Classic & Vintage - Fuji Monterey 10 Speed Road Bike

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roccobike
06-21-06, 09:15 PM
On one of my recent garage sale tours, I picked up a filthy, old, Fuji Monterey classic 10 speed. The bike was covered with brown rust and I kicked myself all the way home for buying this thing. When I wiped off the dust from the frame, I noticed all the 'rust' came off with the cleaning rag. It wasn't rust that covered this bike, it was sawdust turned brown that apparently helped prevent rust. Incredibly, when I removed the sawdust, the bike underneath came up a shiny black bike with chrome rims. I always wanted a black 10 speed and now I finally obtained one. The tires, rim tape and deraileur cable had to be replaced. But the bike polished up very nicely, with very few scratches on the frame. I've taken it out for a few rides. This is not the best handling bike, to be honest, it's a little clumsy. I'm betting T-Mar is going to confirm that the Monterey was a low end Fuji, possibly an entry level bike. The chrome, steel handlebars and stem shifters also indicate low end. But its all original including the seat and it looks great!! The components date this bike as a 1982 model. I'm having a little fun with it for now. Too bad this wasn't a high end bike, but I didn't pay much for it so I'm real happy with it.
silversmith
06-22-06, 12:20 AM
steel handlebars
Are they Nitto Olympiade chromed steel bars? I love the set I have off an old mid-range Fuji.
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On second look, those bars look more like Sakae Champions. They have a chromed sleeve and zinc-plated bars.
The Monterey is a midrange below Sagres. I think they were with Fuji's proprietary Valite tubing.
It ought to be, and looks to be, a decent riding bike.
peripatetic
06-22-06, 07:21 AM
What was the deal with the model name, "Monterey?" I saw another brand bike recently, also called a "Monterey," from roughly the same period. Was this a reference to the town in California, or to the Spanish word, "King of the Mountain?" Seems like a strange one to be recycled.
roccobike
06-22-06, 05:23 PM
Are they Nitto Olympiade chromed steel bars? I love the set I have off an old mid-range Fuji.
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On second look, those bars look more like Sakae Champions. They have a chromed sleeve and zinc-plated bars.
The Monterey is a midrange below Sagres. I think they were with Fuji's proprietary Valite tubing.
It ought to be, and looks to be, a decent riding bike.
Your first hunch was very close silversmith, the bars are Nitto B111. The stem is Nitto alloy. You were right about the tubing too, it's butted Valite 414. For the rest of the components, the rear Deraileur is a Suntour AR, the stem shifters are Suntour, the crank is a Sugino, can't find the model, the rims are UKAIRM (I think, hard to read). The steel rims may not be desirable, but these are in nearly new condition, no pitting bright and shiny. The brakes system is all Dia-Compe including the suicide bars. One thing I don't understand. I find it hard to believe that FUJI made a 10-speed in 1982 while other brands were turning out 12 speeds. I find it more likely that I've got the date wrong, but the letters on both deraileurs line up with 1982. If anyone can shed light on this I would appreciate it.
roccobike
06-22-06, 05:25 PM
What was the deal with the model name, "Monterey?" I saw another brand bike recently, also called a "Monterey," from roughly the same period. Was this a reference to the town in California, or to the Spanish word, "King of the Mountain?" Seems like a strange one to be recycled.
Sorry, can't help. I know that Fuji kept the name and made hybrid bikes that were quite popular with the name Monterey. I'm sure they are referring to the town in California. Or maybe they were referring to the 1956 Mercury 4 door hardtop? ............NAH!
silversmith
06-23-06, 12:02 AM
Roccobike,
I shoulda stuck with my first thought. And those Nitto steel bars are good steel bars.
I also like the AR derailleurs. I have one on my Fuji 12 speed and I even have one on my Litage!
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j72/martinheldt/bluffbike.jpg
roccobike
06-23-06, 03:36 PM
Roccobike,
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j72/martinheldt/bluffbike.jpg
Nice Ride silversmith. Are those 700c rims? If yes, what kind?
silversmith
06-23-06, 09:10 PM
Thanks Roccobike.
Yes, they are 700c Sun M13II's, 18mm simple box rims with 36 eyeleted holes laced 3x to Shimano 2200 hubs.
They've held up pretty well to my 215-220 lbs.
2Wheeling
10-29-06, 06:46 AM
I recently purchased a Fuji Monterey on Ebay identical to the one you have posted on your thread. I was skeptical about purchasing it since I could not find alot of information on the internet. I was familiar with the outstanding craftsmanship of Fuji bikes so I went ahead and bought it at a fairly reasonable price I thought. I am waiting for it to come in and I was wondering since you have owned your bike for some time now would you care to shed some light on what you think of it as far as ride, comfort and dependability goes. Also would you have any idea what these bikes sold for new and were you able to pinpoint the year in which yours was made? Thanks
roccobike
11-05-06, 10:26 AM
I recently purchased a Fuji Monterey on Ebay identical to the one you have posted on your thread. I was skeptical about purchasing it since I could not find alot of information on the internet. I was familiar with the outstanding craftsmanship of Fuji bikes so I went ahead and bought it at a fairly reasonable price I thought. I am waiting for it to come in and I was wondering since you have owned your bike for some time now would you care to shed some light on what you think of it as far as ride, comfort and dependability goes. Also would you have any idea what these bikes sold for new and were you able to pinpoint the year in which yours was made? Thanks
First, I apologize for not posting earlier, but I was not checking the Vintage forum every day and missed your post.
I find the Fuji Monterey to be very comfortable. The Valite tubing is flexible for a mid range, early, 10speed bike. As for the fit and finish, I think you are correct Fuji is a class act that made and makes very nice bikes especially their road bikes. As for dependability, what can I say, it's a rock, no problems at all. Those old Suntour deraileurs are super reliable and the gears and chain mesh very nicely on my bike.
As I said previously, the only drawback this bike has is handling. I've experimented with different wheels. I tried changing those 27" chrome rims with alloy, 700C rims with 28mm tires and a six speed freewheel. The Monterey was a different bike with that change. It was fast, handled well, but not quite as smooth a ride. And, good news, the brakes on the Monterey can be adjusted to operate with 700C rims.
I returned the chrome rims to my bike because I have other road bikes and I'm keeping this Fuji as a sort of all original, vintage bike. I'm lucky to have enough space to do that. However, I did change the 27" tires to Kenda high pressure (90 psi) tires. With all due respect to those who have posted not to inflate non-hooked bead rims above 75psi, I went with the manufacturers recommended pressure of 90 psi and have had no problems. This tire change also improved the handling a little bit.
The only other changes I would consider for this bike is changing out those chrome bars for a nice set of Nitto or Champion alloy bars that are period correct along with aero brake levers (that are not period correct) to improve braking. By the way, you may want to consider changing the brake pads. If you can't find the original, rectangle type pads, try All Star Bikes in Cary, NC. They sell them for cheap and I'm sure they'll mail you a set for a reasonable handling charge if you call them. Best of luck 2Wheeling, enjoying your Fuji Monterey.
2Wheeling
11-05-06, 02:20 PM
Sure do appreciate the information!!! Nice to find fellow cyclists that share the same views in regards to these older vintage bikes.
reverborama
11-05-06, 02:27 PM
I also ride a couple of old Fujis -- as do others on this forum. I picked up a Fuji Supreme, also made with VALite tubing, for $75. It was in excellent condition and aside from replacing the saddle, the bar tape, the brake pads, and the tires, I've had to do nothing to it. It is a beautiful bike and I have no problems keeping up with anyone on their $1500+ road bikes. I think Fujis are about the best value on the used market. They are plentiful, cheap, and well made.
Consider getting Kool-Stop Continental brake pads (the salmon colored ones). That improved my braking 100%.
roccobike
11-05-06, 04:41 PM
Consider getting Kool-Stop Continental brake pads (the salmon colored ones). That improved my braking 100%.
+1 on the Koolstop pads, much better than the original pads.
hackybiker
11-05-06, 06:36 PM
I have a Fuji Regis, a model that is more difficult to find information about than the Monterey or Del Rey. Here's a pic: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5193/3785/1600/regis.jpg
I've since changed out man of the components to make it a trusty all-around city bike. I love the frame.
Does anyone know of any info on the different varieties of VALite tubing? Mine is 414 also, and I'm curious where that fits in. I'm guessing it's lower-end stuff.
bigm141414
04-08-07, 03:02 PM
What are the orignal rim sizes for the Monterey? 700c or something different? I picked one up on eBay and the seller didn't know and I haven't found any information on the web.
Little Darwin
04-08-07, 03:14 PM
I can not be definitive, but that doesn't usually stop me.
Since it had steel rims, I would say it probably came with 27" wheels. I don't recall ever seeing 700c steel rims.
matt0ne
06-08-07, 06:05 AM
I also picked up a fuji monterey from a bike sale at our local St. Vincent's for $35. It took me a while to find out what it was. Its a larger bike than yours.
There are a few other differences too. I have center-pull calipers brakes on both front and back and running suntour derailleurs all around.
My plan is to strip the bike down and go single speed with it. Then in the fall, work on the frame.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/249/535790822_2b56fa1290.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/204/535790816_dbcea1aece.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/222/535790808_a8a23b3478.jpg
Tommy Peters
08-29-07, 05:05 PM
I just bought a run down (rain soaked for years) Monterey and the threads have got me excited - I thank anyone with a Fuji advertorial or documentation on this machine.
PlatyPius
12-12-08, 04:01 PM
Add me to the list of those with an old 10 speed Monterey....
Here is a link to your bike:
http://www.classicfuji.com/Monterey_1982_Page.htm
This is the bike I came across two weeks ago and has kept me busy in my workshop virtually every night since. 18 speed. Rides nicely, but I cannot deal with the downtube shifters, so I am converting to bar ends.
http://www.classicfuji.com/S12-SMixte_1982_Page.htm
Fuji put out a lot of bikes with seemingly minor changes to differentiate some of them. For instance, in the same 'deal', I also got a Fuji Berkeley, which specs out almost identical to your Monterey (exception being crank metal).
skywriter
12-13-08, 08:08 PM
I just picked up a Fuji Royale 2 on CL the other weekend for 25 bucks....replaced the tubes, and retaped the bars, put another seat on it and spent 3 hrs cleaning it all up. I just did get a set of tan brake hoods for it yesterday....I am going to order a few sets of gumwalls after the holidays, and replace the ones on it and my trek 700.......all in all though its a sweet ride for 25 bucks....it has anodized aluminum rims......don't know if its because its a slightly higher end bike or what.....:thumb:
Go to
http://www.classicfuji.com/1982_16_RoyaleII&RoyaleIIMixte_Page.htm
Basically looks spec-wise to be my S12 with a double rather than triple chainring.
Where did you get the gum brake hoods?
skywriter
12-13-08, 11:14 PM
mine is a 83 its the oak green color .....they aren't gum, they are tan cane creek generic replacements.....they do look good though for 10 bucks a set.....local place ordered them for me
Blue Order
12-13-08, 11:30 PM
http://www.classicfuji.comThanks for the link. That's an amazing site. If only we had comparable sites for other vintage bikes-- it would make it so much easier to identify and/or restore them.
You are most welcome. I got there from www.velobase.com which is also rich in historical data.
My bike is actually an '81, but the page for that year lacks specifics on the buildup components on the page itself. They are all at the end in a master table.
Strange thing that I found on the classicfuji site. My browser would not allow cut and past to add the frames found there to a .ppt file that I was making to record details to aid my restoration.
PlatyPius
12-15-08, 01:40 AM
You are most welcome. I got there from www.velobase.com which is also rich in historical data.
My bike is actually an '81, but the page for that year lacks specifics on the buildup components on the page itself. They are all at the end in a master table.
Strange thing that I found on the classicfuji site. My browser would not allow cut and past to add the frames found there to a .ppt file that I was making to record details to aid my restoration.
Yeah, they have right-click totally disabled. They're pulling the images with a javascript. I did a screen capture to get the info for my bike. I realize that it took a lot of work to gather all of the info, but I still think it's rather rude to then not allow anyone to grab it for their own use.
cb400bill
12-15-08, 04:47 AM
Yeah, they have right-click totally disabled. They're pulling the images with a javascript. I did a screen capture to get the info for my bike. I realize that it took a lot of work to gather all of the info, but I still think it's rather rude to then not allow anyone to grab it for their own use.
I can't seem to find it now, but I remember seeing on their site that you could buy a CD-ROM with all the site's information.
I grabbed what I needed using 'printscreen exec'. Even then I couldn't use the copy command but instead had to save each capture as a .jpg, and then import them to the .ppt file. Cumbersome, but it worked.
kalifornsky
12-15-08, 09:42 AM
I have a Fuji Regis, a model that is more difficult to find information about than the Monterey or Del Rey. Here's a pic: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5193/3785/1600/regis.jpg
I've since changed out man of the components to make it a trusty all-around city bike. I love the frame.
Does anyone know of any info on the different varieties of VALite tubing? Mine is 414 also, and I'm curious where that fits in. I'm guessing it's lower-end stuff.
i have the same frame and love it. i have since turned it into a fixed gear, which turned out great, especially the handling and lightweight.
http://www.classicfuji.com/1986_20_Regis_Page.htm
Your Regis!
Blue Order
12-15-08, 03:40 PM
Does anyone know of any info on the different varieties of VALite tubing? Mine is 414 also, and I'm curious where that fits in. I'm guessing it's lower-end stuff.VALite was available in butted, double-butted, triple-butted, and quad-butted iterations, the more complex butting indicating a lighter frame. I don't know, but VALite may also have been available as straight gauge tubing. Some of the VALite bikes have hi-ten forks, while the better bikes have VALite forks.
2Wheeling
12-15-08, 04:56 PM
Hey Roccobike,
Sorry it's been awhile since I posted my original thread but I finally got my Fuji Monterey and have been enjoying it ever since. The one I purchased is identical to the one you have and is in prestine condition. Matter of fact the guy I got it off of on Ebay bought it for his son about a month or so before he turned sixteen. So of course a car took priority over the bike and it was covered and hung in the garage with bike hooks til the guy said it was time to clean out his garage. I originally started out with a Raleigh Record from our local bike store and always wanted a Fuji but at that time in my life they were way too pricey. So better late than never and years later I finally got a bike I always wanted. It is all that you said it was and the best seventy-five bucks I ever spent. I appreciate the information. Happy holidays to you and yours and have a safe 2wheeliing always
Anybody know of a source for the big seat tube FUJI decal/sticker? It is color specific to the bike color, and the one on my brown S12-s was peeled off at some time in its life.
lachsmith
06-12-09, 02:18 PM
thanks everybody for all the great info on this thread. I have been riding a black '82 Monterey. As mentioned earlier it is a good idea to upgrade to 700C rims, night and day difference from the original 27s. I bought white Velocity Deep-V rims and they work with the original Dia-Compe calipers
I have been riding a black '82 Monterey. As mentioned earlier it is a good idea to upgrade to 700C rims, night and day difference from the original 27s. I bought white Velocity Deep-V rims and they work with the original Dia-Compe calipers
Seems like the 82 Monterey has VALite tubing but still came with steel rims. So I imagine the upgrade also lightened the bike somewhat.
My son has a black 1980 Monterey which sported a Hi-Ten frame. Surprised that the catalogs put both models at a weight of 29 pounds.
cycleheimer
06-12-09, 04:45 PM
Seems like the 82 Monterey has VALite tubing but still came with steel rims. So I imagine the upgrade also lightened the bike somewhat.
My son has a black 1980 Monterey which sported a Hi-Ten frame. Surprised that the catalogs put both models at a weight of 29 pounds.
This thread is an "oldie but goodie" ... Bona Fide C&V Thread ....
I have seen a few early '80s Montereys pop up on NY Craig's List in the last few weeks. These were entry-level bikes with lower-end components. You wanted the Fuji Newest, but the price was too high for you. The ones I saw were advertised for $200+. They disappeared from CL...and you know what that means.
This thread is an "oldie but goodie" ... Bona Fide C&V Thread ....
I have seen a few early '80s Montereys pop up on NY Craig's List in the last few weeks. These were entry-level bikes with lower-end components. You wanted the Fuji Newest, but the price was too high for you. The ones I saw were advertised for $200+. They disappeared from CL...and you know what that means.
He paid a lot less than $200 for his Monterey. However, I've noticed that even in Des Moines, prices for vintage bikes are climbing this summer. But you could probably get the Monterey for under $100.
I tend to buy my bikes in the winter.
I really like the vintage Fuji site, its one of my favorites. My inventory of Fujis has gotten kind of high right now (four). They made some really good bikes.
I just read an excellent post about "My First Bike" which includes a lovely story about a Fuji from the 1970s.
http://wc1.worldcrossing.com/WebX?14@@.ef2e75f/2
When the next spring came I was riding my clunker Huffy on the C&O Canal Towpath in Georgetown when I stopped by Big Wheel Bikes. They had a beautiful green Fuji S10-S hanging up behind the counter, priced at $229. I asked if I could ride it and they let me.
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! I never knew any bike could feel like that! I had inadvertently stumbled on just about the nicest bike you could buy for any price back in the mid-70s and the first bike sold anywhere with a six-cog freewheel. I only had $25 on me and I asked if the guy would take it and hold that bike for me until my income tax refund came through.
cycleheimer
06-14-09, 06:40 AM
"He paid a lot less than $200 for his Monterey. However, I've noticed that even in Des Moines, prices for vintage bikes are climbing this summer. But you could probably get the Monterey for under $100. I tend to buy my bikes in the winter. "
Right now there isn't that much on Craig's List in New York. Things are pretty dry. Decent bikes that are reasonably priced literally sell in about 2 to 3 hours. Here is one of the $200 Montereys...
Fuji Monterey 67 cm road bike Exc - $200 (Greenwich, CT)
Reply to: sale-jayhh-1219044708@craigslist.org (sale-jayhh-1219044708@craigslist.org?subject=Fuji%20Monterey%2067%20cm%20road%20bike%20Exc%20-%20%24200%20(Greenwich%2C%20CT)) [Errors when replying to ads? (http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/replying_to_posts)]
Date: 2009-06-12, 10:31PM EDT
This is a 67 centimeter Fuji Monterey road bike in very good to excellent condition. This Fuji bike is for sale in Stamford, CT for $200 cash in person at time of pick up.
Location: Greenwich, CT
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
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roccobike
06-14-09, 06:53 AM
I started this thread three years ago (next week 6/21) maybe I should put three candles on a cupcake for it:D.
There were some questions about converting Monterey models with Chrome 27" wheels to 700C. I made this conversion on the black Monterey in the original post back when I owned it. I don't think anyone here would be surprised to find that the change made a night and day difference to the handling of the bike. The 700C wheel set I used was a low end version off a Ross 290 with old, tired 28mm tires. The tires on the 27" chrome rims were brand new Kendas. Still the 700C made it a fast, nice handling bike. I was disappointed with the handling using the original rims. I'm guessing if someone put a nicer set of 700C rims on one with some new tires, it would really change the bikes charachteristics in a very positive way.
2Wheeling
06-14-09, 10:18 AM
For anyone interested in a nice Fuji Monterey there is one posted at the following link on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/FUJI-Monterey-Valite-Tubing-10-Speed-Mens-Bike-SHARP_W0QQitemZ110401977423QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRoad_Bikes?hash=item19b4787c4f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 or the item number is 110401977423.
Glennfordx4
06-15-09, 05:38 AM
I just picked one up for $5 at a auction and it is in good shape for a bike of this vintage in this area except for the original seat which is tore up,I haven't done any research as to what year it is yet.The frame is way to small for me so I have no choice but to flip it,although in this area no one wants old road bikes thats why it only cost me $5.
EDIT By looking at the info here I think it is a 82 also.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm319/Glennfordx4/09BIKEAUCTION001.jpg
lachsmith
06-15-09, 08:49 AM
Seems like the 82 Monterey has VALite tubing but still came with steel rims. So I imagine the upgrade also lightened the bike somewhat.
My son has a black 1980 Monterey which sported a Hi-Ten frame. Surprised that the catalogs put both models at a weight of 29 pounds.
You bet. Its still a bit heavy, but people in their brand new road bikes have trouble keeping up. I also fitted it with an old Brooks saddle and its getting to be a looker without being a trendy fixie. its not exactly all original, but its a pleasure.
noglider
06-15-09, 09:12 AM
Your hunch about this bike is right. Low end but well made and quite reliable. It's sort of the Japanese Varsity. You really can't knock it. Not a special ride, but worthy. You could make it a utility bike or something else. Definitely keep it, and you were very lucky to find it in such good condition.
Maybe we should spray sawdust on our bikes before putting them in long term storage!
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