Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Building a Pista Concept

Im builing a 2006 Pista concept frame. Im going for a celeste / silver / white color scheme. I want to see if I can get white decals. I dont want to go with any carbon except for the bb.

This is what im planning:

Fork- Brushed Aero aluminum undecided
Wheels- Campy Pista hubs laced to Mavic Open Pro rims -front either triple cross or radial
Crank- Campy Pista, with Campy Pista bb
Saddle- Bianchi Fizik Arione
Stem- Thomson silver oversized 130mm 10 degrees
Seatpost- Thomson silver
Heatset- Campy Pista integrated
Tires- ? something extremely light, clinchers
Bars- ? something anodized silver oversized
Pedals- ? either Campy Pista clipless or clips and straps

I want to know what you thinkand if you would change anything.

aluminum fork? why? this ain't 1983 bro

yeah, stick with the carbon fork.
no radial lacing. go with 3x.

Alum fork and stem...**** you are not goin to be able to ride this bike on the street. That will be the most uncomfortable bike ever. You better go with a plastic seat while your at it.

edit: I didnt even get to the radial lacing/ you are goin to die

no wait: radial front and back, aluminum everything, kashimax five gold, 200 psi tubies

asstastic

i dont like the look of carbon or the feel, i like the stiffness, better power transfer

i dont like the look of carbon or the feel, i like the stiffness, better power transfer
as eddie said "asstastic"...you are goin to die

what kind of moron would ride a track bike on the street?

what kind of moron would ride a track bike on the street?
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oh man...

what kind of moron would ride a track bike on the street?
what kind of moron would ride clips and straps on the track and worry about power transfer?

i dont like the look of carbon or the feel, i like the stiffness, better power transfer
Yeah dude, totally... that power transfer to the front wheel is crucial.

Yeah dude, totally... that power transfer to the front wheel is crucial.
no way...the power transfer to the seatpost is way more crucial.

i just died a little inside

this thread is satisfying.

does anyone know where to get a 1 1/8" threadless bladed aluminum fork?

does anyone know where to get a 1 1/8" threadless bladed aluminum fork?
spicer cyles

Fork- Colnago Carbon Flash
Wheels- Campy pista High Flange laced 3x rear, radial front to ??
Crank- Campy Pista, with Campy Pista bb
Saddle- Bianchi Fizik Arione
Stem- Deda Newton Pista
Seatpost- Deda Magic Stick
Heatset- Campy Pista integrated
Tires- Vittoria Open Corsa Evo KS
Bars- Deda Velocitia
Pedals- Miche MT4

Velocita (not "ia") ... nice pick.

Fork - Reynolds Ouzo Pro Track
Wheels - Shimano Dura-Ace 7600 high flange hubs + Mavic CXP33s
Crank - Shimano Dura-Ace 7710 crankset + Shimano Dura-Ace 7700 bottom bracket
Saddle - Selle Italia SLR
Stem - Deda Newton Pista
Seatpost - Shimano Dura-Ace or Thomson Elite (depending on desired setback)
Heatset - FSA
Tires - Vittoria Crono EVO CS
Bars - Deda Velocita
Pedals - Time ATAC ... err, whatever you want that's secure

Edit: this is pulled completely out of my ass. I'm a fan of Shimano for track components and the Deda stuff is quite nice.

great builds, i'm taking notes for the concept i'm building.

I've had a secret love for the Bianchi Concepts. I would buy one, build it, and enter a triathlon. Where I wouldn't run or swim. Just suddenly show up and blow past everyone in oxygen deprived wind tunnel form. The look on thier faces...

Well yeah. It's a pipe dream and founded on only my love hate relationship with the tri folks around here. (We get a long fine but hack at eachother regularly).

I've had a secret love for the Bianchi Concepts. I would buy one, build it, and enter a triathlon. Where I wouldn't run or swim. Just suddenly show up and blow past everyone in oxygen deprived wind tunnel form. The look on thier faces...

Well yeah. It's a pipe dream and founded on only my love hate relationship with the tri folks around here. (We get a long fine but hack at eachother regularly).

only way to go...R.I.P.
http://static.flickr.com/51/133631900_b82122f577_o.jpg

I've had a secret love for the Bianchi Concepts. I would buy one, build it, and enter a triathlon. Where I wouldn't run or swim. Just suddenly show up and blow past everyone in oxygen deprived wind tunnel form. The look on thier faces...


You are an evil genius. I like that. ;)

juvi did you not like it or what?

Juvi, my concept looks almost exactly like yours, except mine has all black wheelset.

hey wangster you mind putting up pictures, I'm debating buyinig an 03 and putting my all black phils and deep-vs on it, I just want to see how it looks. Thanks

hey wangster you mind putting up pictures, I'm debating buyinig an 03 and putting my all black phils and deep-vs on it, I just want to see how it looks. Thanks


Sure...

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j152/Wangermeister/DSCN8506.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j152/Wangermeister/DSCN8507.jpg

damn that looks good. love that short stem. i have a real ***** for pista concepts

hey wangster you mind putting up pictures, I'm debating buyinig an 03 and putting my all black phils and deep-vs on it, I just want to see how it looks. Thanks

Good luck finding an 2003 or 2004. They are tough to find and hot.

If you've already found one, sweet.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j152/Wangermeister/DSCN8507.jpg


Very Very nice.

But, sup with the made in Taiwan sticker on the head tube?

Good luck finding an 2003 or 2004. They are tough to find and hot.

If you've already found one, sweet.

Trackstar seems to get them fairly often. I got mine not too long ago as NOS and they just had another one go out the door.

Very Very nice.

But, sup with the made in Taiwan sticker on the head tube?

Whats wrong with Made In Taiwan?:)

I've been too lazy to peel the sticker off and I don't really care either way how it looks with or without.

Whats wrong with Made In Taiwan?

It's a personal thing. It's not part of the graphic design of the bike. It's just put on due to import regulations or whatever. Sort of like warning stickers on how to work a quick-release or "inspected by #42".

Nothing agianst Taiwan ROC.

C

juvi did you not like it or what?
Oh...I loved that bike. I probably had it longer than any other track bike I have owned. My only problem with the thing is that I brake ****. And because of it being Alum, I was always afraid I would brake it. Even though I probably could have put another 3,000 miles on it and it would have been fine. The bike handles great, accelerates like a mother****er, isnt too uncomfortable with a carbon seatpost and fork(I probably would have bought those new carbon FSA track-drops for it had I kept it), and the bikes geometry is super nice. All in all, the bike felt great, rode great, but it just is not steel( my true love.)




Good luck finding an 2003 or 2004. They are tough to find and hot.

If you've already found one, sweet.

better jump on this one...


http://cgi.ebay.com/Bianchi-Pista-Concept-Matte-Black-Track-Bike-53cm_W0QQitemZ7243796776QQcategoryZ98084QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Whats wrong with Made In Taiwan?:)

I've been too lazy to peel the sticker off and I don't really care either way how it looks with or without.

Man, I'm just hatin' because I can't get that color in my size (or at least one that works).

:rolleyes:

small bikes are hotter than big bikes.

all I need now is to have black cranks and my stealth bike will be completed.

all I need now is to have black cranks and my stealth bike will be completed.

My dos centados:

Get a no set-back seatpost and increase the length of your stem. (I assume that is a 9cm stem, go to a 11cm stem.)

FWIW, YMMV

yeah I do want a zero setback post but they tend to cost a lot and no, the stem is a 70mm? or 80? its really short... I do want a longer stem... I want to use the deda newton pista.

The Maid in Taiwan sticker is part of the beauty of the bike.

Oh...I loved that bike. I probably had it longer than any other track bike I have owned. My only problem with the thing is that I brake ****. And because of it being Alum, I was always afraid I would brake it. Even though I probably could have put another 3,000 miles on it and it would have been fine. The bike handles great, accelerates like a mother****er, isnt too uncomfortable with a carbon seatpost and fork(I probably would have bought those new carbon FSA track-drops for it had I kept it), and the bikes geometry is super nice. All in all, the bike felt great, rode great, but it just is not steel( my true love.)




This forum's anal-retentiveness about brake vs. break has now been thrown for a loop. ;)

... the stem is a 70mm? or 80? its really short... I do want a longer stem... I want to use the deda newton pista.

God fu*kin' dammit, that's short...

Have patience and search eBay for those Thomson posts. They do come up from time to time, cheap.

Forget the Newton Pista. The drop is too steep for your set-up. And its over-priced... Put your money where it counts, not on what things look like.

Search eBay for Tom Ritchey Pro stems (for stiffness) or WCS stems (for lightness). I would go with the Pro stems. You can get them cheap, and they come (old stock) in -17* or -6* angles (new stock).

If they are stiff enough for the pro peleton/elite track sprinters, they will be stiff enough for you.

I do like the pro stem, but I have a chance to buy a 90mm newton for 55 so thats a good deal. I'll figure it out one I have the seatpost. It fits pretty well now, but it can be much better I agree.

This forum's anal-retentiveness about brake vs. break has now been thrown for a loop. ;)
true true

Yeah I already have a 59cm 2003 black concept lined up, he wants a price thats higher than a brand new '06 because of the rarity of the color and the size. For the price, I'm wondering if I'll be happier just getting the planet x track frame which is a little more expensive but seems a little more race spec, plus it seems like everyone is on a concept these days. I plan on building up the '03 Concept as follows, with mostly parts I already have:

B123s
black - thomson stem 15 deg flipped so its horizontal (screw comfort)
black - thomson straight seatpost
Selle Italia SLR saddle - I'm contemplating a white SLR and maybe using white bar tape too.
Dura-ace track cranks with a FSA chainring with the FSA logos blacked out, or else a new Sugino messenger ring.
Wheelset- I have silver phils laced with black spokes to nonmachined deep-vs with all black rubber, no colored BS.

I have been praying for an 03 concept in my size for a while, but now everyone has them, and I'm wondering if I should just spring for the Planet X frame. Oh the other thing shying me away from the Concept is that Concepts in big frame sizes aren't very pretty, they have very long headtubes, and the proportions don't look as beautiful as smaller sizes.

Look at the difference in these sizes:

Big Concept Frame (http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/june/BMitchell.htm)
Small Size Frame (http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/mar/EricWolforth.htm)

**** the "everyone has them" talk.
Get what you want.

you dont want to use a messenger ring, they are too small. Compact drive trains on the track are the worst...

Yeah the messenger ring was for the street runs, I gotta learn to spin in the worst way, I rode my old track bike only on the streets with 49X15 and can't spin worth crap now. I have some other QBP and FSA rings that are my track gearing kit.