Just wondering about the bike shorts issue... POLL

[caloso]

Me too. And I start sweating earlier. A friend who's an exercise scientist (well, okay I think they used to call this a PE major) said that your hypothalmus recognizes the elevated heartrate and says "okay boys, open the floodgates!"

[noisebeam]

Me too. And I start sweating earlier. A friend who's an exercise scientist (well, okay I think they used to call this a PE major) said that your hypothalmus recognizes the elevated heartrate and says "okay boys, open the floodgates!"
Here is another hint that the more fit, the sooner and the more sweat:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1608/is_3_19/ai_97390090
"IN WARM CONDITIONS, men can lose between one and 2 1/2 liters of sweat during each hour of training. A greater degree of fitness--or moving to a hotter climate--can increase sweat production to two or three liters per hour."
But I say 'hint' as it would be nice to find some original studies.

Al

[pedex]

Well I know I sweat more now than I used to when out of shape.
Al


but what kind of shape are you in, the 3k-5k per year riding shape, the 10k per year riding shape, the 15k per year riding shape, or the 18-20k per year race pro type shape?

easy to misunderstand and overestimate the exercise one percieves to get from riding, riding is a very unforgiving and vicious sport, takes gobs of miles and time to even make a dent in fitness

[noisebeam]

but what kind of shape are you in, the 3k-5k per year riding shape, the 10k per year riding shape, the 15k per year riding shape, or the 18-20k per year race pro type shape?

easy to misunderstand and overestimate the exercise one percieves to get from riding, riding is a very unforgiving and vicious sport, takes gobs of miles and time to even make a dent in fitness
Should this be a pissing match about who is fitter and therefore more qualified to know, or who is able to surf the net quicker and find studies, articles, etc. ;)

All in fun.

Al

[pedex]

no, not the point im getting at here, I used to think the same as your suggesting in these "studies", heck I thought I was in decent shape after a couple years and 20k miles, bzzzzzt, not even close, I was just getting started.........and that is the point, cycling takes lots and lots of time and miles, you just cant do it any other way, want fitness faster, take up running or rowing

all I can do is relay what Ive been thru, and in my case it wasnt exactly voluntary, that helped the situation, Ive just run into way too many folks that think "ya im getting in good shape", only to find out they ride irregularly and are still in base mileage mode and never get out of it........they just dont know whats out there in the land of fitness and what it can do

[cyclezealot]

I think we make too much of unimportant differences. Different kinds of riders have different needs. Utility vs endurance. and some have different tolerances for pain.
I misread the comment about mesh seats and bent bikes. I thought it to mean those new style "mesh saddles' for road bikes. Very flexible, but shaped like a traditional saddle.
Seems they have a weight restriction of 200 pounds. I am now considerable less than that. They are so pliable, it's like sitting on air.
Think one gets their soft tissue all twisted up on one of those after 100 miles.

[cudak888]

"IN WARM CONDITIONS, men can lose between one and 2 1/2 liters of sweat during each hour of training. A greater degree of fitness--or moving to a hotter climate--can increase sweat production to two or three liters per hour." But I say 'hint' as it would be nice to find some original studies.

I believe it.

For that matter, I'll provide an "original study": Wrestling the stuck alloy seatpost out of my 1985 Raleigh Super Course in my workbench vise last evening. Temp. was around 80-85 degrees Fahrenheit. Two hours later, the seatpost was out in one piece, and my slacks were soaked (yes, I wear slacks for just about anything). Probably about five-six liters of sweat when all was said and done - Yech!

-Kurt

[I-Like-To-Bike]

Different kinds of riders have different needs. Utility vs endurance. and some have different tolerances for pain.
+1. Are you the same cyclezealot who posts on the commuter forum?;)

[-=£em in Pa=-]

I know this will not be well accepted and offensive to some
but I never sweat really hard and never have an oder. Even riding the
inefficient, impossible to pedal, for-posing only, torture fixie :roflmao:
I attribute this to being vegitarian. All the Veggies I know have
the same qualities of less sweat and less oder than the carnivors.
I am not a PETArd and never push an agenda. Just my observation.

[Roody]

I sweat a lot less now that I'm in better shape and very acclimated to whatever the weather gods throw at me. One nice thing about cycling is that you make your own breeze to evaporate the sweat and cool you down.

Back on topic, I'm a utility cyclist (mostly) and I always wear cycling shorts, even for a 2 mile ride. For one thing, sometimes a 2 mile ride stretches into a 20 mile ride. Bike shorts are just so much more comfortable, I can't ride without them.

I don't feel comfortable going into a store, the library or my workplace dressed only in spandex, so I wear baggy shorts over them in the city.

Unlike pedex, I find bike shorts to be a practical item in the winter too, under long johns and long pants.

[PaulH]

"Who wears short shorts?
We wear short shorts
They're such short shorts
We like short shorts
Who wears short shorts?
We wear short shorts".

The Royal Teens, 1958

This song keps running through my head whenever I encounter this thread. It's nice to find an amusing and fun topic.

I'm pretty much a "pure" utility cyclist, which is to say all my rides are for transportation. The only time I am on a bike without a necktie is when I am at the beach. I don't own any bike clothing, and my bike is not intended to require it. Just imagine a typical Dutch commuter, only in DC and traveling a bit longer. I checked "My ride is very short, and I wear office clothes", and my commute is about 11 miles round trip. Tqkes about 35-40 minutes each way. The longest one way trip I make is 8 miles. That's still not going very far, but maybe I get bonus points for carrying a child.

We all do what works best for us. Not sure if my practice is a guide to anyone.

Paul

[I-Like-To-Bike]

I know this will not be well accepted and offensive to some
but I never sweat really hard and never have an oder. Even riding the
inefficient, impossible to pedal, for-posing only, torture fixie :roflmao:
I attribute this to being vegitarian. All the Veggies I know have
the same qualities of less sweat and less oder than the carnivors.

:roflmao:Not offensive at all, makes perfect sense considering your other penchant. :roflmao:

[cyclezealot]

[QUOTE=I-Like-To-Bike. Are you the same cyclezealot who posts on the commuter forum?;)[/QUOTE]
No not really. I sense those who are not endurance riders, make snide remarks about cycling shorts and accuse those of being wannabe's who ride in bike shorts and colored jerseys used to ward off mad dog motorists . We require what we find comfortable for our needs. Thats all I have ever felt. Hope I have never infered one can't stride atop a bike in required clothes.
Some old saying something like judge not , ...be not judged.