... I just try to remember how scary some of my windy winter rides were, then I can laugh about it and that helps to accept a slower average speed.

halfspeed
04-17-06, 04:17 PM
Neo, there is no wind.

dbuzi123
04-17-06, 04:29 PM
Turn around and enjoy the push!

dreamy
04-17-06, 05:12 PM
Just try to push it out of my mind and pretend it is not there. Don't try and push too hard, and lower my expectations of mileage. Accept the fact that I am going to go slower.

I had a lot of time of think about this last year on my cross country tour. After 2 days of strong headwinds in Eastern Colorado I went to a libary to check out a weather forecast online, and the forecast was for strong easterlies (ie headwind) for the next week. Now that was heartbreaking and the low point of my whole tour. But I survived. The main lesson I learnt was that getting angry and hurling abuse at the wind doesn't help.

Loud music helps too

Machka
04-17-06, 06:04 PM
Just do like you say ... gear down and ride into it. It's a lot easier riding into a wind than climbing a hill ... and with wind you will get breaks now and then.

I've spent the last 13 years riding into winds like that .... not a big deal. After a while, you learn to ride the wind ... picking up speed when the wind dies a little because of trees or a passing truck, slowing down when the wind increases in strength, etc.

Sigurdd50
04-17-06, 06:36 PM
What really bugs me though is that I only ever get a stiff back and neck when I'm battling the wind, I guess because I'm not as relaxed and I'm gripping the bars too tight.

good point
need to swallow your pride (and your usual cadence)
That's what the low gears are for. Put it in a low gear and just find some zen point
and hope for the occasional grove of trees to give you a break.

On tour?
Build in some days and do NOTHING.

ignominious
04-17-06, 06:38 PM
I find myself a gear that is workable in the headwinds and lock into it. Then I start a little deep breathing and focus on that and if the road is decent and fairly straight I switch to auto pilot and start thinking of other things. If a circumstances allow me to speed-up I pick up on it pretty quick, but as soon as that headwind kicks in again I start again.

The trick is to learn to be able to ignore the headwind as soon as possible. Kind of zen style.

babysaph
04-17-06, 06:39 PM
Just like everything else in the U.S. We Americans can not slow down. Just slow way down and enjoy it. I find that I can get a good workout with the wind.

acantor
04-17-06, 08:40 PM
I have aero bars on my touring bike. When going against strong winds (assuming traffic conditions allow) I snuggle down into the aero bars, find a nice low-gear, relax my body and my expectations, and just do the best that I can. If I only average 5 mph, that's fine. Better to have a nice time than to be frustrated by forces that are not under my control!

Someone else said something about looking at the petunias! Great advice!!!

Blackberry
04-17-06, 08:48 PM
There is something about wind that just drives people nuts--maybe literally. When I was in Austria, I heard about a wind called the fohn, which can blow every day for a month or more. People have used the fohn as a defense in criminal trials.

supcom
04-17-06, 08:48 PM
Tape over the spedometer readout so you don't see it.

Some of my best rides were done by not displaying speed on my Polar HRM. If you ride based on heart rate instead of speed, you won't burn yourself out fighting the wind or hills.

mtnroads
04-17-06, 09:34 PM
I hate the wind. Here on the peninsula south of San Fran we get consistent 25mph afternoon winds all summer long, actually starting about now and going until Sept, when we get a brief Indian Summer with less wind. It keeps the air really clean but it is damn cold in the evening (50's - 60's) which is a PITA when that is the only time you can ride. Hard on the tourists too, espec if the fog blows in with it. I have come back from some long evening rides just frozen.

Chris L
04-17-06, 09:56 PM
In New Zealand I was regularly riding against 90km/h winds -- one particular day it was 150km/h+. All you can do is just accept that you're going to be travelling a bit slower, get into a lower gear, and just pace yourself. Allowing some flexibility in your planning is a good way to facilitate this. Be prepared to do a slightly shorter day (which might also mean buying your supplies in an "earlier" town than you had previously planned), and try to look at the positives. What other things are there to do in that area?

I remember one particular day on the Catlins coast where the weather turned unbelievably crap and I basically shortened a day to 65km at Papatowai (I'd been intending to go for Slope point). I just decided to take a morning visit to the Cathedral Caves the next day -- something that wouldn't have been possible in the high tide of the previous afternoon.

hoogie
04-18-06, 01:22 AM
I find myself a gear that is workable in the headwinds and lock into it. Then I start a little deep breathing and focus on that and if the road is decent and fairly straight I switch to auto pilot and start thinking of other things. If a circumstances allow me to speed-up I pick up on it pretty quick, but as soon as that headwind kicks in again I start again.

The trick is to learn to be able to ignore the headwind as soon as possible. Kind of zen style.

ditto ... i just find a comfy gear, stretch out and zone out ... if it becomes too much, i try and plan a short day and hole up in the next decent town ...

on my last tour, i zoned out while grinding into an unrelenting strong coastal wind and didn't notice that my two touring colleagues had stopped ... i guess i got about 5 kmn up the road before i realised, so i just sat in the long grass on the road side until they came into view ...

i tend to do a lot of contemplating while zoned out and and cycling slowly too ... planning new tours, diversions or bike mods ...

jcm
04-18-06, 02:25 AM
There is something about wind that just drives people nuts--maybe literally. When I was in Austria, I heard about a wind called the fohn, which can blow every day for a month or more. People have used the fohn as a defense in criminal trials.

Yes, I'm familiar with that Austrian phenomenon. Also occurs in the Snohomish River valley east of Everett, WA.:(

ellenDSD
04-18-06, 08:23 AM
I've only had my road bike a few months so maybe there's some newbie factor but what I hate the most is when I feel like the wind is going to blow me over. I guess they are called cross-winds?? Does anyone have any advice for dealing with that?

Roughstuff
04-18-06, 08:41 AM
One tough thing about the wind is it does bob and weave some, forcing you to adjust your lower back (usually) in an attempt to keep balance and motion. So you can end a long day in the saddle against the wind with a bad backache.

I have granny gears, and using them when i ride against the wind is my favorite trick. I am not a fast rider under any circumstances, so the wind doesn't affect me mentally. I find the noise of the wind isolating. One of the joys of touring is how close you are to nature, its sounds and smells...and often the wind destroys that.

roughstuff

Roughstuff
04-18-06, 08:44 AM
I've only had my road bike a few months so maybe there's some newbie factor but what I hate the most is when I feel like the wind is going to blow me over. I guess they are called cross-winds?? Does anyone have any advice for dealing with that?

A howling wind from your left (in the USA where we ride on the right) is the worst. My advice is to be careful! What happens is you canter over a few degrees to keep your balance in the wind. When a large car, truck, or---worst of all, a damn bus!---goes by, there is a huge surge of wind just as the vehcile arrives and then, BAM! the wind disappears for a moment, only to return when the bus goes by. Its very easy to wobble a bit, at the worst of times. So be on your gurad then this situation arises.

roughstuff

Nif
04-18-06, 10:08 AM
I remember winds in Kansas which absolutely sucked and what I did to combat the frustration was to listen to music.

I'm not suggesting that you tune out your awareness though - I often listened through only one earpiece. And as it was the back roads of Kansas there were decent shoulders and often no cars or trucks for what seemed like hours.

kamoke
04-18-06, 10:30 AM
I found that the main thing that pisses me off with the wind is the deafening sound. I'll either listen to music of put earplugs in. Also on several occasions I've put the bike in the ditch and helmet in the woods.

fthomas
04-18-06, 11:25 AM
Wind - An interesting perspective.

As a former helicopter pilot flying Air Rescue and mountan rescue in Washington state. One of my Medic's brought some clarity as to why people climb:

"People climb to go and listen to the wind whistle through the holes in the head."

I'm not suggesting that this applies to anyone here, but I might fall into that definition myself.

Actually, I think one of the sweetest sounds is that of wind and machine. Sit back, shift to a comfortable gear and take your time. Why stress over the inevitable - Wind. That will only make drudgery of why we get out there in the first place.

a77impala
04-18-06, 11:48 AM
I am resigned to ride against the wind no matter what direction I go,
I don't understand I can ride into the wind turn around and be going into
the wind. Going under a bridge is like riding into a wind tunnel. I have had
the wind blow me off the road and stop me dead in my tracks.
I guess I have just gotten used to it. Today 60 mph gusts are predicted
I won't be riding!

Matthew A Brown
04-18-06, 02:15 PM
Sing. Loudly.

hoogie
04-18-06, 03:01 PM
what i really hate when grinding into a strong headwind is when you can't hear cars and trucks approaching from behind until they are about level with you ... scared the cr*p out of me on more than a few occasions!

worse i think is slowly grinding up a long steep climb into a headwind for an absolute eternity and then having to pedal down the other side ... you've earn't the coast, but it has been robbed from you ...

ellenDSD
04-18-06, 03:09 PM
I am resigned to ride against the wind no matter what direction I go,
I don't understand I can ride into the wind turn around and be going into
the wind. Going under a bridge is like riding into a wind tunnel. I have had
the wind blow me off the road and stop me dead in my tracks.
I guess I have just gotten used to it. Today 60 mph gusts are predicted
I won't be riding!

I'm young and enthusiastic with a general dislike for speed so pedaling into the wind really doesn't bug me. I'm happy to plod along. It's getting blown over that really irritates me and scares me to death. Once my son and I were riding along and a gust nearly blew him into the curb... He maintained control (yes, I'm proud AND thankful) but it scared the bejesus out of him too!

Timonabike
04-18-06, 08:46 PM
Anytime I ride into the wind I always end up exhausted because I just can't accept going much slower. What really bugs me though is that I only ever get a stiff back and neck when I'm battling the wind, I guess because I'm not as relaxed and I'm gripping the bars too tight.

When I was touring last year I had almost a month of constant head winds and it nearly broke me. It made what would have been very easy cycling (it was almost completely flat) into bloody hard cycling cos I couldn't accept a lesser distance each day.

I wonder if there are any tricks. All I ever do is curse the f***ing wind and plead just for a few minutes of relief.

I think you answered your own question in your second paragraph.

Relax. Take a 'zero' or 'nero' touring day. Catch up on your journal, read a good book, write post cards, cook a 'fancy' dinner with wine for friends in the biker/hiker area. Take photos, visit a coffee shop or book store. Meet new people. Clean your bike. Wash your clothes. Take a break!

It's not about the miles.

Cheers!

Tim.

SteveFox
04-18-06, 09:14 PM
timonabike, you said it best.
i find taht i zone out anyways on the open road when im going up hills or into the wind. it doenst really phase me at all. like today, the wind was really bad and i had to go uphill, but i just sat and pedalled slow, did about 5kmh and got home after a few extra minutes. no biggie. i like to just meditate and zone out and think deep thoughts.

steve

edp773
04-18-06, 10:05 PM
I've only had my road bike a few months so maybe there's some newbie factor but what I hate the most is when I feel like the wind is going to blow me over. I guess they are called cross-winds?? Does anyone have any advice for dealing with that?

What I do is lean into the cross-wind slightly and lean less as the wind diminishes. Even though wind can be unpredictable, you can get a feel for when it is going to increase or decrease. Go for rides in strong cross-winds and practice riding in a straight a line as possible.

As with trying to get better at anything, practicing your weak skills improves your overall skills.

philso
04-19-06, 12:31 AM
turn around and ride the other way ;)

sth
04-20-06, 12:03 AM
All I ever do is curse the f***ing wind and plead just for a few minutes of relief.

Ya, that about sums it up...

seeker333
04-20-06, 01:00 AM
1. You cannot beat the wind, it will always beat you if you let it.
2. Slow down - look at the petunias.
3. Bike early in the day in the West.
4. Wait until after 6:00 if you can.
5. Stop often for goodies if you are biking against a headwind.
6. Bring along a book - or better - a kite.
7. Call your husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend, mom, dad, or Wanda.

I heard its windy only once a year in WY, but that it lasts 364 days.

Who's wanda? Does this have something to do with John Cleese?

jamawani
04-20-06, 01:09 AM
Yeah, right - - Jamie Lee Curtis drives my sag wagon.
And the wind here the past two days has been at a mild 40 to 50 mph.

ho hum
04-20-06, 01:10 AM
I was riding in a strong headwind the other day, had my head down and in my zen spot and nearly ran over an old guy walking on the side of the road. I guess I was still going faster than walking.

Find your zone but don't tune it all out to the point that you miss hazards.

Blackberry
04-20-06, 05:56 AM
turn around and ride the other way ;)

That's what I always do. Which is why I haven't been home in eight years.:o