Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - fixed-gear.net

http://fixed-gear.net/
i got a email from these guys, anyone got a opinion.

thanx

That frame was the subject of a thread earlier.
I think people on here know them.

i did a search and found nothing.

No idea what to search.
But the thread jist was people (myself included) questioning the logic of producing yet another black "cro-mo" track frame verse something new or different.

Here: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=187619&highlight=black+frame

I like how their selling point is that riding a fixed gear frame will "show them that you're ballsy."

show them youre ballsy!

ah.. beat to it.. pretty much sums it all up for me

I emailed back and forth w/ Ernesto regarding availability of larger frames. Seems like a good guy and is enthusiastic about what he's doing, which is providing another inexpensive entry point into fixed gear cycling. I can't think of a single bad thing about that.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, there will also be brown available in addition to black. "Black Hole" and "Brown Star" are the names of the colors... I think I see a theme...

Brown will be available?
Well, ****.
I think he just sold me.

Looks a lot like the Iro mark V without the bottle cage thingies.

does ernesto have a pink seven track bike?

Only comes in three frame sizes...?

http://fixed-gear.net/
i got a email from these guys, anyone got a opinion.

Yeah - opinions are like bums - everyone's got one.

I emailed back and forth w/ Ernesto regarding availability of larger frames. Seems like a good guy and is enthusiastic about what he's doing, which is providing another inexpensive entry point into fixed gear cycling. I can't think of a single bad thing about that.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, there will also be brown available in addition to black. "Black Hole" and "Brown Star" are the names of the colors... I think I see a theme...
Ernesto is a mainstay on the mtbr.com singlespeed board. He's a fixture of the Singlespeed MTB scene. I got the impression that he's basically putting together this order of frames and stuff as a labor of love, because he wanted to get some bikes out there. He had a thread (not unlike Kogswell's) that asked people what they wanted in a fixed gear frame, and put together a bike based on that. This is it.

next 2 projects: rain beater, polo bike. next after that, i might just build up one of these frames. if i can score a cheaper one on ebay or Cl, it'll be a contest, but i like the sound of this dude/company.

what's the point of having a) rear brake mount and b) no cable braze-ons?

That's a pretty good point.
I guess one can always zip-tie cables to the frame but one can't just drill a rear bridge for a brake.
So, it's set up MORE for brakeless but does give you the option of the rear brake.

Anybody else think this it is unneccesary, posturing and stupid:

"Drilled for a brake (if you need one)"

Like, uh, just cuz our frames have brake holes doesn't mean that we're not cool, like riding brakeless 52/13. Yeah. Did I mention that we use chrome bags and drink pbr?

Losers...

Dude don't know much about fixed.

Check out the contradition. Similar, but not the same. Then never heard of them? WTF!

http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=1776949&postcount=5

ernesto is from Wisconsin?

This is not about trendyness, its about lifestyle

wahahhahahah

polo bike?

yeah...suicide hub on a mtb...something that's basically just for riding around in a small area while drinking a lot of pbr and swinging mallets around. like polo with ultra-beaters instead of horses...not something you really want a nice bike for.

what's the point of having a) rear brake mount and b) no cable braze-ons?

SOMA Rush has a similar set-up. There are plenty of roadie types who have to have two brakes or want to run SS. However, most folks are going to be brakeless or running just a front brake. They probably don't care that the rear bridge is drilled but will care if theres cable guides ruining the lines.

Its a design compromise.

It also means you can splash out for some vintage Campagnolo cable clips :)

what's the point of having a) rear brake mount and b) no cable braze-ons?

you're not supposed to use cables anymore. it's all about electromagnetic beams these days.

ernesto is from Wisconsin?
yep, he was at MMI 5 for a bit at the start but he had his kid with him so he couldent race. i am working out a possible deal with him so people cen get the frame in any color they want for an extra $30-40 and he is also offering more sizes now after seeing the reaction to the bike. i think it will be 52-54-56-58-60 or something to that effect. btw i threw a leg over the prototype over the weekend and it looks real nice, the frame was 6cm to big for me so i cant say much more than that. some built up pics are over here www.bigwhiskeymtb.com in the FG/SS forum.

Dude don't know much about fixed.

Check out the contradition. Similar, but not the same. Then never heard of them? WTF!

http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=1776949&postcount=5
How does not having heard of the Bareknuckle make him unknowledgeable about fixed-gear bicycling? If he had, would it make the bike better?

polo bike?

Bike polo here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/85055809@N00/sets/72057594114451714/

and here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chimblysweep/sets/1689213/

what's the point of having a) rear brake mount and b) no cable braze-ons?


that's not unique to his bikes. My fuji track (04) came with a brake hole in the rear and no braze ons. The people i know that use a rear use zip ties.

"cooler than your roomate"? uh, i have my own place.:) :rolleyes: :eek: :)

This is all starting to sound suspiciously like that story about lobsters in a lobster trap.

m.

Tell it again!

There is a story that we Maritimers like to tell - perhaps apocryphal, perhaps not - of a group of lobsters trapped in a lobster trap. After sitting in the trap for an interminable number of days, one lobster - perhaps a bit more spry, ornery or wily than the others - decides to claw his way to the top of the trap and see if he can't find his way out. The lobster soon discovers that there is no door on the trap and he and all the other lobsters are free to leave whenever they want. He turns around to offer a friendly claw to the other lobsters so they can all escape the piney confines of the trap but discovers - much to his surprise and chagrin - that instead of accepting his help and rising to the top, the lobsters at the bottom are only interested in yanking our homarine protagonist back into the trap and blocking the path to the exit.

edit: I misspelled "wily."

There is a story that we Maritimers like to tell - perhaps apocryphal, perhaps not - of a group of lobsters trapped in a lobster trap. After sitting in the trap for an interminable number of days, one lobster - perhaps a bit more spry, ornery or wiley than the others - decides to claw his way to the top of the trap and see if he can't find his way out. The lobster soon discovers that there is no door on the trap and he and all the other lobsters are free to leave whenever they want. He turns around to offer a friendly claw to the other lobsters so they can all escape the piney confines of the trap but discovers - much to his surprise and chagrin - that instead of accepting his help and rising to the top, the lobsters at the bottom are only interested in yanking our homarine protagonist back into the trap and blocking the path to the exit.

Ha Ha!

This story reminds me why I've stopped having political discussions with conservatives. ;)

There is a story that we Maritimers like to tell - perhaps apocryphal, perhaps not - of a group of lobsters trapped in a lobster trap. After sitting in the trap for an interminable number of days, one lobster - perhaps a bit more spry, ornery or wily than the others - decides to claw his way to the top of the trap and see if he can't find his way out. The lobster soon discovers that there is no door on the trap and he and all the other lobsters are free to leave whenever they want. He turns around to offer a friendly claw to the other lobsters so they can all escape the piney confines of the trap but discovers - much to his surprise and chagrin - that instead of accepting his help and rising to the top, the lobsters at the bottom are only interested in yanking our homarine protagonist back into the trap and blocking the path to the exit.

Ha Ha!

This story reminds me why I've stopped having political discussions with conservatives. ;)


ha this story remids me of why i went to live in a cave in the woods and became a hermit:)

yep, he was at MMI 5 for a bit at the start but he had his kid with him so he couldent race. i am working out a possible deal with him so people cen get the frame in any color they want for an extra $30-40 and he is also offering more sizes now after seeing the reaction to the bike. i think it will be 52-54-56-58-60 or something to that effect. btw i threw a leg over the prototype over the weekend and it looks real nice, the frame was 6cm to big for me so i cant say much more than that. some built up pics are over here www.bigwhiskeymtb.com in the FG/SS forum.

I would totally rock a brown one.

Bike polo here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/85055809@N00/sets/72057594114451714/

and here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chimblysweep/sets/1689213/

and here (portland's site) http://www.axlesofevil.org

that story reminds me of why i never go into a lobster trap.

There are times
When you find
Lobsters in a bucket
Can't climb out
Why won't they climb away?
Because other lobsters
Pull them down

There are times
When you find
Lobsters in a bucket
Can't climb out
Why won't they climb away?
Because other lobsters
Pull them down

Buddy loves Blink 182.

How does not having heard of the Bareknuckle make him unknowledgeable about fixed-gear bicycling? If he had, would it make the bike better?

I think the point (not knowing bareknuckle) is that these bikes are clearly (correct me if Im wrong) imported taiwanese frames, hence he's doing a ring-a-round to generate orders prior to do a mass purchase to get a cheap cost price ie 100+ frames.

If you're going to go to 'market', he would have researched what's available, and what competitors currently offer, and the 'replying poster' was referring to this, no?

Does this mean anyone of BF can get them at the 'discounted' price?

How does not having heard of the Bareknuckle make him unknowledgeable about fixed-gear bicycling? If he had, would it make the bike better?

Never said he had no knowledge, just not much.
He knows what a fixedgear is. Would it make it better?
Maybe, maybe not. It could only help to know the other players in your chosen market.
The average fixed rider has heard of EAI and probably the BareKnuckle frame.

I'd bet more fixed gear riders in this country (and he is from Wisconsin) would have no idea was EAI is, let alone Bareknuckle frames. Not to mention the museum of NJS, etc. This little group here is more fanatical about the details of the culture than the average anybody on a bike. Just saying. Rip him or praise him, you have to respect the energy and effort going into this enterprise.

Let's leave the Wisconsin jabs out of this, please...;)

No, no, no. I'm from Wisconsin. I'm a freakin' Badger, baby!

My point is the urban BF following fixed gear crowd takes risks in make assumptions about the "average" fixed gear rider (whoever that is). And, Yellow Jersey in Madison is one of the best fixed gear shops in the country.

We just don't care about the some of the same stuff. I'll probably never see, in person, a Barknuckle frame in my life.

Without BFFG just wouldn't have the exposure.

I'd bet more fixed gear riders in this country (and he is from Wisconsin) would have no idea was EAI is, let alone Bareknuckle frames. Not to mention the museum of NJS, etc. This little group here is more fanatical about the details of the culture than the average anybody on a bike. Just saying. Rip him or praise him, you have to respect the energy and effort going into this enterprise.

Not knocking his business acumen.
Just the similar, but not the same statement to an unseen,unheard of product.

Oh, I know - I didn't mean to be chippy with the comment. I was just reflecting on my own puny lack of knowledge on things fixed and how punier it would be without BFFG. Props to the peeps.

Buddy loves Blink 182.

Aquabats dude, Aquabats.

He's a pretty cool guy from my short e-mails back and forth. He'll send you a pdf of the frame specs if you ask. He's putting some money out to invest in this thing, so I'm sure he put the rear brake mount in there for variety -- it's more marketable, and I think there are some areas where brakes are required. I don't know where those places are though. He said the frames will be available end of July early August, if I remember correctly.

Looks like a solid frame though. I'm strongly considering one, though I don't know if I want to wait until towards the end of summer for the frame. If the price stays right, I may get one then, since my girlfriend is moving down around then and she'll need something.

to really succeed in this entry level track frame business you need the hot colors! not brown and black..
"we only sell track bikes in neon and fluorescents." now that would sell me.