Foo - Soccer ("futball") is incredibly boring. Real Football starts in August!

Bikeforums.net is a forum about nothing but bikes. Our community can help you find information about hard-to-find and localized information like bicycle tours, specialties like where in your area to have your recumbent bike serviced, or what are the best bicycle tires and seats for the activities you use your bike for.
So I'm sitting here at my office with a lot of foreigners and they are going nuts over World Cup Soccer, er, "futball". :rolleyes: I tried watching soccer but found it absolutely boring. I even went to the 3rd place World Cup Soccer game back when it was in the US at the Rose Bowl (Sweden vs. Bulgaria) and still found it dull - the only thing of interest were the Scandinavian girls in the crowd. :D
These soccer guys run around and kick the ball back and forth and maybe, just maybe kick it into the net. The vast majority of the game is spent kicking the ball to each other. ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz BORING! Where are the hits? Where are the tackles? Where are the smashes? Where's the violence? Most importantly, where's the excitement?
Girls play soccer, MEN play football. :p
Keith99
06-09-06, 11:11 AM
Real football is year round and real men don't wear pads and rest after 15 seconds or less of action.
Try Rugby.
TexasGuy
06-09-06, 11:13 AM
So I'm sitting here at my office with a lot of foreigners and they are going nuts over World Cup Soccer, er, "futball". :rolleyes: I tried watching soccer but found it absolutely boring. I even went to the 3rd place World Cup Soccer game back when it was in the US at the Rose Bowl (Sweden vs. Bulgaria) and still found it dull - the only thing of interest were the Scandinavian girls in the crowd. :D
These soccer guys run around and kick the ball back and forth and maybe, just maybe kick it into the net. The vast majority of the game is spent kicking the ball to each other. ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz BORING! Where are the hits? Where are the tackles? Where are the smashes? Where's the violence? Most importantly, where's the excitement?
Girls play soccer, MEN play football. :p
heh.
USAZorro
06-09-06, 11:23 AM
Soccer is far from boring, but it helps to have some appreciation for the rules and difficulty of the game. And if you think that soccer is for girls, then it ought to be a breeze for you to excel at no? :)
I guarantee you that if you forced a bunch of NFL linemen on the field and made them play soccer against a good High School team (let alone college or professionals), they'd either:
A. Lose horribly
B. Be carted off with heart attacks
C. Receive red cards (that means you're kicked out of the game)
D. any combination of the above
Soccer is a physically demanding game. Football is a physically punishing game.
In football there's more suspense, different kinds of plays, and loads of tactics.
Ha, turn the table and put those soccer players in a man's football game and they will be severely injured or possibly die.
I just don't get how the vast majority of the world can find this interesting. The only strategies in soccer are (a) center the ball on the goal so it can be kicked in; and (b) when you have the lead, kick the ball back and forth to each other in midfield to waste time. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz BORING!
free_pizza
06-09-06, 11:43 AM
Where are the hits? Where are the tackles? Where are the smashes? Where's the violence? Most importantly, where's the excitement?
Girls play soccer, MEN play football. :p
Ive played a lot of soccer in my day, i can uderstand that you find soccer boring, but you are being pretty ignorant about it.
There is the odd time in American Football where someone really gets hammered with a lid-lifting hit, but for the most part, they seem like pretty harmless tackles, and with the aid of a LOT of padding, they dont hurt much.
I would much rather take one of those tackles than a hard soccer tackle, they can mess you up real good.
Where is the violence? Yeah, soccer riots never happen do they?!
Excitement? its hard to come by when you are watching it on tv, but some games are fantastic. If you feel like it, watch the Barcelona/Chelsea champions league quarter final? (someone correct me on this one) from 2005, one of the best 2-leg matches i have ever seen...
And finally, if you think only girls play this game, check this link out... (for anyone who doesnt like looking at horrific injuries, dont click on the link) http://www.360soccer.com/resource/bussted.html
This is not a rare injury in soccer.
Give me the world cup final over the superbowl any day of the week.
TexasGuy
06-09-06, 11:44 AM
Okay
FYI
ALL Sports ****ing suck.
They're boring as god admn ****ing ****.
The only thing that makes sports the least bit interesting, and usually its very interesting is when I'm watching it with my Dad and he's explaining everything that is going on.
I was actually watching and enjoying softball (and more then just the cute girls :D oooh llalalala ) but actually enjoying the game because my dad was explaining everything that went on.
So there :) You have it. :D
TexasGuy
06-09-06, 11:45 AM
Ive played a lot of soccer in my day, i can uderstand that you find soccer boring, but you are being pretty ignorant about it.
There is the odd time in American Football where someone really gets hammered with a lid-lifting hit, but for the most part, they seem like pretty harmless tackles, and with the aid of a LOT of padding, they dont hurt much.
I would much rather take one of those tackles than a hard soccer tackle, they can mess you up real good.
Where is the violence? Yeah, soccer riots never happen do they?!
Excitement? its hard to come by when you are watching it on tv, but some games are fantastic. If you feel like it, watch the Barcelona/Chelsea champions league quarter final? (someone correct me on this one) from 2005, one of the best 2-leg matches i have ever seen...
And finally, if you think only girls play this game, check this link out... http://www.360soccer.com/resource/bussted.html
This is not a rare injury in soccer.
Give me the world cup final over the superbowl any day of the week.
You've obviously not been watching football heh. There has been a dramatic increase in injuries and what not in the last couple of years. Alot of these players that do stupid stuff get lucky that they
a) aren't called on stupid illegal moves
b) that the stupid illegal move doesn't kill the person they put it on.
USAZorro
06-09-06, 11:45 AM
In football there's more suspense, different kinds of plays, and loads of tactics.
There are plays and loads of tactics in soccer too. You may not be familiar enough with the game to recognize it, but that doesn't make it not so. Soccer, in many ways requires more thinking and focus. Play only stops at the half, when there's a foul, a score, or when the ball goes out of play. One "play" dynamically merges into another, and the whole situation can change in less than a second.
jyossarian
06-09-06, 11:45 AM
HAH! Turn the table and put American football players in an Australian Rules football game and they'll be carted off bleeding from the ears or after suffering massive heart attacks. Imagine needing the stamina and endurance soccer players require to run around all day, but need the size and strength of football players. Remove all the padding and let the players run full steam into each other, don't stop the game due to injured players and add in those cool guys that signal goals and you've got a somewhat interesting game. Add in tons of beer and meatpies and you've got a great game!
Germany 4 - Costa Rica 2 in the 87th minute.
TexasGuy
06-09-06, 11:48 AM
Ehh those players could easily do that heh. Sine they wouldn't have all the equipment. Those football players run the length with probably 50 lbs of equipment :)
Granted the influx in 200-300lbs+ players that have recently taken over the league in the last couple of years - yes alot of these people wouldn't make it. But the league say 10 years ago - they could have easily don it.
free_pizza
06-09-06, 11:50 AM
TG, im not saying there isnt a lot of injuries in football too, but this mac character is being pretty ignorant about it.
IMO, rugby and aussie rules are by far the toughest sports in the world.
I like football of both the American and international sort. Soccer is a wonderful sport, and rewards paying attention. The strategy is sometimes subtle and involves shifts on the field. A well executed off-side trap is a great thing to behold. The best way to appreciate it is to have played (HS will do). I beg anyone who thinks soccer players are not tough to try playing mid-field sometime. Man that is an exhausting position.
Football (American) is a great TV sport. There is a break every play where you get to spout off about what play they should run or argue what fools they were for not running your play on the last down. Both are great.
Oh and soccer player typically sustain more brain damage than your average prize fighter over a career. A header off the foot of a pro player must be quite a jolt.
USAZorro
06-09-06, 11:56 AM
Ha, turn the table and put those soccer players in a man's football game and they will be severely injured or possibly die.
I just don't get how the vast majority of the world can find this interesting. The only strategies in soccer are (a) center the ball on the goal so it can be kicked in; and (b) when you have the lead, kick the ball back and forth to each other in midfield to waste time. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz BORING!
You're right. They are completely different games. What makes a good soccer player, does not make a good football player, and vice-versa. Nobody's saying that you should like soccer as much as football, or that you need to like it at all. You're certainly entitled to your opinions, but dissing something because you don't understand it, or don't like it isn't the way to go IMO. I don't enjoy watching hockey, but I don't make fun of them for wearing "girly" skates and pads and taking breaks every 2-3 minutes.
Girls play soccer, MEN play football. :p
Say that in an English pub, funboy! :D ;)
Seriously, though? proper football > American football
DEAL with it!
Eatadonut
06-09-06, 12:10 PM
You're right. They are completely different games. What makes a good soccer player, does not make a good football player, and vice-versa. Nobody's saying that you should like soccer as much as football, or that you need to like it at all. You're certainly entitled to your opinions, but dissing something because you don't understand it, or don't like it isn't the way to go IMO. I don't enjoy watching hockey, but I don't make fun of them for wearing "girly" skates and pads and taking breaks every 2-3 minutes.
That's because there's nothing girly about Hockey. Sure, people "hit" each other all the time in other sports, but in what other sport is there actual fistfighting? Lacrosse or Jai'alai are probably the other two sports that the amount of pain you might receive is ridiculous.
Besides, I've never seen anyone in hockey, soccer, or even ribbon dancing go out for 9 months with "turf toe", and still keep a multi-million dollar contract.
There are plays and loads of tactics in soccer too. One "play" dynamically merges into another, and the whole situation can change in less than a second.
There may be some plays in soccer, but they are all BORING. The whole concept of kicking a ball around and not being able to hit someone is what makes it a sport for girls. Men aren't afraid of being hit. I still don't see how this sport is popular around the world. Don't most people like to see combat?
I beg anyone who thinks soccer players are not tough to try playing mid-field sometime. Man that is an exhausting position.
My office sometimes plays soccer as a "team-building" experience. They kept on asking me to go play with them so I finally did. (How come they don't wear mouthpieces?) They put me at midfield and said to stop the guys with the ball. So these little guys start playing twinkle-toes with their fancy footwork and kept kicking the ball past me. Imagine smaller, weaker guys getting past me. I still remember my football coach - "HIT HIM AND TAKE HIM DOWN!" So then next time I, literally, ran into him and knocked him flat on his butt and took the ball. Now that's how to play! Yeah! For some reason I was called for a penalty. :D So they put me as goalkeeper. Whenever someone got close to the goal, I'd dive on the ball and knock over anyone in the way. :D So they removed me from the game and never asked me to play again. :p
Olebiker
06-09-06, 12:21 PM
ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz BORING!
Of course it's boring. Have you ever watched an English Premiership match (that's what they call a game)on television? The games are so boring that even the fans aren't watching the game. They keep themselves awake singing their team songs, getting drunk, and fighting with everyone they can get their hands on. :D
Ha, turn the table and put those soccer players in a man's football game and they will be severely injured or possibly die.
I just don't get how the vast majority of the world can find this interesting. The only strategies in soccer are (a) center the ball on the goal so it can be kicked in; and (b) when you have the lead, kick the ball back and forth to each other in midfield to waste time. ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz BORING!
Let's see... soccer is a game that goes pretty much continously for the duration of the game with one intermission (halftime). Football is a game that takes 4+ hours to play 60 minutes of the game. Run a few seconds, maybe a minute if there's a break then stop for a few seconds or a few minutes. move the ball 10 yards and the officials stop the game to move chains and all. Officials spot the ball by eye, but then grab a chain and make a great show of moving the chains out and declaring the ball didn't make the 1st down by inches. Yeah... because the game is that precise.
Strategies and tactics that are stupid? Let's see... if a team is ahead near the end of the game (or half, even) and gets possession, they drop to a knee to down the ball repeatedly to run the clock out. Or run ground plays (safe ones, conservative ones designed not to score, but keep the ball inbounds) so you can waste time and run down the clock. Shouldn't this team be going all out for another TD or FG in the spirit of competition? How is this any different than kicking the ball back and forth?
Teams that are trying to catch up do much the same. Call a pass play and if you don't like the way things are developing, throw the ball out of bounds - oh, no, that's not intentional grounding; he overthrew the receiver - to get a free timeout.
And a different team - specialty team - for every part of play. Kickoff team, punt team, kickoff return team, punt return team, offense, defense etc. means no one plays more than, what, half the game at the very most??
Fair catch? Touchback? Bah. All p***y rules in a game that's about, to use your word, violence.
The Superbowl's only fun because of the commercials and the parties usually going on, otherwise, it'd be just another boring 4 hours of TV.
(edit)
Men aren't afraid of being hit
Fair catch. Roughing the kicker. Roughing the quarterback....
Plus the fact that every square inch of their bodies is covered in body armor, pads and helmets. You're not hitting a man, you're hitting his pads. If your momentum is enough, down he goes.
For the record, I don't find soccer much more entertaining, but to say football is so much better? Bah.
The Superbowl's only fun because of the commercials and the parties usually going on, otherwise, it'd be just another boring 4 hours of TV.
Very true! :D
Keith99
06-09-06, 12:44 PM
Soccer is far from boring, but it helps to have some appreciation for the rules and difficulty of the game. And if you think that soccer is for girls, then it ought to be a breeze for you to excel at no? :)
I guarantee you that if you forced a bunch of NFL linemen on the field and made them play soccer against a good High School team (let alone college or professionals), they'd either:
A. Lose horribly
B. Be carted off with heart attacks
C. Receive red cards (that means you're kicked out of the game)
D. any combination of the above
Soccer is a physically demanding game. Football is a physically punishing game.
I don't think so if I get to pick the right bunch of linemen and have a little time to train them. Give me Deacon Jones in his prime and the players on national teams that missed qualifying for the world cup would have a hard time marking him.
American football is a MONEY game as is European soccer. The top players in either will do quite well at the middle levels of most any sport just because they are basically great athletes. Not because of the sports as sport but becasue they are where the money and fame are and that attracts the best.
DataJunkie
06-09-06, 12:45 PM
I can't stand any sports on tv.
Booooorrrrrriiinnnnngggggggg!
I used to watch nascar but lost interest.
I barely watched 1/4 of a game of football each year.
It usually results in "this is the same crap when I quit watching 10 years ago".
Hockey is fun live. On tv boorrrrriiinnnnngggg.
Cycling is about the only thing I have any interest in watching. However, OLN would cost me like $30 or $40 more a month. I don't think so.
Don't even get me started on basketball...ugh!
Highschool football on espn30000 at 3:00am is sort of interesting.
USAZorro
06-09-06, 12:48 PM
There may be some plays in soccer, but they are all BORING. The whole concept of kicking a ball around and not being able to hit someone is what makes it a sport for girls. Men aren't afraid of being hit. I still don't see how this sport is popular around the world. Don't most people like to see combat?
My office sometimes plays soccer as a "team-building" experience. They kept on asking me to go play with them so I finally did. (How come they don't wear mouthpieces?) They put me at midfield and said to stop the guys with the ball. So these little guys start playing twinkle-toes with their fancy footwork and kept kicking the ball past me. Imagine smaller, weaker guys getting past me. I still remember my football coach - "HIT HIM AND TAKE HIM DOWN!" So then next time I, literally, ran into him and knocked him flat on his butt and took the ball. Now that's how to play! Yeah! For some reason I was called for a penalty. :D So they put me as goalkeeper. Whenever someone got close to the goal, I'd dive on the ball and knock over anyone in the way. :D So they removed me from the game and never asked me to play again. :p
mac, I'm curious to hear your approach to cycling. Don't know that I'd feel safe in a paceline with you. :D
<edit> Human beings are intelligent enough to prolong their lives by avoiding repeated and violent stress on their bodies. I have played football and soccer, but I weigh a buck sixty five. Why would I want to get knocked down by someone twice my size?
My co-workers are now watching a rebroadcast of today's World Cup Soccer game. So I watched a little bit of it. What a bunch of wimps!!! These guys just get bumped a little bit, but they fall over and stay down until the ref comes over. Come on, suck it up and play! When I got knocked the hell out in football, coach would pour water over my face and ask if I can still play. I'd shout "YES SIR!", jump up, and run back on the field. Football players get bloodied up, banged up, bruised up, but still go out on the field for combat. Now tell me which sport has tougher players.
Now they are kicking the ball back and forth to each other. Back and forth. Back and forth. Oops, someone just got bumped, fell down, and got a boo-boo. :p Okay, now it's back to kicking the ball back and forth to each other.... :rolleyes:
Geeze, for the next month I'm going to have to listen to nothing but soccer talk around the office. NFL pre-season can't come fast enough!
Cromulent
06-09-06, 12:50 PM
My co-workers are now watching a rebroadcast of today's World Cup Soccer game. So I watched a little bit of it. What a bunch of wimps!!! These guys just get bumped a little bit, but they fall over and stay down until the ref comes over.
That's not wimpiness. That's acting!!!
Well what are they waiting for? The ref to pat their bottoms, rub their tummies, kiss their boo-boo's, and tell them it's going to be okay? :p
USAZorro
06-09-06, 12:55 PM
My co-workers are now watching a rebroadcast of today's World Cup Soccer game. So I watched a little bit of it. What a bunch of wimps!!! These guys just get bumped a little bit, but they fall over and stay down until the ref comes over. Come on, suck it up and play! When I got knocked the hell out in football, coach would pour water over my face and ask if I can still play. I'd shout "YES SIR!", jump up, and run back on the field. Football players get bloodied up, banged up, bruised up, but still go out on the field for combat. Now tell me which sport has tougher players.
Now they are kicking the ball back and forth to each other. Back and forth. Back and forth. Oops, someone just got bumped, fell down, and got a boo-boo. :p Okay, now it's back to kicking the ball back and forth to each other.... :rolleyes:
Geeze, for the next month I'm going to have to listen to nothing but soccer talk around the office. NFL pre-season can't come fast enough!
Beats working though doesn't it? :D
Actually, no. I find soccer so boring that time passes even more slowly than if I was working. Seriously.
USAZorro
06-09-06, 12:57 PM
That's not wimpiness. That's acting!!!
Acting is a yellow card offense. That is something that tends to get out of hand.
USAZorro
06-09-06, 12:58 PM
Actually, no. I find soccer so boring that time passes even more slowly than if I was working. Seriously.
Good thing we're here for you bro. :)
TexasGuy
06-09-06, 01:29 PM
OMG it hurts it hurts. I think i broke my toe.
baj32161
06-09-06, 02:59 PM
Hurlng;) :D
free_pizza
06-09-06, 03:13 PM
Hurlng;) :D
I would've put that in, but im sure 98% of people on this forum dont know what it is.
jyossarian
06-09-06, 04:18 PM
I sort of agree w/ mac. I'd like to see more physical contact in the following sports:
bowling
curling
surfing
figure skating
If those sports allowed physical contact, I'd watch them more often.
figure skating
Figure Skating is for already for girls. That's why ladies figure skating is the most popular Winter Olympics sport in the US. :)
Figure Skating is for already for girls. That's why ladies figure skating is the most popular Winter Olympics sport in the US. :)
Silence yourself and turn on the French Open, girlyman! :mad:
peregrine
06-09-06, 04:59 PM
Oh come on people! Just stop feeding the troll
Oh come on people! Just stop feeding the troll
But he's hungry! :(
Jerseysbest
06-09-06, 05:32 PM
Do any of you play or have played these sports in other than youth leagues or cranky-old-men leagues? Don't talk about how hard either one is, cause if you didn't, there's no way you can tell by just watching it.
And saying one sport is better than another is like saying the 400m hurdles is way better than the 100m dash cause its so much longer and harder since the 100m only takes less than 10 seconds.
Yeah, soccer's hard, you're constantly running around, you gotta constantly know what everyone's doing etc. In American Football, plays may last only a few seconds, but you're pretty much giving it all every play, a full out sprint to knock guys down, and full force to push people out of the way who are also doing their best to avoid you. And thens there's rubgy where's its a mix of the two. Take your pick, then be quite and drink your (foreign or domestic) beer
Heck, I think wreslting is harder and more entertaining then all these sports. It only lasts 6 minutes, buts its quite possibly the hardest 6 minutes of your life. I've played all these sports, some on the college level, and I think theres no comparison when it comes to wrestling
*waits for idiots comment about how gay wreslting is cause they wear tights and roll around on a mat with another guy*
Keith99
06-09-06, 05:42 PM
Well I tried a few sports at reasonable levels. Did a bit of Wrestling, the real kind. It is far from easy. I also play Rugby (for over 30 years). But if I wanted to pick the sport where I could make the guy off the street wince just thinking about it I'd go with water polo. Each sport has it's hard points. Actually by one measure road cycling and water polo rank pretty high in difficulty, in that either can be hard to just survive if you are not properly trained, no matter what the opposition is. Rugby, Soccer, American Football and Wrestling are all very easy to survive as long as your competition is less able than you are.
But if we are talking about doing things at the top level any of these and even many 'easy' sports are killers.
ElJamoquio
06-09-06, 08:16 PM
They keep themselves awake singing their team songs, getting drunk, and fighting with everyone they can get their hands on. :D
Huh. Sounds like American Football to me. And Soccer. And Baseball...
and got a boo-boo.
Ahahah
I think Lacrosse is one of the most physically demanding sport.
Serendipper
06-10-06, 12:24 AM
maaaaac...buddy, you are quite the jackass.
Come play a pick up game with the russians and polskis I run with, and see what us "girls" plays like.:beer:
No pads. No refs. No excuses.
Ever had spikes to the knee?:)
mechBgon
06-10-06, 12:47 AM
In the general spirit of this thread, imitation maple syrup is much better than that sissy stuff they make from tree sap, too :D Mapleine FTW!!
*flees*
Everyone likes their own sports, so please...
Some male ego trip I think!
I have finally found one thing interesting in soccer :D
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20060610/i/742691678.jpg
Actually, I'm enjoying rubbing in the losses to my foreign co-workers who were cheering for their home countries. :p
Now, everyone, do the Crouch. Doesn't he remind you of Mike Myers in his SNL skit "Sprockets"?
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20060605/i/r498559717.jpghttp://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/afp/20060601/capt.sge.cnu39.010606201208.photo00.photo.default-383x512.jpg
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20060603/i/r1021879241.jpg
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20060610/capt.wcfra21206101601.wcup_world_cup_soccerengland_paraguay_wcfra212.jpg
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.12 Copyright © 2013 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.