Southern California - OC to San Diego

Anyone done this lately? I did it years ago and remember getting lost (more like confused) at a few different points.

Is there a detailed map available?

tia

This may help:

http://ucsdcycling.org/modules.php?name=Routes&route=0

You could always Gmap it. Go to www.gmap-pedometer.com , go to your starting point and start clicking. The maps are Google Maps and should be pretty accurate. In terms of routes...I think you can go to Mapquest, do your origin and destination, and select 'avoid highways'. The actual 'Map' might not be so good, but the turns and mileage will get you where you're going.

Lucky, cycling in SoCal is so nice. Dont have to worry much about traffic trying to kill you and alwasy warm throughout the year.

Lucky, cycling in SoCal is so nice. Dont have to worry much about traffic trying to kill you and alwasy warm throughout the year.

True, but we've got many other problems to deal with here, mainly social....

This may help:

http://ucsdcycling.org/modules.php?name=Routes&route=0

sweet - that's perfect. thanks



You could always Gmap it. Go to www.gmap-pedometer.com , go to your starting point and start clicking. The maps are Google Maps and should be pretty accurate. In terms of routes...I think you can go to Mapquest, do your origin and destination, and select 'avoid highways'. The actual 'Map' might not be so good, but the turns and mileage will get you where you're going.

hmmm - I'll try that... thanks

If you can find it, you can also follow the annual Amtrak Century Bike Ride route from Irvine to SD...:)

Lucky, cycling in SoCal is so nice. Dont have to worry much about traffic trying to kill you and alwasy warm throughout the year.

well, *I* wouldn't say warm all year.... but compared to North and East, 50 degree days are warm:D

I ridden plenty of mornings in the upper 30s.

And as Fixer said, SoCal not the most social place to live. Although that seems to change as you go south of OC.

That all said, I wouldn't live anywhere else.

If you can find it, you can also follow the annual Amtrak Century Bike Ride route from Irvine to SD...:)

I went to OCW site, but didn't see a detailed map. I'll look a little deeper. tx

Before 9/11 bicyclists crossed via Camp Pendleton instead of fwy 5 :)

I found this at OCW:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=175922

Someone's already mapped out via gmap!

thanks all:)



BTW - who's ridden Torrey Pines 'hill'? Keep seeing it mentioned. What's the grade and how long?

Amtrack Century

http://www.ocw.org/Amtrak/Default.asp

How to get through Camp Pendleton (it was closed for a few years, now it's open)

http://www.sneakeasysjoint.com/thecyclingdude/2005/03/civillian_cycli.html

I found this at OCW:

BTW - who's ridden Torrey Pines 'hill'? Keep seeing it mentioned. What's the grade and how long?

That's part of my morning commute and our Saturday ride. It is about one mile with a little under 500 feet of elevation gain. The average grade is between 5 and 8%. A pretty decent hill, but there are many biddger climbs a little further east.

Torrey Pines is a bit over a mile long and a bit over 400 feet high, with an average grade of perhaps 6.5% along the meat of the climb (not counting shallow grades near the beginning and end). It's a rather steady grade, with no extreme sections, though it does get slightly steeper (perhaps low 7's) for a while in the second half.

Assuming you are in decent shape and have appropriate gearing for your ability, it's no big deal. It can be mentally frustrating, though, since you always think the end is right around the next bend, and the hill just seems to go on and on as a result. It's all mental, though.

If you can find it, you can also follow the annual Amtrak Century Bike Ride route from Irvine to SD...:)

I'm doing that in September. Who's with me!!! :)

Torrey Pines is a bit over a mile long and a bit over 400 feet high, with an average grade of perhaps 6.5% along the meat of the climb (not counting shallow grades near the beginning and end). It's a rather steady grade, with no extreme sections, though it does get slightly steeper (perhaps low 7's) for a while in the second half.

Assuming you are in decent shape and have appropriate gearing for your ability, it's no big deal. It can be mentally frustrating, though, since you always think the end is right around the next bend, and the hill just seems to go on and on as a result. It's all mental, though.

Actually, it's just under 2 miles long unless you are talking about the short route that starts at the parking lot. I've ridden both and the short route is definitely tough. I was out of the saddle almost all the way up it.

I'm talking about the route along N Torrey Pines Rd. There's no way it's 2 miles if you just count the meat of the climbing. 2 miles at 6-6.5% average grade would be a 633-686 foot hill. The bulk of the climbing is in a ~1.2 mile section.

Anyone done this lately? I did it years ago and remember getting lost (more like confused) at a few different points.

Is there a detailed map available?

tia

You cannot beat the turn-by-turn directions in this book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0898869544/sr=8-1/qid=1147912128/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-6359077-2113427?%5Fencoding=UTF8

When I measured it, bottom to top I found it to be 6% to 7%, 1.45 miles, 392 ft.

Agreed, it seems like it never ends because you can never see the top as you climb up and round the gentle bends in the road.

Me and my girlfriend are preliminarily planning on doing the OC to SD ride this fall. We are going to drive up the night before, stay at a motel. Do the ride, go back on the private train, stay over another night then drive home then next day.

..rickko..

I'm doing that in September. Who's with me!!! :)

yep - that's why I was asking. The OCW Amtrak deal is 9/9. Want to use that as test for MS150, which I'm doing in October. Just signed up for that, so I'm committed.:D

You cannot beat the turn-by-turn directions in this book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0898869544/sr=8-1/qid=1147912128/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-6359077-2113427?%5Fencoding=UTF8

you rule

I'd also like to ride some in central and northern cost. that's perfect

thanks

Lucky, cycling in SoCal is so nice. Dont have to worry much about traffic trying to kill you and alwasy warm throughout the year.

Well, riding around the San Diego area is much more dangerous than anywhere I lived in Norcal. There's definitely reason to worry about traffic trying to kill you. Especially riding along the coast. That said, you can ride almost every day of the year.

As for Torrey Pines, since it's sadly one of the only "climbs" near me... The climb on the main road (the "outside" climb) is about 390 ft over about 1.3 mi. The "inside" climb that goes up through the state park has a steep part of just under a kilometer, at about 8.8%, followed by a mile of very gentle, but rough pavement. Definitely the slower, but more fun option.

Before 9/11 bicyclists crossed via Camp Pendleton instead of fwy 5 :)

camp pendleton has been open to cyclists again for about 1.5 years now.

Dont have to worry much about traffic trying to kill you

:rolleyes:

camp pendleton has been open to cyclists again for about 1.5 years now.

Are you sure? If so, that's Great to hear! Thanks for the update. It's amazing how many people still ride on the freeway: I'm surprised that's still legal if there's an alternate route available to cyclists (although it is less direct). :)

Bring a state ID for Pendelton, they may stop you and if they do, the ID is necessary to pass the line (unless you want Marines to think you are a terrorist...

Rest of the ride is easy.

Come join me for a safety clinic for the MS Ride, I will walk you through the route we have planned. (blatant plug to get people to show up for these...)

I rode this ride recently and noticed the drivers got more hostile the
closer I got to SD.

I did an OC-SD ride last June, from Huntington Beach to Mission Bay. Notables: [a] bring ID to get into Pendelton. It was more hilly in there than I thought but preferable to riding on the 5 fwy [b] you can add 1000' of climbing if you take PCH straight down from HB to San Clemente instead of going in through Irvine and down towards Laguna Niguel [c] the Torrey Pines climb is no different than Newport Coast (if you're familiar with OC) [d] map your mileage BEFORE you ride.

We knew that our planned route was 92 mi. We figured we turn E near Carlsbad, do some loops inland, head back out and continue to SD. Turned out, we nixed that idea and decided we'd loop on Fiesta Island instead. Fiesta Island is inside Mission Bay. When we got there, we saw kite-surfers. 92 mi, 8 mi to go on this friggin' little island where the wind was just howling (i.e., being slammed from 20 down to 12 mph was so much fun). Was absolutely the roughest 8 mi of the whole ride. Other than the painful end, it was a great ride.

Enjoy your ride.

On July 22, some SoCal BikeForums roadies did (Oceanside--)Irvine--Oceanside(--Irvine), with may continuing on down to Solana Beach before returning via Amtrak. Oceanside--Irvine--Oceanside was about 90 miles of pretty easy riding. The ride (and route slip) are somewhere in this monster thread (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=207680).

Anyone done this lately? I did it years ago and remember getting lost (more like confused) at a few different points.

Is there a detailed map available?

tia

This is one I've used in the past: http://efgh.com/bike/old101.htm It starts in san clemente.

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Are you sure? If so, that's Great to hear! Thanks for the update. It's amazing how many people still ride on the freeway: I'm surprised that's still legal if there's an alternate route available to cyclists (although it is less direct). :)

yep it is still legal... and I'm one of those nuts that prefer the freeway to Pendelton. One comment about access to Pendelton. There is no garauntee they'll let you through. I've been turned away because they were doing maneuvers. This usually happens weekdays 11:30-1:30.

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Are you sure? If so, that's Great to hear! Thanks for the update. It's amazing how many people still ride on the freeway: I'm surprised that's still legal if there's an alternate route available to cyclists (although it is less direct). :)
Just make sure you have an ID with you, I don't know if they're still checking, but I know they were.

Yes, make sure if going through Pendleton that you have a valid non-expired government-issued ID.

This is the latest (4/06) from the CP website - http://www.pendleton.usmc.mil/scout/archives/releases/baseadvise/cycle.asp

There is a rumor that cycling privledges through the base will end due to the number of cyclists refuse to ride single file. I don't know who started the rumor or if it is valid - I usually ride through there at least once a month and don't see many people breaking the rules.

Sounds great! I'd love to do this ride sometime.

Did you take the train back, or what?



I did an OC-SD ride last June, from Huntington Beach to Mission Bay. Notables: [a] bring ID to get into Pendelton. It was more hilly in there than I thought but preferable to riding on the 5 fwy [b] you can add 1000' of climbing if you take PCH straight down from HB to San Clemente instead of going in through Irvine and down towards Laguna Niguel [c] the Torrey Pines climb is no different than Newport Coast (if you're familiar with OC) [d] map your mileage BEFORE you ride.

We knew that our planned route was 92 mi. We figured we turn E near Carlsbad, do some loops inland, head back out and continue to SD. Turned out, we nixed that idea and decided we'd loop on Fiesta Island instead. Fiesta Island is inside Mission Bay. When we got there, we saw kite-surfers. 92 mi, 8 mi to go on this friggin' little island where the wind was just howling (i.e., being slammed from 20 down to 12 mph was so much fun). Was absolutely the roughest 8 mi of the whole ride. Other than the painful end, it was a great ride.

Enjoy your ride.

(unless you want Marines to think you are a terrorist...


you mean like this:

http://caligurl.com/bikergurl/wp-content/jumbo%20jan%206%202006/jumbo4.jpg

^^^
And that handlebar bag makes you look even more suspicious!

just dont say this to the jarheads...
'Allahu Akbar min kulli shay'

I have heard that people not riding single file was why they closed the base before and why they are requiring ID's (not just 9-11). If you have an ID, they can ticket you for breaking the rules.

And again, WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO PISS OFF AN ARMED MARINE? event the marines without guns can kill people pretty easily! I follow their rules every time I am going through there.

i read, too that they were "closing" it to cyclists because of not riding single file.... i wish i could remember where i read it????????

meh.... i could still get on.... http://www.smileycons.com/img/emotions/149.gif

I went to OCW site, but didn't see a detailed map. I'll look a little deeper. tx

slightly used but still ok! enjoy...

I had to shrink these down to get under the attachement limit... if you want the full size baby let me know and I'll email it or put it up on a website.

BTW: the Train station is accross the street from the finish point.

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We jogged back ... :rolleyes:

Actually, our families drove down. Some went to Sea World; another went to visit their daughter at UC San Diego. It was a good ride ... the 80 mi of constant headwind from Huntington Beach to just before San Diego was ... er, fun.

Would love a full-sized one. Can you put it up someplace? If that's a pain, I can pm you with my email addy.

Thanks!


slightly used but still ok! enjoy...

I had to shrink these down to get under the attachement limit... if you want the full size baby let me know and I'll email it or put it up on a website.

BTW: the Train station is accross the street from the finish point.

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