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Serendipper
05-14-06, 11:21 PM
We Americans are the biggest hypocrites. We find all aspects of sex taboo, yet we are obsessed with violence. However, the majority of horrible crimes seem to be sex-related, likely due to the barrage of sexual images used to sell us stuff.
We sell our kids toy guns, and hoochie clothes to little girls, yet are surprised when teenage boys shoot up schools, and teenage girls become pregnant.
We will show a cop shooting a man holding hostages at 6:00 (just in time for dinner), yet janet Jackson flashes one nipple, and all hell breaks loose.
So, in light of this, I open the discussion with a query: If, given a choice of careers (meaning a job that would define your life), which would you find absolutely unimaginable? Porn Star, or Assassin? Prostitute or Sniper? Exotic Dancer, or Hitman?
What is worse? Getting paid for sex, or violence? Which profession could you live with? What are you most afraid/ashamed of, and why?
Jerseysbest
05-14-06, 11:38 PM
Yeah wtf, why can't I let my twig and berries out to breath once in a while. America ****ing sucks I tell ya what.
We Americans are the biggest hypocrites. We find all aspects of sex taboo, yet we are obsessed with violence. However, the majority of horrible crimes seem to be sex-related, likely due to the barrage of sexual images used to sell us stuff.
We sell our kids toy guns, and hoochie clothes to little girls, yet are surprised when teenage boys shoot up schools, and teenage girls become pregnant.
We will show a cop shooting a man holding hostages at 6:00 (just in time for dinner), yet janet Jackson flashes one nipple, and all hell breaks loose.
So, in light of this, I open the discussion with a query: If, given a choice of careers (meaning a job that would define your life), which would you find absolutely unimaginable? Porn Star, or Assassin? Prostitute or Sniper? Exotic Dancer, or Hitman?
What is worse? Getting paid for sex, or violence? Which profession could you live with? What are you most afraid/ashamed of, and why?
Speak for yourself sista, I like to get freaky-deaky.
pigmode
05-15-06, 12:18 AM
Not suprising considering the puritan heritage, the Revolution, and the taking of the West. In that historical context, its not suprising that repressed sexuality is often expressed with violence.
DannoXYZ
05-15-06, 12:19 AM
Yah, it's sick and twisted. We can't even show a nipple on TV, yet people getting shot up, dismembered and sliced and diced is perfectly OK...
I would be an assassin....
shakeNbake
05-15-06, 12:31 AM
I remember a stand-up comedian saying something along the line of "They DO celebrate thanksgiving in England, it's called **** off, puritans!"
Sniper... one shot, one kill. They'll never know what hit them.
Sniper... I wanna be a sniper so bad...
56/12 and 22/28
05-15-06, 05:07 AM
I would want to be 47 from the Hitman games.
Then I could have my cake and eat it, too.
bkrownd
05-15-06, 05:44 AM
Well, when people keep voting Republican, what do ya expect? ;)
TexasGuy
05-15-06, 07:14 AM
Sniper, Hitman and Assassin. Anything related to sex has been proven time and time again to have an extremely negative impact on young children's development and has an alarming rate of these children turning to prostitution, drugs, depression and suicide.
Kabloink
05-15-06, 07:30 AM
If I had to chose between murdering and prostituting myself, I would chose neither career. A life being a beggar would be a better choice.
TexasGuy
05-15-06, 07:33 AM
If I had to chose between murdering and prostituting myself, I would chose neither career. A life being a beggar would be a better choice.
Come on man. Think Double Oh Seven. :D Get the best of both worlds. a little kiling a little luvin from a prostitute
catatonic
05-15-06, 07:35 AM
This is in part why I find slasher films so amusing....
....we can't see the actual "intimate contact" between a man and woman, regardless of context, but we can watch some poor woman get thrown into a pit full of dirty syringes (Saw II)....of course if it's a **** scene, it's somehow more acceptable than porn...go figure. Hypocrasy for the win.
....and don't get me started on Janet's tit....people that get offended at that need to grow up. Honestly, I don't see any reason to be ashamed of what we were born with. It doesn't mean go around topless, but for pete's sake, the human body is not Medusa....so let's stop acting like we are going to die some horrid death if we see it....mmkay?
explody pup
05-15-06, 07:38 AM
Can't I be both a male prostitute and an assassin?
These days, you gotta diversify your skills in order to remain competative in the job market.
USAZorro
05-15-06, 07:44 AM
Personally, I'm glad that most obese people don't flash a lot of skin. :p
I wouldn't relish any of the above-mentioned "jobs". I guess I might consider being a hitman and doing in people who are into gratuitous violence - but that would be one of those moral and philosophical conundrums that could make people who can't live with ambiguity go crazy. I managed to escape that (yes, the tree falling in the forest with nobody around to hear it does make a sound. Got another stupid question mate?).
Oh - where was I. Violence. Bad, and always obscene. Sex, best kept private, and sometimes obscene. Bicycle racing! That's what we need more of on TV.
TexasGuy
05-15-06, 07:48 AM
Personally, I'm glad that most obese people don't flash a lot of skin. :p
Indeed
I wouldn't relish any of the above-mentioned "jobs". I guess I might consider being a hitman and doing in people who are into gratuitous violence - but that would be one of those moral and philosophical conundrums that could make people who can't live with ambiguity go crazy. I managed to escape that (yes, the tree falling in the forest with nobody around to hear it does make a sound. Got another stupid question mate?).
That would be a very ironic situation :D
Oh - where was I. Violence. Bad, and always obscene. Sex, best kept private, and sometimes obscene. Bicycle racing! That's what we need more of on TV.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
I too think our society is alittle mixed up on things but I for one wouldn't want to see any of my co-workers NAKED!!! YIKES. :)
Anyhoo, I wouldn't chose any of the aboved named professions just simply for the fact that I hold myself to a higher standard. I will also say that I am a freaky girl in bed and think that sex should be explored more then hidden in the closet. I don't think we would have the issues that we do have if people would be more open and willingly to discuss the topic!
bbattle
05-15-06, 08:04 AM
Sniper... I wanna be a sniper so bad...
Come on down to Huntsville; I'll take you snipe hunting.
bbattle
05-15-06, 08:08 AM
I'm just a gigolo, and everywhere I go
People know the part I'm playing
Paid for every dance, selling each romance
Every night some heart betraying
There will come a day when youth will pass away
Then what will they say about me
When the end comes I know they'll say just a gigolo as
Life goes on without me
There will come a day when youth will pass away
Then what will they say about me
When the end comes I know they'll say just a gigolo as
Life goes on without me, 'cause...
I ain't got nobody
http://www.ramagazine.org.uk/files/images/77f82d7a349c10c844caf9771f880b3c.jpg
56/12 and 22/28
05-15-06, 08:40 AM
OH!
I know who I could be!
Jean Reno in Leon: The Professional. :D
DannoXYZ
05-15-06, 11:04 AM
Anything related to sex has been proven time and time again to have an extremely negative impact on young children's development and has an alarming rate of these children turning to prostitution, drugs, depression and suicide.It's not sex that's the problem, it's portraying it as something forbidden, dirty, and bad that's the problem. Totally conflicts with how they're feeling on the inside and makes them feel guilty and then blaming them for it that makes it even worse. Repression and avoidance of the topic is no substitute for education and experience.
OH!
I know who I could be!
Jean Reno in Leon: The Professional. :DHave you seen the non-US version with the kiddie-porn?
MMACH 5
05-15-06, 11:52 AM
Steady...
steady...
hold your breath...
ease the trigger back, gently...
verify hit...
leave the country via the nearest border town...
make your way back to beach house in Monaco...
So where do I apply for the assassin job?
blonduathlongrl
05-15-06, 12:13 PM
That is a VERY good post... yes you have me thinking and I should add.. I agree how much sex is taboo is this country. When I first moved here the first thing I notice is what words were taboo and used for swears.. all swears all sex related... as compare to canada, all swears as religion related.. we swear using church words and you folks use sex words and then I went on noticing how big pornograghie was here and how very little you could openly discuss sex. I really like your post, makes you think.
TexasGuy
05-15-06, 12:14 PM
That is a VERY good post... yes you have me thinking and I should add.. I agree how much sex is taboo is this country. When I first moved here the first thing I notice is what words were taboo and used for swears.. all swears all sex related... as compare to canada, all swears as religion related.. we swear using church words and you folks use sex words and then I went on noticing how big pornograghie was here and how very little you could openly discuss sex. I really like your post, makes you think.
I was getting worried about you when you weren't online earlier, what with all this flooding :(
Shadiyah
05-15-06, 12:25 PM
I deplore violence. It makes me sick. I can't even stand watching it on movies or tv. I tried watching Saw II in the theatre and I had my eyes closed the entire time. I just can't do it. I don't want to be desensitized either. I find it absolutely vile.
I love sex, however. I think americans do tend to have unhealthy obsessions with it because of religious upbringings and repression and social taboo.
I could pick neither as a profession. I think either one of those would end up killing me, either physically or psychologically.
blonduathlongrl
05-15-06, 12:25 PM
I was getting worried about you when you weren't online earlier, what with all this flooding :(
ty... yeah this will be off topic but things are bad here... all schools are closed, trees are down, floads everywhere, some of my co-workers evacuated from thier place on mother's day:(.. half the town is under water, major highways closed.. and it doesnt look like the rain will stop till next sunday so far..:(.. but on a selfish news, so far my house is fine, no water damage yet, a tree missed the house by 10 feet.. Im holding up well so far.. thanks for caring :)
TexasGuy
05-15-06, 12:27 PM
ty... yeah this will be off topic but things are bad here... all schools are closed, trees are down, floads everywhere, some of my co-workers evacuated from thier place on mother's day:(.. half the town is under water, major highways closed.. and it doesnt look like the rain will stop till next sunday so far..:(.. but on a selfish news, so far my house is fine, no water damage yet, a tree missed the house by 10 feet.. Im holding up well so far.. thanks for caring :)
Heh whoa. that was close. Yeah me and phantomcow created a thread each for you guys :p
USAZorro
05-15-06, 12:29 PM
...Have you seen the non-US version with the kiddie-porn?
Wouldn't that be like admitting to having committed a felony? Sounds like an all-around loser concept.
TexasGuy
05-15-06, 12:31 PM
Wouldn't that be like admitting to having committed a felony? Sounds like an all-around loser concept.
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
USAZorro
05-15-06, 12:31 PM
ty... yeah this will be off topic but things are bad here... all schools are closed, trees are down, floads everywhere, some of my co-workers evacuated from thier place on mother's day:(.. half the town is under water, major highways closed.. and it doesnt look like the rain will stop till next sunday so far..:(.. but on a selfish news, so far my house is fine, no water damage yet, a tree missed the house by 10 feet.. Im holding up well so far.. thanks for caring :)
Yow. Glad to hear you're ok. Hope your friends and town come through things ok too. I presume your race got scrubbed.
On a lighter note - you could do some serious training for a triathlon now...
blonduathlongrl
05-15-06, 12:42 PM
Yow. Glad to hear you're ok. Hope your friends and town come through things ok too. I presume your race got scrubbed.
On a lighter note - you could do some serious training for a triathlon now...
lol!!! Ok you made me laugh big time!!! Ill skip the swimming part, ty!
My race is in 2 weeks..
allright, i feel like Im highjacking this thread... no offence intented OP! :)
blonduathlongrl
05-15-06, 12:45 PM
Wouldn't that be like admitting to having committed a felony? Sounds like an all-around loser concept.
admitting to doing this much would be enough for me to want to put that person behind bars.. child pornographie is not something I can discuss withought feeling very angry. It makes me physically ill that some people are capable of even viewing this.
TexasGuy
05-15-06, 12:51 PM
admitting to doing this much would be enough for me to want to put that person behind bars.. child pornographie is not something I can discuss withought feeling very angry. It makes me physically ill that some people are capable of even viewing this.
And I think that is where the crux of the problem comes from.
Greater acceptance of what we consider taboo results in greater acceptance in things that should under no circumstances be accepted and it also increases the greater demand for bending the laws.
There also is the flip side of the coin which my dad has occasionally commented on regardings marijuana. By Legalizing marijuna you solve almost as many problems as people think would be created and those who have no self compunction and over do it will quickly be identified and will deal their own demise.
However when it comes to exploitation of children, one really shouldn't/can't take this risk although there are several countries that have opted for this.
chipcom
05-15-06, 01:02 PM
After my military, political and law enforcement careers - I say make love not war
TexasGuy
05-15-06, 01:03 PM
Whoa new avatar alert
Shadiyah
05-15-06, 01:43 PM
Whoa new avatar alert
Yes, very cute! But I'm a sucker for furry animals. :)
USAZorro
05-15-06, 02:28 PM
Yes, very cute! But I'm a sucker for furry animals. :)
I think TG meant yours. Your focused look is quite a contrast (pleasant too I must add) to the former blurry avatar.
TexasGuy
05-15-06, 02:46 PM
I think TG meant yours. Your focused look is quite a contrast (pleasant too I must add) to the former blurry avatar.
:roflmao: this isn't the "hit on ... " ;) :D
CyLowe97
05-15-06, 02:50 PM
hoochie clothes
Yeah! More hoochie clothes!!
TexasGuy
05-15-06, 02:55 PM
Yeah! More hoochie clothes!!
Ehh, be careful what you ask for. heh.
CyLowe97
05-15-06, 03:00 PM
Ehh, be careful what you ask for. heh.
I hear ya.... It's just fun to say "hootchie clothes."
Too bad 98% of the hootchie mommas that wear such clothes spill out of them like a plastic trash bag about to burst..... :eek:
catatonic
05-15-06, 03:04 PM
Every time I hear the word Hoochie, I remeber this radio guy's skit making fun of Mike Tyson.
"I'm so rich I have a hoochee room....where the butler brings in the girl, and I'm like 'who chee?'."
USAZorro
05-15-06, 03:06 PM
:roflmao: this isn't the "hit on ... " ;) :D
Wasn't meant to be a "hit". I'm simply paying a compliment to someone who's not much older than my daughter.
Mo'Phat
05-15-06, 03:18 PM
If, given a choice of careers (meaning a job that would define your life), which would you find absolutely unimaginable? Porn Star, or Assassin? Prostitute or Sniper? Exotic Dancer, or Hitman[/SIZE]?
I'm thinking a Porn Sniper would be pretty awesome. The whole "One shot, one kill" bit, but with a porn angle, Yeah, I could go for that.
ps. Nobody should have to see Janet's saggy yabbos, and it has nothing to do with taboo. Ignoring the fact that she skewered them with a 16 penny nail. It was jiggly and gross. (I'd still hit it six ways 'til Sunday...)
pps. Don't be upset with America that we're Puritanical. If Europeans would have done their job and either converted or eliminated all the Puritans before they set sail on the Mayflower and putting bonnets and petticoats on all the Indians, we wouldn't be in this mess. It's YOUR fault, not ours. Put that in your 9" vibrator and smoke it. Friggen hypocrites.
Shadiyah
05-15-06, 03:51 PM
I think TG meant yours. Your focused look is quite a contrast (pleasant too I must add) to the former blurry avatar.
Did he? Oh... :p Thanks. It's actually just my experiment to see if people think I'm smarter and take me more seriously because of the glasses. ;)
Serendipper
05-15-06, 04:06 PM
Yes, very cute! But I'm a sucker for furry animals. :)
Chip's dog is kinda cute too...:p
Lamplight
05-15-06, 05:14 PM
I'd rather shoot people than have sex with skanky looking....skanks. Although I'd rather not shoot people either. :D
Michigander
05-15-06, 05:55 PM
Could I just split the difference use my construction skills to build gun shops and ***** houses?
By the way, I'm surprised by some of you who wouldn't want to bump uglys. Fat chicks are often far more enthusiastic in bed than hot ones.
SpongeDad
05-15-06, 05:59 PM
...which would you find absolutely unimaginable? Porn Star, or Assassin? Prostitute or Sniper? Exotic Dancer, or Hitman[/SIZE]?[/B]
What is worse? Getting paid for sex, or violence? Which profession could you live with? What are you most afraid/ashamed of, and why?
Part of the difference in your list isn't so much sex vs violence, but subject of exploitation vs being the actor.
So yeah, I could probably rationalize being a sniper a lot faster than being buggered for cash. That's said, exotic dancer is relatively low on the exploitation scale - hell, the entire Harvard Marching Band has seen my butt - such that I can imagine that the moral aversion to committing a crime taking hold.
Also, you didn't say - do I get to pick who I'm gonna whack?
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