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I was once again told to "get the beep off the road and to use the sidewalk ______" I'm starting to get very discouraged.
Note:_____ equals not a very nice name
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Fergetaboutit.
I was once again told to "get the beep off the road and to use the sidewalk ______" I'm starting to get very discouraged.
Note:_____ equals not a very nice name
Lots of morons out there. No need to feel you should actually do things differently because one yells at you
Ya what Scarry said. Don't let someone who does'nt know about the law, tell you the law...
It's nothing special - hardly worth a post about it. Don't let it stress you out this much!
Makes me wanna yell... "get off MY road and go use the freeway... "
makes me wanna yell "Stop breathing my air!!!" ;)
thanks guys,
it just seems like lately this has been happening once or twice a week, it just bummed out my ride today.
thanks guys,
it just seems like lately this has been happening once or twice a week, it just bummed out my ride today.
Scream back. I always do.
What state do you live in?
Colorado Springs, CO
what do you yell back. Im looking for something witty to say thats quick enough for a passing motorist to hear
If your state is like mine you can say (if possible) "look it up on line, I can ride in the road"
Yeah, ignore them. But can you describe the road/situation?
Yeah, ignore them. But can you describe the road/situation?
it was a 4 lane road (2 in each direction) speed limit 35 (I was going 18). Not really residential but not highway either, there were cars parked on the side (not blocking the right lane). I had to take the entire right lane due to the width.
Just tell them to go f*ck their mother. anything more eloquent or witty than that will be lost on those neanderthals. Its been happening to me too lately.
Just tell them to go f*ck their mother. anything more eloquent or witty than that will be lost on those neanderthals. Its been happening to me too lately.
Read my mind.
it was a 4 lane road (2 in each direction) speed limit 35 (I was going 18). Not really residential but not highway either, there were cars parked on the side (not blocking the right lane). I had to take the entire right lane due to the width.
Been there, done that, got yelled at too. Some folks are just jerks. Best to ignore... but hard to repress the feeling to yell back or flip them off.
Doesn't matter what the laws are... too many drivers are just into themselves... driving too fast, not sharing the road, radios blasting too loud, extra loud tailpipes, and generally poor behaviour.
There is no immediate solution... but it sure "burns" when it happens. Amazing how "tough" some folks become while inside their 3000 pound coccoons.
Colorado Springs, CO
what do you yell back. Im looking for something witty to say thats quick enough for a passing motorist to hearI'll post the bicycle laws when i get a chance. In the meantime, in my opinion, yelling back just escalates. If you ignore them, they just go on their way. If you answer, it escalates into something more than just an idiot briefly expressing his ignorance.
I'll post the bicycle laws when i get a chance. In the meantime, in my opinion, yelling back just escalates. If you ignore them, they just go on their way. If you answer, it escalates into something more than just an idiot briefly expressing his ignorance.
+1
many drivers do not know the laws as they apply to bicycles. I didn't, really, until I started reading this forum and then looked them up. But you never know what kind of psycho you are dealing with, so my advice is to NOT yell back. for your own safety.
Last time that happened to me, I yelled back, "SHARE THE ROAD!"
I think if it would happen again, I would call 9-1-1 on my cell phone and report them as a possible drunk driver. Give them the license plate #, location, and direction of travel. Based on the fact that sober people typically don't yell at cyclists for riding their bikes on the road.
Sounds like you did the right thing. Too many new riders will allow themselves to be squeezed into the doorzone, often with painful or fatal results. Taking the lane is the best bet. As for the motorist who yelled at you, well it's just TS for him.
(TS is an old Latin abbreviation.)
Just remembe that you're better than them, so whatever they say makes no difference. From the few details you gave, it sounded like you were riding properly. If the lane is too narrow to share safely, you have no choice but to take it all. We all do the same thing and once in a while we all get yelled at.
Last time that happened to me, I yelled back, "SHARE THE ROAD!"
I think if it would happen again, I would call 9-1-1 on my cell phone and report them as a possible drunk driver. Give them the license plate #, location, and direction of travel. Based on the fact that sober people typically don't yell at cyclists for riding their bikes on the road.
I'm not sure, but I think this is a criminal offense--filing a false report.
I would try to maintain some perspective. Yelling is rude, but it's not a crime. Yell back if it makes you feel better, but don't escalate things any further.
Yes, yelling back is not a good idea. It will only escalate the situation, especially if there is more than one of the brain stems in the car/truck.
Know your respective state's bicycle laws. Memorize them. Here is a link you may find helpful.
http://bicyclecolo.org/page.cfm?PageID=45.
Utah's driver's license manual has a well-written chapter cycling, and here is my favorite quote from it:
"Drivers of motor vehicles must treat bicycle
riders the same as drivers of other vehicles. Bicyclists are not out of place on the
roadway - they are part of the traffic and share the road with other drivers."
I'm not sure, but I think this is a criminal offense--filing a false report.
I would try to maintain some perspective. Yelling is rude, but it's not a crime. Yell back if it makes you feel better, but don't escalate things any further.
Who said anything about filing a false report? I'm talking about reporting a potentially intoxicated motorist.
"9-1-1, what's the emergency,"
"Yes, I'm calling to report what may possibly be an intoxicated motorist."
"What makes you think the motorist is intoxicated?"
"He's yelling at people out his window as he's driving past them."
I've called in a number of "Possibly intoxicated" motorists, purely based on their behaviour - swerving into oncoming traffic, driving erratically, and yes, even yelling out of their windows. The police take this very seriously because if the motorist is in fact intoxicated (which he very well may be), you could save someones life.
Sane, sober people do not yell at cyclists; I assure you.
i like to yell back. it gives me some satisfaction. my personal favorite retort is "die in a fire!!" because it is quick to say, and really gets my feelings across :) Another effective, but riskier one is "i hope you get cancer!". i don't really like using it, though, because it just isn't nice. plus my dog died of cancer years ago, and i wouldn't want to associate my awesome dog with jerk drivers like that.
"Drivers of motor vehicles must treat bicycle
riders the same as drivers of other vehicles."
... which means you're going to get yelled at, just like other drivers. :) The only difference with a bike is that you can actually hear it.
Chin up, at least you're not the one having an infarction over something as silly as waiting a few seconds to pass a cyclist.
Yes, yelling back is not a good idea. It will only escalate the situation, especially if there is more than one of the brain stems in the car/truck.
Know your respective state's bicycle laws. Memorize them. Here is a link you may find helpful.
http://bicyclecolo.org/page.cfm?PageID=45.
Utah's driver's license manual has a well-written chapter cycling, and here is my favorite quote from it:
"Drivers of motor vehicles must treat bicycle
riders the same as drivers of other vehicles. Bicyclists are not out of place on the
roadway - they are part of the traffic and share the road with other drivers."
I love this response... I have known and carried copies of my state laws for over 15 years... I now carry wallet sized copies of the laws.
I am well informed.
THE MOTORISTS ARE NOT!
And they don't care... at least the idiots that yell and honk at cyclists don't care. This is not a regular occurrence for me, but when it happens, it always is the same idiot message coming from the same idiot type of drivers thinking the same idiot type of thoughts.
I have handed out copies of the laws, talked and even yelled at drivers about the laws, and have come to the conclusion that I must have to train each and every idiot driver out there. (remember idiots are few and far between, but they DO exist)
Again, it is not as if this happens every day, but when it does it clearly shows that the "few and stupid" are just that.
I've been practicing selective deafness since my last incident. Lost my cool with a motorist.
I have the technique down for dealing with my toddler and his cousins. I'm still working on transferring it to cycling.
I've been practicing selective deafness since my last incident. Lost my cool with a motorist.
I have the technique down for dealing with my toddler and his cousins. I'm still working on transferring it to cycling.
In a strange way, the yelling almost begs to be blanked out with a loud ipod... then we cyclists would be in the same situation as the motorists with their windows rolled up and their music blaring... who knows, perhaps it would make commuting much more pleasent... to be as oblivious as a motorist. ;)
I honestly believe we need to hear traffic to be aware of all the things going on around us... so in reality I do NOT recommend the ipod approach.
I will normally ignore it, but sometimes I just have to yell. A simple "F--- You" generally expresses my sentiments nicely. Accompanied by the appropriate hand gesturre of course!
I've been practicing selective deafness since my last incident. Lost my cool with a motorist.
I have the technique down for dealing with my toddler and his cousins. I'm still working on transferring it to cycling.
I'm working on that technique at work. I'm afraid if I don't master it some serious storming out will have to be done.
I like the selective deafness idea, although, I really havent been yelled at by any motorists yet. I on the other hand have yelled at a couple of motorists myself, mainly for driving directly in the bike lane so I could not pass. When they realized what they were doing and what I was yelling at as I pointed to the lines and the big "bicycle" graphic painted on the pavement, they seemed to apologise.
I think in some areas, there are just so many cyclists that motorists just really dont have much of a choice other than to deal with the bikes, and those riding them. Im fortunate to live in that kind of area.
Yelling is the least of my concerns and for me results in less than a blink or more commonly amusement at the silly things folks say.
In fact, I usually find a yelling motorist is passing with care. I'd much rather have than than a careless/unattentive or an aggressive motorist close passing me.
Al
Look at it this way: getting yelled at to "get on the sidewalk" is one more excuse to rebel against that advice...
...you are now a full member of the unofficial bike commuter club. Getting yelled at seems like as good as any "right of passage" I know of.
Yet, I still wonder about this annoying desire to educate the poor cyclist who dares to ride in the street.
Why do they feel the need?
Agree with most, yelling back may release tension in you but won't communicate anything to motorist and may cause you harm.
Concern is the regularity this is happening. If it's regular drivers, note their license and report them to police.
Your positioning problem is A__ narrow road, and B__ parked cars that have to be avoided because of risk of doors opening suddenly. If the stream of parked cars is not continuous, you can wieve in and out. If continuous, the best you can do is ride as close to the cars as possible with about 2 feet clearance for opened doors. I wouldn't ride in the middle of the lane, but would ride about where the right tire would go of an auto in the same lane.
Other alternatives would be considering changing route or time of commutes. Sometimes it's not the route but the time you are out there. The commute times often have too many type A jerks and adjusting by 15 min or 30min can make a world of difference.
Agree with most, yelling back may release tension in you but won't communicate anything to motorist and may cause you harm.
Concern is the regularity this is happening. If it's regular drivers, note their license and report them to police.
Your positioning problem is A__ narrow road, and B__ parked cars that have to be avoided because of risk of doors opening suddenly. If the stream of parked cars is not continuous, you can wieve in and out. If continuous, the best you can do is ride as close to the cars as possible with about 2 feet clearance for opened doors. I wouldn't ride in the middle of the lane, but would ride about where the right tire would go of an auto in the same lane.
Other alternatives would be considering changing route or time of commutes. Sometimes it's not the route but the time you are out there. The commute times often have too many type A jerks and adjusting by 15 min or 30min can make a world of difference.
I would NOT recommend the 2 foot clearance next to parked cars unless you are riding at a walking pace.
thanks guys,
it just seems like lately this has been happening once or twice a week, it just bummed out my ride today.
Same thing happens to me on at least a weekly basis. I try to tell myself to just let it go, but I just get so mad that some idiot in a car is threatening me that I can't help my self from suggesting that he do something physically impossible with his anatomy and the car he is driving.
I rant for a few seconds, which I'm not proud of, I'm mad for a few minutes more, but usually by the time I get home I'm over it.
But definitely do not let them intimidate you into changing your riding style.
Agree with most, yelling back may release tension in you but won't communicate anything to motorist and may cause you harm.
Concern is the regularity this is happening. If it's regular drivers, note their license and report them to police.
Your positioning problem is A__ narrow road, and B__ parked cars that have to be avoided because of risk of doors opening suddenly. If the stream of parked cars is not continuous, you can wieve in and out. If continuous, the best you can do is ride as close to the cars as possible with about 2 feet clearance for opened doors. I wouldn't ride in the middle of the lane, but would ride about where the right tire would go of an auto in the same lane.
Other alternatives would be considering changing route or time of commutes. Sometimes it's not the route but the time you are out there. The commute times often have too many type A jerks and adjusting by 15 min or 30min can make a world of difference.
When biking on a street with marked bike lanes, I bike right on the line. At least on the streets that have them here, the bike lanes are usually big enough to almost fully accomodate parked vehicles, while allowing enough space for bikes to pass even with an open car door. The line is usually painted a bout 4 feet from the parked cars, so theres usually enough room to get around an open door without going much out into traffic. There are even a few roads here, where cars are NOT ALLOWED to park on the bike lanes at all. I think Im much more attentive and vigilant when riding in these lanes with parked cars than any other time. Im constantly scanning the row of cars looking for heads in vehicles, or anything that might indicate someone is inside, and if I see that Ill give it an extra wide birth. So far, its worked.
Yet, I still wonder about this annoying desire to educate the poor cyclist who dares to ride in the street.
Why do they feel the need?
Yesterday, a woman in a Suburban honked and yelled at me to get on the MUP. As she passed, it occurred to me that over the past few years, the people who yell requests for me to ride differently (i.e. on the sidewalk or MUP) have been exclusively women, probably in their 30's and 40's. I'm thinking it's a feeling of insecurity that makes them act that way.
Young males also yell, but they tend to just be trying to get a rise out of me (e.g. "FAAAAAGGGG!!!" or something else that has no point). These guys are probably also insecure, just about something else......
Road raging appears to be equal opportunity.
I get yelled at very rarely and I encounter literally thousands of cars on my commute, though most are on the highway and few people yell out there. If you're getting yelled at so often, I wonder if you are unintentionally provoking them somehow. Motorists are like dogs. Act too timid and they simulteneously get nervous and aggressive.
Yell "Read Colorado statute xxx.xx _______!!!" On second thought, leave off _______. They might try to do something stupid.
Fortunately I only experience this every month or two. Maybe more but I can not be bothered to pay attention.
Every so often I hear "fffffffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggg" or something to that effect. I figure they are just jealous and don't look that good in spandex.
If I only could manage to pull in front of them and stand on the pedals. In effect forcing them to look at my rear all spandexed up. :p
Who said anything about filing a false report? I'm talking about reporting a potentially intoxicated motorist.
"9-1-1, what's the emergency,"
"Yes, I'm calling to report what may possibly be an intoxicated motorist."
"What makes you think the motorist is intoxicated?"
"He's yelling at people out his window as he's driving past them."
I've called in a number of "Possibly intoxicated" motorists, purely based on their behaviour - swerving into oncoming traffic, driving erratically, and yes, even yelling out of their windows. The police take this very seriously because if the motorist is in fact intoxicated (which he very well may be), you could save someones life.
Sane, sober people do not yell at cyclists; I assure you.
Are you joking?
People yell at people all the time, in all kinds of situations. It's a little tacky, but it doesn't do any harm unless there's a baby sleeping nearby.
Just smile real big, yell "Hey, F*ck you very much!!* give another big smile and yell "CIAO" while giving them an exuberant Italian wave in their mirror.
If their heads don't explode immediately, they'll run off the road trying to figure out what just happend.
Don't forget to smile. :D
Yet, I still wonder about this annoying desire to educate the poor cyclist who dares to ride in the street.
Why do they feel the need?
Sometimes I feel the need to educate the poor cager who dares to drive in the street! ;)
Yesterday, a woman in a Suburban honked and yelled at me .......
Say no more. Yelling at cyclists used to be strictly a male thing, but females have caught up. Don't forget "Donna". You've all seen Donna, right? She's the one with the big, 1980's style hair, make-up that suggests she's a horror movie actress, and driving her boyfriends Camaro/Firebird.
Say no more. Yelling at cyclists used to be strictly a male thing, but females have caught up. Don't forget "Donna". You've all seen Donna, right? She's the one with the big, 1980's style hair, make-up that suggests she's a horror movie actress, and driving her boyfriends Camaro/Firebird.
Beantown eh? Heck Donna's here in San Diego... and that Camaro is getting a bit old... just like her beehive hairdo. :eek:
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