Mountain Biking - Asymmetric chainstays

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Siu Blue Wind
05-16-06, 07:26 PM
Can somebody please explain how the asymmetric chainstays on my 05 Gary Fisher Cake are beneficial? The LBS tried to tell me but he spoke so fast he lost me. And the fact is, I'm really a closet blonde. Thanks! :)


LowCel
05-16-06, 07:27 PM
They can make the rear triangle stiffer. They can also allow more tire clearance as well as making the travel more linear. I'm not sure of the specifics but that's kind of the clif's notes version.

mx_599
05-16-06, 08:14 PM
my schwinn homegrown has asymmetrical stays:D


BoSoxYacht
05-16-06, 08:33 PM
They can make the rear triangle stiffer. They can also allow more tire clearance as well as making the travel more linear. I'm not sure of the specifics but that's kind of the clif's notes version.+1 . I could ramble on , and on , but Lowcel speaks the truth again .:D

Siu Blue Wind
05-16-06, 08:42 PM
Okay, guys. Stiffer, more linear. The light's not switching on. Please explain? *errggghhhh.....*

Siu Blue Wind
05-16-06, 09:11 PM
I have below a couple of pics.


http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h319/SiuBlueWind/chainstays21.jpg (http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h319/SiuBlueWind/chainstays1.jpg)

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h319/SiuBlueWind/chainstays2.jpg

BoSoxYacht
05-16-06, 09:21 PM
your left chainstay is straight because it is more rigid that way. The right chainstay is curved for clearance reasons .BTW ... your bike is way too clean . Get some dirt on that .:D

Siu Blue Wind
05-16-06, 10:12 PM
Nope, gotta keep it clean. Bike doesn't like me. It might go for sale.

sheba
05-16-06, 10:29 PM
Is your rear axle not centered in the bike? If not, one benifet would be that your rear wheel has less/no dish to it. If your rear wheel has no dish it would be more structuraly sound; the spokes on both sides of the hub would have equal tension.

mx_599
05-16-06, 10:35 PM
Okay, guys. Stiffer, more linear. The light's not switching on. Please explain? *errggghhhh.....*
....this needs more explanation? how old are you?:p

Siu Blue Wind
05-16-06, 10:58 PM
....this needs more explanation? how old are you?:p


Quit teasing me. (pout) I'm not as bike savvy as you guys. That's why I'm asking. I'm depending on smart guys like you to help me to understand this evil bike I have hanging in my bedroom.

Siu Blue Wind
05-16-06, 11:00 PM
Is your rear axle not centered in the bike? If not, one benifet would be that your rear wheel has less/no dish to it. If your rear wheel has no dish it would be more structuraly sound; the spokes on both sides of the hub would have equal tension.


*goes to look* Nice and centered.

Pheard
05-16-06, 11:11 PM
Ill make it easy for you. I have a friend called dictionary.com lets ask him.

Stiffer
# Difficult to bend; rigid.
#

1. Not moving or operating easily or freely; resistant: a stiff hinge.
2. Lacking ease or comfort of movement; not limber: a stiff neck.

Linear

# Of, relating to, or resembling a line; straight.
#

1. In, of, describing, described by, or related to a straight line.
2. Having only one dimension.

Now apply, these definitions to the comments people made above.

2wheeled
05-16-06, 11:21 PM
Quit teasing me. (pout) I'm not as bike savvy as you guys. That's why I'm asking. I'm depending on smart guys like you to help me to understand this evil bike I have hanging in my bedroom.

Siu, I think mx 599 had switched briefly to X-rated;)

Pheard
05-16-06, 11:28 PM
Siu, I think mx 599 had switched briefly to X-rated;)
I just caught that :D

Siu Blue Wind
05-16-06, 11:35 PM
Well Skiahh explained it to me. I understand now. Thanks for your replies everyone! :)

NoF3ar. I don't need you to make me look stupid. I'm doing a fine enough job on my own. And that answers your Yahoo question.

mx_599
05-17-06, 12:39 AM
Siu, I think mx 599 had switched briefly to X-rated;)
i always resort to x-rated/ perverted when i don't have a good answer to something. it usually works for the best in the long run.

Pheard
05-17-06, 01:26 AM
Well Skiahh explained it to me. I understand now. Thanks for your replies everyone! :)

NoF3ar. I don't need you to make me look stupid. I'm doing a fine enough job on my own. And that answers your Yahoo question.
If it makes you feel better, I wasn't trying to make you feel bad. I had to look those definitions up to understnad it too, and I still don't quite understand what they mean.

古強者死神
05-17-06, 03:04 AM
i always resort to x-rated/ perverted when i don't have a good answer to something. it usually works for the best in the long run.



Cant beat that quote I got from you the other day forgot what thread it was somthing to do with brake cables.

You could have made it in the marines as a drill instructor everything from rifle drill to uniforms had some relation to sex

wheelhot
05-17-06, 03:32 AM
Haha, check out 2006 Truth Asymmetric chainstays it looks soooo cleannnn. Anyway what bike you ride, it looks nice, red very phosphorus, when you get it? ChineseNewYear? hehe. Anyway whats wrong with cleaning her bike man? I like to keep my bike clean if im not riding it for a couple of days ^^. Anyway the reason why they make it curved on the chain side is to prevent chain suck, Kona bikes uses Asymmetric chainstays also ^^

Karldar
05-17-06, 03:44 AM
your left chainstay is straight because it is more rigid that way. The right chainstay is curved for clearance reasons .BTW ... your bike is way too clean . Get some dirt on that .:D
Beat me to it. My bike wasn't that clean when I bought it, Siu!:p My Dawg Deluxe has chainstays like that, too. Never worried about it, tho. It works and that's good enough for me.:)

Siu Blue Wind
05-17-06, 07:52 AM
Awww geez. The one REAL bike post I make and you guys give me a hard time.....:rolleyes: :D

cryptid01
05-17-06, 08:05 AM
It's for drivetrain clearance, as some have intimated. Offset chainstays are basically the best design workaround to retain the chosen pivot placement while using a standard drive system.

It takes more material (and adds weight) to lower that driveside chainstay, but if you visualize your non-drive side chainstay (which makes a relatively straight connection from pivot to dropout) on the driveside, you will see that it wouldn't work.

Karldar
05-17-06, 09:07 AM
Awww geez. The one REAL bike post I make and you guys give me a hard time.....:rolleyes: :D
Aww, you know we love ya!:D I haven't seen a bike that clean since I used to strip mine down after races and stuff, tho.;)

MichaelW
05-17-06, 10:04 AM
In a symetrical frame, the hub is usually off-centre to the non-drive side to make room for the cogs. The wheel is dished to centre the rim.
In a dished/assymetric frame, the hub is closer to the centre and the dropouts are offset to the drive side by a few mm.

a2psyklnut
05-17-06, 10:13 AM
Hey Siu,

I noticed in your pictures that your quick release levers are on your "non-drive" side of your bike.

That's pretty standard for a Non-disc bike, but since you do have discs, consider switching them around. Why?

If you've been riding down a steep trail and have a flat and must remove one of your wheels, you might touch the rotor. These can get very hot and would burn your fingers/hand. If the levers are on the drive side, problem solved.

Also, just the dirt and oil on your hands is enough to contaminate your rotors. Why take the chance of accidentally touching them.

LowCel
05-17-06, 10:17 AM
Hey Siu,

I noticed in your pictures that your quick release levers are on your "non-drive" side of your bike.

That's pretty standard for a Non-disc bike, but since you do have discs, consider switching them around. Why?

If you've been riding down a steep trail and have a flat and must remove one of your wheels, you might touch the rotor. These can get very hot and would burn your fingers/hand. If the levers are on the drive side, problem solved.

Also, just the dirt and oil on your hands is enough to contaminate your rotors. Why take the chance of accidentally touching them.

I've tried putting the quick releases on the drive side and I just don't like it. The way I install my front wheel I can't reach the front quick release if it is on the drive side. I prefer to keep mine on the disc side and just use a little caution. I haven't burnt myself on the disc yet when removing a wheel.

Siu Blue Wind
05-17-06, 07:11 PM
Well thank you to everybody that responded, I do understand it better. It has a lot to do with twisting, force and pressure. I will think about the quick release suggestion.

And as for the cleanliness of the bike, I might be a fanatic - I can't stand a dirty bike! A friend of mine is talking me out of selling it so I might just try to keep the demon bike. Maybe I'll learn to like it again.

And Gastro, thank YOU for your reply.....you're alright. ;)

mtnbiker66
05-17-06, 07:22 PM
And Gastro, thank YOU for your reply.....you're alright. ;)

No he's not........