Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Cannondale Capo

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The pics are up at the c-dale website. I was actually looking for a geared bike to sit next to the trakbikes when i stumbled upon copy about nyc and messengers and being hard and whatnot. black or white.
man and i just bought a pista concept and was going ot have it powdercoated white. now i will not stand out at all :p
http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/06/CUSA/model-7PR1.html
jyossarian
05-14-06, 12:08 PM
Hehe...
"How did we do it?
1. We identified the root of fixed gear and messenger culture. NYC yo!
2. We worked with shops who are face to face with these riders everyday... Toga NYC, Sid's NYC, Larry and Jeff's NYC
3. We developed our rider performance criteria: Style, Simplicity and Durability Handling.
4. And built the bike."
Also includes a pic of Team Puma I think.
P.S. I am not a Cannondale shill.
is that the same as mike giant's new c-dale (courtesy fecalface)? :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/charlesbronsonisdead22/project_GH_bike.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/charlesbronsonisdead22/wishbone.jpg
awesome-est:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/charlesbronsonisdead22/headtube.jpg
baxtefer
05-14-06, 12:22 PM
CAAD 5 Optimo? does not compute.
I thought the only thing that separated CAAD 5 from CAAD 7 was the Optimo tubing.....
carleton
05-14-06, 12:23 PM
Pretty sweet bike. Any word on the suggested retail price? Are they in stores for this season?
Why I'm happy: My Single Speed for the masses (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=195355) thread
baxtefer
05-14-06, 12:27 PM
$800-ish I think.
ImOnCrank
05-14-06, 12:38 PM
Man, I'm conviced squid is actually 5 people. Dude is everywhere.
OH MY GOSH! this is not good for my financial health! i always loved cdale frames, and always hoped that they'd come out with a streetable fixed gear bike.
and now what happens? oh boy...i am doomed.:eek:
Looks like somebody at the NOS race already has one?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/terror/145806069/in/set-72057594133920952/
brunning
05-14-06, 02:10 PM
looks nice in white.
It's not white, though. "Raw hi-bright" is Cannondale's way of saying "bare aluminum with clear coat"
teadoggg
05-14-06, 02:44 PM
Looks like somebody at the NOS race already has one?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/terror/145806069/in/set-72057594133920952/
that is a couple years old.
Fugazi Dave
05-14-06, 02:50 PM
Yup. Soiled myself again.
Edit: Regarding the pictured bike above, rather than the one on the C'Dale site.
humancongereel
05-14-06, 02:53 PM
goddamn it. there's 800-ish dollars i'm going to feel compelled to spend now.
that is a couple years old.
Is it? I guess the colour scheme threw me off; it resembles the bare aluminum CAAD8 road bikes for 2006.
srcurran
05-14-06, 03:05 PM
one of the color schemes involves BBQ!!!!
It also doesnt come with a track cog, only a freewheel. Weird.
so who knows what "2007 Early Release" means? Released before 2007? Or early in 2007? One of the Puma riders (Alfred I think) was in Bike Works while I was there earlier this week talking something about getting one of the new team bikes painted, guess they might have these in their hands already...
space_robots
05-14-06, 03:12 PM
Odd, I wonder why it comes with a freewheel
mcatano
05-14-06, 06:30 PM
I'm impressed... almost 20 posts and no one's busted out, "Capo? Looks more like Crappo to me!"
I'm here all week. Try the veal.
m.
it looks like the decals were photoshopped on
visitordesign
05-14-06, 08:17 PM
Odd, I wonder why it comes with a freewheel
felipe was riding his freewheel in the race yesterday. some people who skitch a lot prefer singlespeed to fixed. actually, come to think of it, a bunch of people were riding singlespeed freewheel bikes in the race yesterday--including a bunch of the top 20 finishers.
Hehe...
"How did we do it?
1. We identified the root of fixed gear and messenger culture. NYC yo!
2. We worked with shops who are face to face with these riders everyday... Toga NYC, Sid's NYC, Larry and Jeff's NYC
3. We developed our rider performance criteria: Style, Simplicity and Durability Handling.
4. And built the bike."
Also includes a pic of Team Puma I think.
P.S. I am not a Cannondale shill.
more like "we determined how many langsters specialized sells and figured we could make a profit with a similar but 'edgier' offering"
so who knows what "2007 Early Release" means? Released before 2007? Or early in 2007? One of the Puma riders (Alfred I think) was in Bike Works while I was there earlier this week talking something about getting one of the new team bikes painted, guess they might have these in their hands already...
i asked my LBS, and they said it'd be out by the end of may. apparently, they had already been on order since the winter time...
more like "we determined how many langsters specialized sells and figured we could make a profit with a similar but 'edgier' offering"
perhaps mixed in with "how can we finally profit off this Puma deal we made?"
but whatever, combined with the new schwinn it looks like the quality of the new complete fixies being offered is going up, and that can only be a good thing. (Unless you are Tony Arms, but I think he's got market niche and rep in a good place already).
carleton
05-14-06, 10:13 PM
...combined with the new schwinn it looks like the quality of the new complete fixies being offered is going up, and that can only be a good thing.
Word.
Vintage, custom, and high-end bikes will always have a place along with these off of the shelf bikes, so I don't think that people will feel like their territory is being encroached.
Let's encourage this. I for one have already encouraged my GF (at the time) to buy a off the shelf SS MTB and my buddy is about to buy an off the shelf SS roadie.
Maybe this trend (no doubt helped by current gas prices) will encourage more people to ride bikes as a whole which is GREAT.
abeyance
05-14-06, 11:56 PM
It seems like the Cannondale Track from a few years ago with a slacker head ( off by a degree) and seattube angle( off by a few degrees) , downgraded specs ( dura ace to coda, cxp23 to "mach1, whatever that is) and a set of piss poor brakes. I really like the color though. I think I am going to have to stop by my LBS for more info. It looks like it needs a set of deep dish rims.
LóFarkas
05-15-06, 05:36 AM
Mach1 is a French rim and spoke maker. Not too bad at all. CFX's are 460g and tough as nails. Mavic still sounds better, of course.
Ooops, the site says it has 510 rims. That's a 18mm wide hybrid rim. Dunno what they were thinking...
BLACKMARKET
05-15-06, 06:30 AM
this bike is designed for hardcore graffiti artist's.
mattface
05-15-06, 06:55 AM
I generally like Cannondale Track bikes, and I generally like the entry level Single speeds. like IRO Mark V, Raleigh Rush Hour, and yes even the Pista. I dislike the Langster, but I seem to have an inexplicable aversion to anything Specialized. I know they make some nice bikes, but I just don't like them. On the other hand I usually like Cannondale stuff, especially their track bikes, but this thing leaves me feeling luke warm. I'm not sure why, but I think it has to do with the "fashion" aspect. Most Cannondale stuff to me seems purposeful, with aesthetic considerations coming clearly after the functional design elements. In general I like the idea of down-specing their track bike for affordability, and making it a bit more streetable design. I can't realy seperate my emotional response from my practical one, but I think if they would lose the "edgey urban" pretense, and the Mafia reference, I think I would really like this bike. I just couldn't get over the idea that I would feel silly riding around rural Vermont with a Graffitied bike that thinks it's a crime boss.
edit: I thought it over, and I realized my aversion to this bike is really quite simple. I hate the name. Some people would never want toride a Motobecane Messenger because they would feel like a total possenger on it. This is worse, I'd feel like a Posfiosso. I'd much rather be a possenger than a Posfiosso. I actually admire messengers and the work they do, but I don't really feel that way about Mafioso's.
srcurran
05-15-06, 07:07 AM
Mach1 is a French rim and spoke maker. Not too bad at all. CFX's are 460g and tough as nails. Mavic still sounds better, of course.
Ooops, the site says it has 510 rims. That's a 18mm wide hybrid rim. Dunno what they were thinking...
I noticed that too. But it comes with a 700c tire, so I figured that the 510 doesn't mean anything, or means something else.
mattface
05-15-06, 07:19 AM
They can't be THAT wide if they are running 23s
.:Jimbo:.
06-20-06, 10:26 PM
Saw a black one in person today, an will report a bit on my findings. First and best of all, the cablestops are not brazed on and are instead plastic temporary and easily removable housings. The logo is a very dark shade of gray, far darker then it appears on the site, and from about 10, mybe even in as little as 5 feet away, the frame looks...logoless. Definetly a clean looking track machine. I'll try to get some pics of it up tommorow.
AfterThisNap
06-20-06, 10:44 PM
more like "we determined how many langsters specialized sells and figured we could make a profit with a similar but 'edgier' offering"
HAHA, this is hilarious. The C-dale and Spez reps were nagging us about the capo and the new Langster for months. When C-dale claims they've been digging to "the root of fixed gear and messenger culture", it really means they've been talking to nerds like ME:D .
The "NYC influence" i suppose is evident in the Capo. The new langster is going to be more like a road bike now with a carbon fiber front fork and a more traditional paintjob (orange/coffee/brown), but it now comes with a fixed cog. It's being marketed more as an off season training tool for roadies. They are, however, designing a NYC edition langster with a flatbar and cross levers. The rep pow-wowed at our shop for some input- i told him to include a frame sticker of a "G".
Oh, and early release 2007 is a mixed bag of high end 2006 stuff they didn't sell, and early versions of kiddie and low/mid range bikes to test the waters before interbike.
C-dale rep brougt in an early release system seven. I'm not a big C-dale fan, but holy schneikies that's a light bike (even with Ksyrium ES clinchers).
.:Jimbo:.
06-20-06, 10:53 PM
HAHA, this is hilarious. The C-dale and Spez reps were nagging us about the capo and the new Langster for months. When C-dale claims they've been digging to "the root of fixed gear and messenger culture", it really means they've been talking to nerds like ME:D .
The "NYC influence" i suppose is evident in the Capo. The new langster is going to be more like a road bike now with a carbon fiber front fork and a more traditional paintjob (orange/coffee/brown), but it now comes with a fixed cog. It's being marketed more as an off season training tool for roadies. They are, however, designing a NYC edition langster with a flatbar and cross levers. The rep pow-wowed at our shop for some input- i told him to include a frame sticker of a "G".
Oh, and early release 2007 is a mixed bag of high end 2006 stuff they didn't sell, and early versions of kiddie and low/mid range bikes to test the waters before interbike.
C-dale rep brougt in an early release system seven. I'm not a big C-dale fan, but holy schneikies that's a light bike (even with Ksyrium ES clinchers).
So they really did to talk to some real messengers........
Im stll not sure how they figured messengers want an 800 track bike for work.:rolleyes:
AfterThisNap
06-20-06, 11:03 PM
I'm not a messenger.
.:Jimbo:.
06-20-06, 11:23 PM
Ah, so they weren't infact talking to messengers, now i understand.
We have a couple of these at my shop. At first glance, the rear hub looks like a dual freewheel. I haven't really checked to see if they installed the freewheel on the fixed side, but it doesn't look that way. Doesn't make sense considering the marketing we've seen. On top of that, the rear brake is clearly meant to be cleanly removed, with the cable housing essentially zip-tied to the the frame as mentioned before. Maybe it's all just a quirk of assembly.
Other than that, it looks like a neat bike...nothing interesting about the spec, but I like the subdued look of the frame.
this bike is designed for hardcore graffiti artist's.
i like c'dales, ride one myself, but man, if they were gonna put graf on it, they at least could've avoided that generic ubiquitous internet graf font... where the real writers at?!?!
luckycat
06-21-06, 05:20 PM
Ah, so they weren't infact talking to messengers, now i understand.
They have been around here and there for years. They were a sponsor at CMWC in DC a few years back. I spent some time with one of their reps, nice guy. He got me a replacement for a Cannondale I'd broken after my lbs refused me because I'd stripped off the paint.
.:Jimbo:.
06-21-06, 08:34 PM
here are some quick pics from a crappy digi
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9273/img11166qu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6602/img11175xs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3317/img11185cg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4134/img11197wy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
the frame is really nice, typial cannondale, and theres quite a bit of cf, both on fork and seatpost. And this one is being sold at 799.
Just an update to those whom are curious.....
Nice frame welds. I remember why I used to like Cannondales.
.:Jimbo:.
06-21-06, 10:02 PM
Nice frame welds. I remember why I used to like Cannondales.
I was talking to some guy about it, and he was suprised it was aluminum, and not a cf frame, just because it was "that" smooth.
Here's my CAPO. Picked her up today. Don't mind the pedals. Im probably going to pick up some eggbeaters to throw on.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/dwilkins/vwvortex/capo01.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/dwilkins/vwvortex/capo02.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/dwilkins/vwvortex/capo03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/dwilkins/vwvortex/capo04.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/dwilkins/vwvortex/capo05.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/dwilkins/vwvortex/capo06.jpg
AfterThisNap
06-23-06, 07:09 PM
eeeenteresting chainring. Could we get a profile shot of that crankset?
eeeenteresting chainring. Could we get a profile shot of that crankset?
Here are a few shots of the crank
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/dwilkins/vwvortex/capo07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/dwilkins/vwvortex/capo08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/dwilkins/vwvortex/capo09.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/dwilkins/vwvortex/capo010.jpg
AfterThisNap
06-23-06, 10:33 PM
hm, in some of the pics it looks like the chainring has a lot of offset to bring in the chainline. Then in others it doesn't,
hm, in some of the pics it looks like the chainring has a lot of offset to bring in the chainline. Then in others it doesn't,
Maybe these will help you determine.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/dwilkins/vwvortex/capo012.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/dwilkins/vwvortex/capo011.jpg
concernicus
06-23-06, 11:55 PM
in the shop i where i work, there are a few cannondale track bikes up in the wherehouse. they, however, have a red white and blue color scheme, and have sugino 75's. they are relatively nice, and i bet they are at about 18 lbs.
i still hate cannondale. one word: lefty
Can anyone confirm else confirm the dual-freewheel hub?
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