Bicycle Mechanics - I started volunteering at my lbs today and ...

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I would like to know some tips the lbs would like me to know but may not want to have to tell me.
I went in today and told them I was interested in helping out at the store, without any pay, so that I could learn from my mechanic about bikes and how to fix them. Everyone at the shop is great, all very friendly, and they also realise I am not a local. The language difference isn't an issue.
So, I do know that if I'm not being immediately helpful, I should stay out of the way. This I know from working behind a bar.
Any other tips for a wanna-be amateur mechanic?
You might want to start slowly aquiring your own tools. Even though they're all really friendly and everything, they might appreciate it if you could supply some of your own tools like allen wrenches, and metric wrenches and things like that. Just curious, what's your "regular" job. How many hours a week do you plan to "volunteer". If it were me I'd volunteer for like 2 hours and after that I would ask, "Where's the timeclock, and how much do I start out at? :)
powers2b
05-08-06, 12:53 PM
I am surprised they are OK with that.
If you get hurt in the shop they are liable.
Enjoy
Cabrales
05-08-06, 12:59 PM
Looks like Becnal is in Germany. Is it possible people there are not as concerned with liability issues?
Get your own tools, stay out of everyone's way, don't eat all the blueberry muffins, break down the boxes, don't eat all the coffee cake muffins.
Ask questions, but don't be annoying and breathing down everyone's neck.
Retro Grouch
05-08-06, 04:43 PM
Any other tips for a wanna-be amateur mechanic?
Offer to clean all of the yucky chains and chainrings and stuff. The mechanics will love you.
Offer to clean all of the yucky chains and chainrings and stuff. The mechanics will love you.
Definitely. Flat tire fixes could be your friend also. Can't really come up with anything to suppliment what others have said so far.
Since you are working without pay for the benefit of learning, you might want to log your jobs done for the benefit of keeping track of your experience. It is nice to have something to go back to if you have questions. Doing the crap jobs for pay might just be part of the job; you should be looking to see and do more than that if this is on your dime.
My LBS is a giant shop. They are a nation-wide chain across Germany called Bikemax.
They have more tools than I have ever seen before, and many more than 2 of most of the tools. I have only a couple of basic tools, but I'll bring my multi-tool so that at least I'll be able to use allen keys and other stuff without needing theirs. Good tip!
And yes, being outside of America, liability issues aren't a problem. When I asked my mechanic, Volker, if I could help out, he said, "Hell yeah". I asked him if he didn't need to check with the manager first or something. The manager walked in a second later, Volker told him my request, and the manager said, "Hell yeah". I though, well that's settled then! :D
Wil Davis
05-09-06, 03:51 AM
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When I asked my mechanic, Volker, if I could help out, he said, "Hell yeah". I asked him if he didn't need to check with the manager first or something. The manager walked in a second later, Volker told him my request, and the manager said, "Hell yeah"
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Sign in local garage:
Our rates:
We will charge you $50 per hour to fix your car, $75 if you watch, $100 if you help
;)
- Wil
operator
05-09-06, 12:07 PM
Volunteering in a for-profit store? These things can be better learned yourself when you fix your own bike. But hey if you have time to spare...
schwinnderella
05-09-06, 11:02 PM
We will charge you $50 per hour to fix your car, $75 if you watch, $100 if you help
$125.00 if you worked on it before they got it.
AfterThisNap
05-09-06, 11:12 PM
I bet they speak the universal language of beer.
raverson
05-09-06, 11:24 PM
When I asked my mechanic, Volker, if I could help out, he said, "Hell yeah". I asked him if he didn't need to check with the manager first or something. The manager walked in a second later, Volker told him my request, and the manager said, "Hell yeah". I though, well that's settled then! :D[/QUOTE]
:lol: That is funny!
Cool, I learned how to true wheels yesterday. I knew how in theory, but they let me have a go on their fab shop truing stand. And, bonus, they let me true my own wheels as well. Then, the mechanic said to me, "Anytime you wanna fix something on your bike, just roll it on in. It's all well and good learning about bikes in general, but getting to know yours in and out is the way to go."
I thought I had died and went to bike shop heaven. :D
Cool, I learned how to true wheels yesterday. I knew how in theory, but they let me have a go on their fab shop truing stand. And, bonus, they let me true my own wheels as well. Then, the mechanic said to me, "Anytime you wanna fix something on your bike, just roll it on in. It's all well and good learning about bikes in general, but getting to know yours in and out is the way to go."
I thought I had died and went to bike shop heaven. :D
That's how the guys at my shop were to me and now I work there :)
acorn_user
05-12-06, 12:42 PM
If you are in Germany, they will love you if you let them practice their English on you. Just don't let them do it too much, or you'll never polish you German! No one likes to lose the luxury of having an English native speaker to hand :)
Dave
If you are in Germany, they will love you if you let them practice their English on you.
Not everyone is so eager to speak a foreign language in their own country.
KrisPistofferson
05-12-06, 11:54 PM
Be like I was when I started working in an auto shop with no experience-I was clueless, but I was also the guy who was the first to grab a mop or a full garbage can. After a while, I was still clueless, but everyone liked me well enough for my work ethic to want to spend time showing me stuff, and my boss started sending me to schools in Knoxville and Atlanta. Be humble, patient and work hard-it's called a "work ethic," and it's starting to become a rare thing....
bellweatherman
05-13-06, 11:15 PM
Or you could invest about $0 and work on your own bike. There are tons of resources on the internet and you don't have to be "that guy" at the bike shop.
Or you could invest about $0 and work on your own bike. There are tons of resources on the internet and you don't have to be "that guy" at the bike shop.
Thanks for the helpful tip that so well answers my original post. :rolleyes:
ceridwen
05-14-06, 12:09 AM
Or you could invest about $0 and work on your own bike. There are tons of resources on the internet and you don't have to be "that guy" at the bike shop.
Except that working on your own bike requires tools, which a lot of us don't have, taking it from $0 to "way too much to afford" pretty quickly. Not to mention how much easier and more fun it can be to learn from someone who knows what they are doing compared to learning from a website with no one around to help out if you get stuck.
mrkott3r
05-14-06, 01:14 AM
Man what a good opportunity! I wouldnt have the balls to ask my lbs that, I doubt that they would agree either.
If it was me I would shut up, watch, listen, and learn. Be very selective in your questions. Questions piss people off.
Have a great time learning. Im stuck with online stuff, the aussie thread and just tooling around figuring out stuff as I need to.
bellweatherman
05-14-06, 04:36 AM
Except that working on your own bike requires tools, which a lot of us don't have, taking it from $0 to "way too much to afford" pretty quickly. Not to mention how much easier and more fun it can be to learn from someone who knows what they are doing compared to learning from a website with no one around to help out if you get stuck.
You have a bike. Get some tools. Got a computer. Get some software. Wear a bra. Get some panties. And so on.
Man what a good opportunity! I wouldnt have the balls to ask my lbs that, I doubt that they would agree either.
No balls were needed to ask. Was just a question. The worst that could have happened was they say no. In which case, I would have to go buy a computer, software and, apparently, a bra, for some strange reason. ;)
Or you could invest about $0 and work on your own bike. There are tons of resources on the internet and you don't have to be "that guy" at the bike shop.
That guy? Nice edit. If you're going to be a jerk, at least be man enough to leave it as it was.
:rolleyes:
He's got free access to all the tools he needs and people to help walk him through repairs. How exactly is buying his own tools and trying to figure things out from printed articles and pictures better?
You have a bike. Get some tools. Got a computer. Get some software. Wear a bra. Get some panties. And so on.
You also presumably have a bike. Why not untangle your panties from your naughty places and go for a ride instead of "contributing" to this thread?
Why not untangle your panties from your naughty places and go for a ride instead of "contributing" to this thread?
:roflmao:
bellweatherman
05-14-06, 05:56 PM
That guy? Nice edit. If you're going to be a jerk, at least be man enough to leave it as it was.
Well, my point was that only an "idiot" would be volunteering at a bike shop and hanging around all day for no pay. I thought it was a bit harsh so I edited the "idiot" to be "that guy". Reflecting back on that, probably wasn't a nice thing to say.
We once had a guy that would come to the shop every day. Literally EVERY day without fail. And all he did was hang out "volunteering" and just basically being a nerdy pain in the arse. We all kinda joked about this loser and wished that he'd just go away. And he actually was quite a moron. However, it was wrong of me to associate Bec (original poster) in any way to my previous experience years ago at the shop.
So Bec, no poor intent man. I got carried away thinking you were some whiny-azz fool bugging at the shop. You do appear sincere in wanting to learn some stuff. I'm sorry if I was a bit of a jerk like Waldo pointed out. Keep doing what you're doing and someday they might ask you if you want a job working at the bike shop.
So Bec, no poor intent man. I got carried away thinking you were some whiny-azz fool bugging at the shop. You do appear sincere in wanting to learn some stuff. I'm sorry if I was a bit of a jerk like Waldo pointed out. Keep doing what you're doing and someday they might ask you if you want a job working at the bike shop.
No sweat, happens to the best of us. I was there today (I only go Mondays and Tuesdays), learned a bunch, and had a ball. :)
bellweatherman
05-15-06, 09:44 AM
No sweat, happens to the best of us. I was there today (I only go Mondays and Tuesdays), learned a bunch, and had a ball. :)
Good deal. And someday you may just get a job from that bike shop.
That would be a flattering offer, but to be honest, I'm in it for the knowledge. I don't need any more work. I'm lazy enough as it is. :D
Well, my point was that only an "idiot" would be volunteering at a bike shop and hanging around all day for no pay. I thought it was a bit harsh so I edited the "idiot" to be "that guy". Reflecting back on that, probably wasn't a nice thing to say.
We once had a guy that would come to the shop every day. Literally EVERY day without fail. And all he did was hang out "volunteering" and just basically being a nerdy pain in the arse. We all kinda joked about this loser and wished that he'd just go away. And he actually was quite a moron. However, it was wrong of me to associate Bec (original poster) in any way to my previous experience years ago at the shop.
So Bec, no poor intent man. I got carried away thinking you were some whiny-azz fool bugging at the shop. You do appear sincere in wanting to learn some stuff. I'm sorry if I was a bit of a jerk like Waldo pointed out. Keep doing what you're doing and someday they might ask you if you want a job working at the bike shop.
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