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cruentus
 
Jeremy Clarkson is the guy from the "Top Gear" car show. Here is the meat of the article.

"The next obvious choice is a large 4x4, but this is not an option for the weak. That’s because some people, usually on bicycles, bang on your roof as you go by and say they find your conspicuous consumption offensive.

What I want to do at times like this is bang on their cycling helmets and say I find their poverty offensive. But I’m made from stronger stuff so I turn the other cheek and run them down."


Here is the entire article -- a review of the Mercedes-Benz R-class

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Mercedes-Benz R-class
By Jeremy Clarkson of The Sunday Times

On second thoughts, this is a big mistake

A couple of weeks ago the transport department, headed by Darling and ManLove, announced that they’d be opening a car-sharing lane on a busy stretch of motorway near Leeds. They argued that making people join forces for the trip to work would result in fewer cars on the road, a greener future for our baby children and 1,000 more wonderful years for our glorious leader.

Right. Well, if we’re going to share cars then it makes sense to buy something with a large number of seats. I, for instance, run a seven-seater Volvo XC90 because you can cram kids in the back on the school run and this means their parents can stay in bed. How sociable and public spirited is that? Not very, according to Gordon Brown who, only two days after Darling and ManLove’s initiative, announced that because I run a large car that’s ideal for sharing I was to have my head kicked in by the taxman.

This seemed strange but there’s a reason. Apparently when the Labour party came to power, it made a manifesto promise to cut the amount of greenhouse gas by 20% by 2010.

To do this they’d have to get rid of every car, bus, train, factory, aeroplane and power station. And then they’d have to kill every cow, horse and sheep. And then they’d have to exterminate everyone in China and India. But no matter.

They made the promise, the voters believed them and they had to be seen to be doing something about it.

That’s why Gordon Brown imposed his new tax on “gas guzzlers”. The plan is that we stop buying off-roaders, the ice caps heal, the polar bears are saved and all will be well when Blair’s 1,000-year Reich comes to an end.

Right. I see. So someone is going to walk away from a £70,000 Range Rover because of an £80 tax surcharge? Seems a bit far-fetched to me.

And now guess what? It obviously seems a bit far-fetched to the government as well, because just a week after the budget it announced that it wouldn’t be keeping its promise to cut carbon dioxide emissions. In the same way that it hasn’t kept its promise to sort out Iraq, the National Health Service, the education system, immigration, benefit fraud or anything at all.

So there you are. In the space of three weeks you are encouraged to do car sharing. Then you’re handed a Range Rover tax for doing just that. And then you’re told it makes no difference.


The best thing we can do is treat our leaders as bluebottles. There’s no point waving our arms about and getting agitated because it’ll make no difference. They will continue to buzz about being annoying




It’s not just Range Rovers either. You’ll be clobbered if you have a BMW 1-series or a Citroën C5. Which means nearly everyone with a reasonable car will be paying Gordon Brown to look like he’s trying to achieve a goal that’s simply not possible. And those who downsize to something more economical will find themselves banned from the new car-sharing lane proposed by Darling and ManLove. And this lot honestly think they’ll get re-elected.

Jesus.

The best thing we can do is treat our leaders as bluebottles. There’s no point waving our arms about and getting agitated because it’ll make no difference. They will continue to buzz about being annoying. So let’s just relax and think about this car-buying issue logically.

If you’re part of a school-run syndicate, you need a lot of individual seats with individual seatbelts. But not a people carrier obviously, because this will give other road users the impression you have no social life and no exciting underwear.

The next obvious choice is a large 4x4, but this is not an option for the weak. That’s because some people, usually on bicycles, bang on your roof as you go by and say they find your conspicuous consumption offensive.

What I want to do at times like this is bang on their cycling helmets and say I find their poverty offensive. But I’m made from stronger stuff so I turn the other cheek and run them down.

You may want to avoid this ugliness and go for a conventional estate car, which in many ways is wise and sensible. It’ll be nicer to drive than any MPV or off-roader. It’ll be easier to park, more stylish and much cheaper to run as well. But it’ll only have five seats. And this brings me back to the Volvo XC90. The first car to have been designed by someone who had children, not an engineer who’d read about them in a book.

You get seven seats, as well as space in the boot for dogs and bicycles. And yet it is not much larger than a normal estate car. It’s a triumph of packaging and yet it doesn’t look like a mumsy MPV or a gittish Chelsea tractor. That’s why it’s such a smash hit, a de rigueur must have accessory for every yummy mummy in the land. I’m on my second.

Next out of the blocks was Audi with the Q7, which is expensive, ugly, impractical and therefore irrelevant, and now we have the Mercedes R-class.

This car was listed as “good” in the recent Good Car Bad Car supplement. But because it is the policy of this column to correct mistakes as soon as possible I feel duty bound to tell you it isn’t.

And this is why. It is billed as a crossover vehicle combining elements of an estate with the best bits of a 4x4 and it is a measure of Mercedes’ success in muddling the two up that we managed to get our own wires crossed.

In the supplement it was judged as an estate, and was therefore up against the Audi A6 and Merc’s own E-class. Here it may well be a winner, and first impressions were pretty good. But last week I drove one for 800 miles and realised that this wasn’t an estate at all, it was a 4x4, and should be judged as such. And by this reckoning it wasn’t pretty good. It was, in fact, rubbish.

The model I drove was a standard length, entry-level 320 CDI, which is about £42,000. Plus Bluebottle Brown’s £80 punishment. This makes it nearly £10,000 more expensive than an entry-level Volvo and it’s hard to see why.

Yes, Volvo’s new diesel is no match for the creamy engine found in the Merc and yes, the XC90 wobbles where the Merc is smooth and flowing, but in 4x4 load luggers, handling, power and refinement must play second fiddle to the toys you get as standard and how much you can cram inside. The Merc fails on both counts.

First of all, just about every single gadget on my test car was an optional extra, which took it up to £46,000, and even then you get only six seats. This might be a bonus for an estate car but it’s one fewer than most 4x4s.


Model Mercedes-Benz
R 320 CDI Sport

Engine type 2987cc, six cylinders

Power 224bhp @ 3800rpm

Torque 510 lb ft @ 1600-2800rpm

Transmission Seven-speed automatic

Fuel 30.4mpg

CO² 246g/km

Acceleration 0-62mph: less
than 8.8sec

Top speed 134mph

Price £41,470

Rating

Verdict A muddled car for confused drivers



It’s the same story with boot space. With the third row of seats down, the boot is large. Bigger in fact than the Audi A6 or the E-class estate. But with them up there is no boot at all. What’s the point of that? No, really. What is the point of a car that takes up four spaces all on its own, but has no space in the back for so much as an after-dinner mint.

Mercedes points out that for an extra £1,500 it will sell you a version that’s 10in longer, which makes it even harder to park. It argues that in this you get an extra 200 litres of boot space. But how much dog can you get into 200 litres? The front half of an Irish wolfhound? So what do you do with the rest? Leave it at home?

I have no idea how many litres of boot space is offered by an XC90 but I know I can get two labradors and a small bike in there. And I know it has one more seat than the Merc and I know it’s cheaper, so why should I care if the engine’s a bit rough?

The worst thing about the Merc, however, is that it’s such a bore to drive. The larger engined R 500 (which was reviewed in Good Car Bad Car) at least has a burbling V8 to have some fun with. But in this version I went all the way to Co Durham and then back via London, Bedford and London again, and it never did anything remotely amusing. Except chew quite a lot of fuel.

It rode quite badly, failed to have the power for overtaking, gave me a hint of backache and was considered “ugly” by those who saw it. I will therefore do what the government cannot do and apologise for being a muddleheaded nitwit.

This, contrary to my earlier reports, is not an estate, it is a 4x4. And not a very good one. You’re better off buying a condom.

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12529-2145169,00.html


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A good , real life example of why car-bike co-existance will never,
ever happen.
Im surprised an editor even let that many words of something
totally unrelated to the article get by.


DonPenguino
 
If you've ever watched Top Gear it's quite obvious that one of his main forms of comedy is satire. He's been or sponsored races on the show going both ways, runners and cyclists beating cars, cars beating public transportation.

While it is true that some of his views are decidedly anti-environmental, please don't read a quote as a human being in the whole.


Roody
 
Just another Limbaugh type dick. Ignore him and move on. His ideas are no more characteristic of the mainstream than my own.


TeleJohn
 
I've seen a few of those shows, very toungue in cheek. None of the vitriol of Limbaugh. One episode had a free climber beat him to the top of a mountain/cliff.


EnigManiac
 
I sure would like to meet up with him on my way to Goodwill or the Salvation Army Thrift shop. I'd give him a piece of my mind, I would (I haven't got anything else to give him). Maybe I'll bump into him on my way back from the Food Bank with my load of dented cans of Spam and Kraft Dinner and slap him with a package of bologne. That sure would teach him, wouldn't it.


ken cummings
 
That mans' writer is a genius, perhaps an evil genius to some but genius none-the-less. The more hooks you can put in the dialog, the more people you can get involved, and the better the ratings. Even if you hate him and tell people not to watch, some will to see what you are talking about, and get exposed to any commercials. If an elected official or a sworn officer said something like that then you take action.


jhota
 
1. Clarkson "hates" everyone that isn't Clarkson. deal with it.

2. he's attacking the fact that a certain demographic (militant "cyclists") tend to be offensive to anyone that doesn't fit their ideals without finding out why. he's talking about buying a big car for carpooling for goodness sakes! we should attack people who are trying to increase the number of humans per vehicle, reducing overall trips? really?

3. besides the dig at cyclists, he's parroting the "liberal agenda" earlier in the article, too.

sheesh.


misteralz
 
Clarkson's ace - and that article, whilst being brilliant, is in no way one of his best either. He's advocating car-sharing and you're lambasting him? And you wonder why drivers dislike cyclists???
And to answer Ken Cummings - Top Gear's on the BBC. No adverts. Which is blissful.


TYB069
 
I think that quote about bike poverty is made tounge in cheek and in fact is not the point of the article at all. The point of the article, if you actually read it, is that Mercedes-Benz R 320 CDI Sport is not a very good or practical vehicle.


Johnny_Monkey
 
Clarkson's ace - and that article, whilst being brilliant, is in no way one of his best either. He's advocating car-sharing and you're lambasting him? And you wonder why drivers dislike cyclists???
And to answer Ken Cummings - Top Gear's on the BBC. No adverts. Which is blissful.


Clarkson is a selfish dickhead.

If you're a petrolhead you'd love him, but as a greenie I can't stand him.

He's the guy who said he'd run over any cyclist that ran a red in front of him.


Here's more from Wikipedia:

Clarkson's views on cyclists and promotion of motoring have caused concern among cycling and road-safety organisations. Transport 2000 have called for Top Gear to be replaced by a more safety and environmentally aware motoring programme. In February 2004, Clarkson rammed a 30-year-old horse chestnut tree with a Toyota Hilux pick-up truck to demonstrate how rugged the vehicle was. This led to the BBC having to compensate the local parish council who, until they saw the Top Gear broadcast, thought that the damage had been caused by local vandals.


In 2005, the School of Technology at Oxford Brookes University awarded him an honorary engineering doctorate, leading to protests from green organizations, who objected to his statements on the environment and his advocacy of car use. He has said: "I do have a disregard for the environment. I think the world can look after itself and we should enjoy it as best we can". After the ceremony, he was hit in the face with a banana meringue pie by a protester. [9] Clarkson took the pie on the chin and commented that it had too much sugar.

In September 2005, Clarkson wrote an editorial for The Sun criticising Americans after the Hurricane Katrina rescue response, and included the comment: "most Americans barely have the brains to walk on their back legs."

Clarkson has spurred another controversy in his capacity as a presenter for BBC2's Top Gear. During the 13 November 2005 episode a news segment featuring BMW's MINI Concept from the Tokyo Motor Show showcased what fellow presenter Richard Hammond quoted as a "quintessentially British" integrated tea set. Clarkson responded by mocking that the German designed-and-owned MINI Cooper should be fitted with "a quintessentially German... sat-nav that only goes to Poland" in reference to the Nazi invasion of Poland that started WWII, and saying "[one] fan belt will last a thousand years," a reference to Adolf Hitler's propaganda slogan of "the thousand-year Reich". These statements gained negative attention in the British and German news media.


ZachS
 
he's a brit, you can't really judge him by american standards. entirely different culture.


LittleBigMan
 
"The next obvious choice is a large 4x4, but this is not an option for the weak. That’s because some people, usually on bicycles, bang on your roof as you go by and say they find your conspicuous consumption offensive.

What I want to do at times like this is bang on their cycling helmets and say I find their poverty offensive. But I’m made from stronger stuff so I turn the other cheek and run them down."
Seems like this happened to him once, and since he's not "made of stronger stuff," he's whining to the public.


slvoid
 
I have that episode on my computer and I thought it was hilarious. By american standards you'd have a mob of angry jews at his door but maybe we should stop judging the WORLD by our moral and social standards.

Kind of like the whole breast issue. The country right next door has no problems showing breasts on public tv. I think a lot of it is artificial conflict created to keep us angry and offended.

The show is called Top Gear where 90% of the cars they test get 8mpg and is completely inaccessible to 90% of the people who watch the show, drivers and cyclists a like. I mean, it's not like it's called First Gear.

Clarkson has spurred another controversy in his capacity as a presenter for BBC2's Top Gear. During the 13 November 2005 episode a news segment featuring BMW's MINI Concept from the Tokyo Motor Show showcased what fellow presenter Richard Hammond quoted as a "quintessentially British" integrated tea set. Clarkson responded by mocking that the German designed-and-owned MINI Cooper should be fitted with "a quintessentially German... sat-nav that only goes to Poland" in reference to the Nazi invasion of Poland that started WWII, and saying "[one] fan belt will last a thousand years," a reference to Adolf Hitler's propaganda slogan of "the thousand-year Reich". These statements gained negative attention in the British and German news media.


Johnny_Monkey
 
he's a brit, you can't really judge him by american standards. entirely different culture.


I'll judge him by British standards then shall I?

He's still a twat.


Eatadonut
 
He's right.

If you bang on his car and tell him he's a consumer *****, then I believe you should get a good thwack on the helmet.

Maybe people wouldn't have dickish thoughts about bicycle advocates if we weren't such a collection of dicks.


cruentus
 
I've seen a few of those shows, very toungue in cheek. None of the vitriol of Limbaugh. One episode had a free climber beat him to the top of a mountain/cliff.

According to Freud, there are no jokes.


geo8rge
 
It's Prius owners he should be angry at.


CMcMahon
 
If you've ever watched Top Gear it's quite obvious that one of his main forms of comedy is satire. He's been or sponsored races on the show going both ways, runners and cyclists beating cars, cars beating public transportation.

My personal favorite: Lotus vs Apache.


slvoid
 
I think my fav is jaguar vs. speed skater.
Or mercedes/porsche vs. swat team...


CMcMahon
 
^ I think that it was an SAS squad, actually, but, yeah, that was a damn good one. If they'd be firing real bullets, he would've been dead twenty times over.


slvoid
 
^ I think that it was an SAS squad, actually, but, yeah, that was a damn good one. If they'd be firing real bullets, he would've been dead twenty times over.

At least Jeremy spends his money on gas and not teeth whitening.

BTW, for everyone else, it's rumored that Jeremy can't do the full 70 mile drive to work without stopping to refuel his ford GT40...


wsexson
 
Maybe I'll bump into him on my way back from the Food Bank with my load of dented cans of Spam and Kraft Dinner and slap him with a package of bologne.
You do know that Murkins don't have the slightest idea what KD is, right?


misteralz
 
Clarkson is a selfish dickhead.

If you're a petrolhead you'd love him, but as a greenie I can't stand him.

He's the guy who said he'd run over any cyclist that ran a red in front of him.


Yeah?

So would I probably - doesn't mean I'd do it on purpose. Picture the scene - you're driving along, through a set of green lights with traffic coming in the other direction and some cyclist comes across your path. You'll brake, yes, but do you swerve? No. Swerving one way will make you mount the pavement and potentially kill some pedestrians, Swerving the other puts you into the path of oncoming traffic. Driver's side to driver's side, natch - and with the added bonus of maybe, just maybe, pinching said cyclist between the two cars. So here we have the prospect of either:
potentially killing pedestrians,
causing a multiple pile up and almost definitely killing the cyclist,
or:
running over cyclist who endangered his life by his own free will - and still feeling guilty about it forever!

I know which I'd choose...

And I still think Clarkson, and Top Gear, are completely ace.


Johnny_Monkey
 
Clarkson said he'd do it deliberately ie he would run them over just because they ran a red; he didn't qualify the comment. Basically, he wouldn't brake for cyclists.

I'm afraid he's a frightful oik.


dooley
 
JC is a character, not a real person. My problem is that some idiots take him at his word and agree with him.


Johnny_Monkey
 
JC is a character, not a real person. My problem is that some idiots take him at his word and agree with him.


Yes, but they're his audience.


misteralz
 
Why don't we ban Jeremy Clarkson then? Banning things makes them go away and everyone can sleep safe and sound... :rolleyes:


Johnny_Monkey
 
Why don't we ban Jeremy Clarkson then? Banning things makes them go away and everyone can sleep safe and sound... :rolleyes:


Ban him? How do you ban a person?


misteralz
 
That was my point exactly... that the sort of folk that go around trumpeting how "all things are bad!" have no idea about how they would actually go about removing them from society or how much of an impact such a move would make...


Johnny_Monkey
 
That was my point exactly... that the sort of folk that go around trumpeting how "all things are bad!" have no idea about how they would actually go about removing them from society or how much of an impact such a move would make...


You could assassinate him. Is that what you had in mind? You could also lock him up in Gitmo or something.

You can't ban him, but you could get the government to ban him from broadcasting presumably.

The impact upon polite society would be minimal if he was suddenly to disappear, if you catch my drift. Nudge nudge.;)


misteralz
 
Not at all, I was suggesting we ban him completely. Just like when Transport 2000 tried to get Top Gear banned. Viewing figures went up. And stayed up because folk liked what they saw. Banning Jeremy Clarkson or at least attempting to would make him all the more popular, which is a good thing... because 95% of what he says is completely true and well reasoned. The ability to make his opinions make him look like an outspoken arse is amazing. Or we could embrace Richard Hammond, you choose...


bbattle
 
That mans' writer is a genius, perhaps an evil genius to some but genius none-the-less. The more hooks you can put in the dialog, the more people you can get involved, and the better the ratings. Even if you hate him and tell people not to watch, some will to see what you are talking about, and get exposed to any commercials. If an elected official or a sworn officer said something like that then you take action.


Exactly. It's called Trolling.


misteralz
 
If Jeremy Clarkson was Prime Minister, then the UK wouldn't be anywhere near as f*cked as it is jus'now...


Johnny_Monkey
 
If Jeremy Clarkson was Prime Minister, then the UK wouldn't be anywhere near as f*cked as it is jus'now...



I think a large part of the UK's problems is caused by the people living here as much as the govt.


Johnny_Monkey
 
Not at all, I was suggesting we ban him completely. Just like when Transport 2000 tried to get Top Gear banned. Viewing figures went up. And stayed up because folk liked what they saw. Banning Jeremy Clarkson or at least attempting to would make him all the more popular, which is a good thing... because 95% of what he says is completely true and well reasoned. The ability to make his opinions make him look like an outspoken arse is amazing. Or we could embrace Richard Hammond, you choose...


Who's Richard Hammond?


misteralz
 
I think a large part of the UK's problems is caused by the people living here as much as the govt.

I agree - but you can honestly say things have gotten better since Tory Blair came to power? Nah, it's more of the same $hit from a new face. Except with more spin and "sexing-up".
Hammond's that annoying little git off Top Gear who seems to be in everything else now - presenting Crufts, filling in for Richard&Judy, that sort of thing. A celebrity wh0re, really...


maximum01
 
Top Gear is a really good TV show, even if i'm not overly keen on the presenters. In many ways Clarkson is the least offensive of that whining snobby trio. They're typical of wealthy foppish ponses who think that talking cars gives them a masculine edge that'll disguise their pampered middle class roots.

As for the content of the programme, as someone else stated they actually give good coverage to cyclists. I remember two episodes where cyclists beat the car under test. One was on a downhill mountain bike being raced through some narrow streets in Italy.

Clarkson's comments about running over cyclists are clearly satirical. Anyone taking that stuff seriously needs to chill out.


Johnny_Monkey
 
Clarkson's comments about running over cyclists are clearly satirical. Anyone taking that stuff seriously needs to chill out.


It's not the cyclists I'm worried about - it's his moronic petrol-head audience.


jhota
 
i don't think Clarkson's audience is moronic. petrolheads, sure. but to read his columns and understand his TV rants, you need to have more than just a basic vocabulary. edumacated people are much less likely to be sheep, imho.

plus the morons don't read Top Gear. they're too busy buying Max Power and Fast Car.


dhutch
 
Clarkson has an ego thats bigger than the empirestate.
- HOWEVER, topgear is an amazing program, and he is amazing on it.
- I didnt see the episode in question, but im quite sure it was said in a tongne-in-cheak manner and not as a serouse put down.

Get out more people!!



Daniel


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