Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - A Date With Mayonnaise

This Friday (4/28) I will be hosting a Bike Day on the loading dock of the 800 N. Michigan Ave building. The loading dock is right across the street from Pippins (that stinkhole of a bar). Startiing at 1 PM until 3:30PM you can stop by for a free bicycle tune up and a bit of chain lube. Nothing fancy, just in and out. Although it's free, I'll have a mayo jar for any donation you care to offer to help support Katrina victims.

mmmmm... mayonnaise

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Just put together the playlist for this Friday’s event. The theme will be mid to late 80’s R&B/Dance music. This was the last great era of R&B before the Hip Hop culture took over and destroyed any semblance of real music. With a few exceptions, I hate Hip Hop and I don’t care who knows it. Give me a song written and sung by an artist with a beginning, a middle, and an end instead of stolen samples from past masters and histrionic phrasing and gangster posturing.

So when you stop by you’ll be hearing lots of The SOS Band, Cameo, Midnight Star, Prince, The Whispers, Peoples & Yarbrough, Imagination, The Gap Band, Atlantic Starr, Dazz Band, New Edition/Bobby Brown, Teena Marie, Shannon, Klymaxx, Vanity 6, Mary Jane Girls.

So come by and get your groove on.

Wet My Whistle.

I'm testing positive for the funk. I'd glady pee in anyone's cup.

You had me until your rant about hip hop being nothing more than "stolen samples from past masters and histrionic phrasing and gangster posturing". And you prefer Bobby Brown? Hip hop changed America for the better, and declaring your loathing for a huge and varied genre is like musical bigotry.

Exactly how did hip-hop change America for the better? I would love to see your imperial evidence of that fact.

Ya'll got 99 problems.

PS - Katrina was so last year.

Imperial evidence? Empirical. And no, there haven't been any controlled experiments demonstrating my contention.

Rap and Hip Hop gave voice to a generation of African Americans who continue to be marginalized in America. It told America what was happening in the inner cities and brought questions of race, violence, and oppression into the mainstream debate. Look at Public Enemy and N.W.A. for examples. Not only that, it's proved to be a durable and flexible art form that's given rise to a ton of innovative and progressive artists.

I don't have to defend hip hop as an art form. It's obvious to anyone who's been paying attention that it's worthwhile, creative, varied, and important.

If, with a few exceptions, hating Hip Hop makes me a musical bigot, then I am proudly a Musical Bigot.

Excuse my typo, there have been studies done, please refer to the library. I'm not argueing that hip hop isn't a worthwhile art form but stating that hip hop and the blind commercialism that its now preaches (with exceptions ie: dead prez) are, if anything, a hinderance to the advance of the american ideal.

Still, dollar days in new orleans, and good luck on the fundraiser I hope it kicks arse

i f ing hate mayonnaise.

Rap and Hip Hop gave voice to a generation of African Americans who continue to be marginalized in America.

And like all music, it got commercialized and glamourized whatever aspects of culture execs thought would make the most money (in this case greed, misogyny, and violence).I wish more good indy artists got air, instead of these soulless buffoons we get stuck with. I better keep wishin cause it isn't going to happen.

edit: and what Offhoff said!

But I don't think you can discount an entire musical genre simply because the majority of it's mainstream branch may be soulless. I don't even like hip hop, really, but I can plainly see the impact and importance of its roots and many of its more underground artists, the latter of which I know very little about.

What 'bout grime?

Exactly how did hip-hop change America for the better? I would love to see your imperial evidence of that fact.

More 12"s instead of 30cms.

HAWWWWWWWWWWWW HAW

But I don't think you can discount an entire musical genre simply because the majority of it's mainstream branch may be soulless. I don't even like hip hop, really, but I can plainly see the impact and importance of its roots and many of its more underground artists, the latter of which I know very little about.

I totally agree. There is no reason to say, "I hate hip hop/country/rock/gospel", cause how can you hate a form of expression? Maybe you don't like the entire spectrum of pop artists within a genre, but I bet everyone would like one or two artists from any genre. They just have little chance of getting exposed to the right artist.

American Idol must be stopped.

Mayonnaise-colored Benz? I push Miracle Whips.

Game over.

I didn't say Chingy is a progressive truth-teller. I said the genre has done good things for America. Speaking out about what's wrong with this country IS advancing the 'American ideal'.

I f ing love Mayonnaise

And, finally, you can be damn sure that hip hop has done more good for America than Bobby Brown and the Gap Band ever did.

A+ would read again.

Ya'll got 99 problems.

PS - Katrina was so last year.

tell that to the people who used to live on my street and are still in houston.

Whoops, sorry I forgot to add my sarcastic html!

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One thing's for sure: hip hop ruined this thread.

I love Hip Hop, but you better have some Freddy Jackson ready
to go when it's time for the "quiet storm".

"Micki Free is not a girl, aiight!" - Charlie Murphy

What 'bout grime?

grime's great, hip-hop's great, r&b's great, soul's great, mayo's great....


to all the hip-hop haters, just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's bad. it just makes you look like fools. turn off the radio and mtv and listen to the real thing.

grime's great, hip-hop's great, r&b's great, soul's great, mayo's great....


to all the hip-hop haters, just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's bad. it just makes you look like fools. turn off the radio and mtv and listen to the real thing.

This guy wears the clock so HE KNOWS THE TIME.

Deltron 3030 is an epic album by Ice Cube's cousin Del. His music is far from mainstream... far far far.

a great excerpt from that album is 'battle song'

Interplanetary adversaries battling for supremacy
Sounds like a good way to build up my infamy
Soon as Automator sent for me
We headed over to receive our registration forms from the galactic embassy
(Yes may I help you)

Remember me
To escape a global panic we had to intercede
(Oh you're here for the battle forms)
Yeah can we get them for free
(I'm afraid not you'll have to pay the entry fee)
It was worth a try when we 1st arrived on mercury
Gravity adjustment must then
Step up contestant
Number 12, I was 13 he started bursting ammunition that wasn't working
His rudimentary technical abilities couldn't kill me
Not me for a loop
But I can still breath
He had the crowd going by appearance
Here comes the anticipated interference from his squad and guards
I bust back with on slough of Hydrothermal clod that burnt they're third eye
The out num but I come with heat & trigger a massive explosion to the beat
They hit me compressed air
Left my chest bare
My sonic stun gun takes em out by the next snare

We won the bout just as the oxygen tanks were running out
so we're back to the ship
Pull a map from a blip
Manipulate the cursor
Recharge our essentials set the coordinates then flow
Through a trillion miles of space with style embrace
Next stop Pluto to rock these new flows
Atmosphere methane be strategic like a chest game
Leaves this mc with chest pains
I had to battle a shadow in his black life form
He dazzled me added 3 points to his score
Engulfed my microphone with darkness added 3 more
The panel started to roar
I had to find the core of his power
He stretched his text causing me to black out
It took my DAT out
I couldn't back out
It took out the sound man I'm taking a pounding
I bust out an accupella that's astounding
Project a uni-beam through his spleen
Pulled out my x-ray cannons to disintegrate the phantom
It's not fine my cell structure ruptured
His form will get bust up into clusters
Shadowy masses spread to the greater darkness of outer space
Now I'm placed 1st among artist

Serve due more space travel
Computer
(Yes deltron)
What have you
Next destination
The colony of Sicilia an earth colony
This is appealing
Hyperspace
With mic in place we was off breathing frost
in a void thinking what if we had lost
Ha
Entertain an ignorant thought
Land Ho, Sicilia we entered the port
Fill out a few forms then we meet our challenger named qusar
(No matter who you are I'll handle ya)
He's a real charmer
I threw on my pla-steel armor
He wants to absorb the talents that I worked so hard for
A bitter hard core
I busted a few shots and opened him like a car door
He was a quadruped, four arms
He hit me with four fore arms made of bronze
I said Automater play the song
(You got it)
Was the theme
Made a slight alteration in my scheme
Set him up with a condition beam with his double team
Leaned toward his dome piece and reamed the back of his neck
With a cranial disruption siphon
Squeezed out his brain like juice
Like a python

My Prerogative, Every Little Step, Early In The Morning, Party Train are great songs that have brought broad smiles and groovy times to people of different colors all over the world. They have brought people together and eased racial tensions by simply generating good times. Blacks and Whites dancing and grooving together.

Sometimes the best part of music is having simple pure fun. To be alleviated from daily problems for just a little bit. They have made America, and the world, a better place.

Mayo, I agree with you. There are great things about dance music with a good attitude that makes people happy. I'm really all for that. I actually spend a good deal of time listening to electronic music that is in large part derived from (or is) disco; DFA, Astralwerks, Get Physical, etc. So I'm with you, and you and I could probably have a great time together with this kind of music.

But I would really like it if you would acknowledge that rap and hip hop AS A GENRE is not all gangsta posturing and rip-offs of old soul records, and that there are things that can be said through rap and hip hop- about race, about violence, about class, about America- that are of value.

Because, in the end, we live in the same city, and will probably meet sometime soon. And I don't want to have to bussacap in yo azz.

Imperial evidence? Empirical. And no, there haven't been any controlled experiments demonstrating my contention.

Rap and Hip Hop gave voice to a generation of African Americans who continue to be marginalized in America. It told America what was happening in the inner cities and brought questions of race, violence, and oppression into the mainstream debate. Look at Public Enemy and N.W.A. for examples. Not only that, it's proved to be a durable and flexible art form that's given rise to a ton of innovative and progressive artists.

I don't have to defend hip hop as an art form. It's obvious to anyone who's been paying attention that it's worthwhile, creative, varied, and important.


+ mother****in one

What's this thread about? See ya' on Friday

Mayo, your forgot about his contribution to Ghostbusters 2. "On Our Own"

Just put together the playlist for this Friday’s event. The theme will be mid to late 80’s R&B/Dance music. This was the last great era of R&B before the Hip Hop culture took over and destroyed any semblance of real music. With a few exceptions, I hate Hip Hop and I don’t care who knows it. Give me a song written and sung by an artist with a beginning, a middle, and an end instead of stolen samples from past masters and histrionic phrasing and gangster posturing.

So when you stop by you’ll be hearing lots of The SOS Band, Cameo, Midnight Star, Prince, The Whispers, Peoples & Yarbrough, Imagination, The Gap Band, Atlantic Starr, Dazz Band, New Edition/Bobby Brown, Teena Marie, Shannon, Klymaxx, Vanity 6, Mary Jane Girls.

So come by and get your groove on.

Wet My Whistle.

I'm testing positive for the funk. I'd glady pee in anyone's cup.


change. viola wills

Sure, I can admit that stuff. I think Hip Hop has value. But, as it built it’s empire to what it has become today, it has squeezed out more tradition approaches to music that I value much higher.

Don’t forget, the racial issues that Hip Hop addresses are not new. R&B, Soul, Blues artists have been doing it for years. Chuck Berry’s “Brown Eyed Handsome Man” for instance, was supposed to be titled Brown Skinned Handsome Man. It changes the way you hear the song. Listen to the Can You Dig It boxed set from Rhino, over and over you’ll hear examples of the same. Listen to the old Atlantic records. It’s all there.

What I appreciate more is how artfully it was rendered. Yes, we’ve come a long way since and people don’t have to disguise their opinions but to my ears the music has suffered.

I don’t like Opera either.

As for busting that cap, you’ve got to catch me first. Ask around, I’m fast as hell.

I'm going to ask Cardstock if we can request opponents in the NoNOS. I'm calling you out.

Deltron 3030 is an epic album by Ice Cube's cousin Del. His music is far from mainstream... far far far.

a great excerpt from that album is 'battle song'


is that you Patrick?

Can't wait to meet you all at the NoNos!
Get ready to kick my ass!

Hey, Mayo... I was your last "customer" on Friday, and since you didn't have a mayo jar out for donations, you asked me to do a favor for a stranger before sundown. Well, didn't see anybody who needed help on the way home, and my family, with whom I spent the evening, is pretty well acquainted with me... so today I went down to Working Bikes, bought a 1972 Raleigh Supreme for trips to the El station from my house, and made a cash donation on top of the purchase price... hope that suits.

Thanks again for tuning up my bike...

best,

P.