Living Car Free - EVIL hires a mid-range advertising agency

http://streams.cei.org/

Look at the clips.

Would this fit better in P & R II or in Foo?

Those ads make me want to strangle someone.

Sorry, this is Evil (http://www.evilcycling.com/hope_through_hatred.htm).

Don't forget these guys.

http://www.evilbikes.com/

The "Competitive Enterprise Institute" exists to support the interests of the auto and petro industries. For a minute I was hypnotised into believing that petroleam is the perfect energy source since it gives us life giving C02. But then I came back to my senses.

I like image of that poor bastard riding a bike into a 40 mph headwind in the winter as if to drive home the point that bikes suck. Whenever they mention "our kids" you know the BS is gona be a flying.

The real evil is that our citizens really cannot make sense of this rhetoric. Anyone see any of these spots in your area? If so where was it?

:eek: :eek: :eek: What's sad is that some people will accept this at face value, without actually THINKING about it. I wonder how much the oil giants paid for this "ad"....

Those are indeed evil ads.

For the liberal propaganda check out http://exxonsecrets.org./
Somehow that spin makes more sense and lays bare the relationship between the CEI and Exxon.

Will someone please explain to me what is wrong with back breaking work? I rather enjoy it myself, beats the heck out of being cooped up in a cubicle farm stressing over stupid sheot anyday.

Actually I think the impetus to the first ad is there is some legislation being floated around to introduce a carbon usage tax, even at a penny a pound it would put gasoline at like about $4.60 a gallon here in the US right now I think. It would triple electric bills, and multiply heating bills by like 5 or 6. Europe already deals with this, just no carbon tax yet.

Will someone please explain to me what is wrong with back breaking work? I rather enjoy it myself, beats the heck out of being cooped up in a cubicle farm stressing over stupid sheot anyday.

Actually I think the impetus to the first ad is there is some legislation being floated around to introduce a carbon usage tax, even at a penny a pound it would put gasoline at like about $4.60 a gallon here in the US right now I think. It would triple electric bills, and multiply heating bills by like 5 or 6. Europe already deals with this, just no carbon tax yet.

We should have a carbon tax - it would be the most direct means of reducing activities that produce the stuff, compared to all the restrictions and legislation like CAFE standards that are easily manipulated and do not penalize high mileage drivers, for example.

Your example is off, however. A gallon of gas when burned, produces 20 lbs of CO2, so a penny tax per lb of CO2 would only be 20 cents per gallon, not significantly changing what we pay for fuel, or likely to change behavior. It is however, a number I have heard bantered about ($20/ton). Not enough to fund new technology and mitigation (carbon sequestration, etc) which will likely require $100/ton, or 5 cents per lb, which would raise gas by $1/gal.

I like how no sources were mentioned in the second ad when their bs machine went to work to discredit Time and The Washington Post.

Cute. Real cute.

Carbon tax? You must be kidding!

Carbon tax? You must be kidding!
Why kidding? This is probably the only effective way to reduce consumption. Everybody--left, right and in between--wants to reduce consumption, but so far nobody has the ability to enact the only measure that will succeed--raise energy prices through taxation.

Carbon tax? You must be kidding!

your home will be underwater within the next 50 years. :lol:

Will someone please explain to me what is wrong with back breaking work? I rather enjoy it myself, beats the heck out of being cooped up in a cubicle farm stressing over stupid sheot anyday.

Actually I think the impetus to the first ad is there is some legislation being floated around to introduce a carbon usage tax, even at a penny a pound it would put gasoline at like about $4.60 a gallon here in the US right now I think. It would triple electric bills, and multiply heating bills by like 5 or 6. Europe already deals with this, just no carbon tax yet.

I think George Carlin said it best (i'll paraphrase):

"I don't like the term Hard Work, because people use it to describe jobs that are pretty f'in easy. Hard work should be the term for anything you don't like doing, not for anything particularly physically or mentally challenging."

On a more on-topic note...Has anyone noticed that there's an attempt of sorts to use the pollution/global warming issue to cover up the much bigger, much more troublesome we're-running-out-of-f___ing-energy issue?

I think we've got a little more time available to handle the pollution situation than we do to handle the energy situation.

I think we've got a little more time available to handle the pollution situation than we do to handle the energy situation.

The thing is, there is a synergistic
relationship between the two problems.

As we run out of oil we will go to COAL
fired power plants (175 to be built in
the NE USA in the next few years) and
that will exacerbate the pollution
problem and the release of Greenhouse
gases which will speed up the melting
of the ice caps, which will increase the
severity of potential hurricanes in the
gulf of mexico which will (may likely)
knock out currently producing oil
refineries which will exacerbate the
oil problem which will call for more
coal fired plants and the circle of death
continues... Not to mention that this
is a GLOBAL phenomena and the scenario
above just addresses immediate US interests.

your home will be underwater within the next 50 years. :lol:
Can't say I'm gonna miss florida.