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Quelph Lake Triathlon...2006

Here are my makeshift stats...as the original copy wouldn't fit...to see more places and more stats...you can check out the original Here (http://www.sportstats.ca/res2006/g1y.htm)

--Final--

OverallPosition 3/285 First podium finish of the season!
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Time 39:35 I broke 40 mins for the first time!
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Swim Time(375m) 8:02 This is decent...I need to work on my swim
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Bike Time(10km) 21:29 Hilly course...slow averages on everybody
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Run Time (2.5 km) 10:05 Great pace, even though I cramped @ end
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Age Group Position 2/17 BOO-YAH! I love getting podium!


This was a great race...sunny...not too hot, not to cold

I was a little disapointed however that they forgot to hand out overall race winner awards...they were sitting right on the table :(

Also, this was a personal best for me!

Wow, thats awesome, 3rd out of 285. I'm doing my first tri in a little less than a month. So far my times are on par for a pretty decent finish (when comparing to last years results). I read in one of your other posts that you prefer Spinergy wheels, what kind of set up do you have on your bike? Also what strategy do you use to budget your energy? Just curious.

First of all...HYDRATE HYDRATE HYDRATE! Start drinking alot of water about a week before your race EVERYDAY...Remember to get to the tri site early, just to get organized. I don't belive in energy drinks or powerbars...take my advice and don't drink gatoraide, poweraide, red bull...just good water. You are going to thank me later, eat plain pasta, for breakfast, lunch and dinner, two days before you race. This will load you up with tonnes of carbohydrates. Try not to eat heavy meats like beef or pork the day before you race, too much protein. Also, try to channel your energy into each stage individually so you don't burn up. And of course, get a couple of good nites rest.

That is pretty much my strategy for all my races. Helps me out. I hope it works for you too. You can always make a new thread for more advice.

And as for the spinergy wheels. I currently have mavic cosmos on my bike, I just like spinergy because of their feel. My coach has Spinergy Rev X wheels..nice and stiff.

Thanks for reading :D

And I almost forgot...visualize your race, make sure you know what you are going to do in, for example the transition. Alot of races are won in the transitions!

--BUMP!--

First of all...HYDRATE HYDRATE HYDRATE! Start drinking alot of water about a week before your race EVERYDAY...Remember to get to the tri site early, just to get organized. I don't belive in energy drinks or powerbars...take my advice and don't drink gatoraide, poweraide, red bull...just good water. You are going to thank me later, eat plain pasta, for breakfast, lunch and dinner, two days before you race. This will load you up with tonnes of carbohydrates. Try not to eat heavy meats like beef or pork the day before you race, too much protein. Also, try to channel your energy into each stage individually so you don't burn up. And of course, get a couple of good nites rest.




I've been a part of a team with a dietician who has been a part of studies and has a degree in nutrition of some sort. Let me say there is a few problems with the nutrition plan he is advising you on.

First off, energy drinks do work. It is one thing to do a 40 minute triathlon and sware off something that is meant for 1 hour and over events. Even comparing Powerade and Gatorade is questionable because they use different types of sugar strains that break down differently if I'm not mistaken. to even throw red bull into that mix is just bizarre. Gatorade has easy to break down sugar which your body will need in events over an hour and a little bit of electrolytes to keep your body absorbing water and using energy effeciently.

Second off, don't over do it on the water and make sure you're consuming sodium with the water otherwise you won't absorb it, you'll just send it out the other end.

Third, Don't change what you eat drastically before races. You train both hard and easy; day in and day out on this stuff, so don't go throwing your body out of whack. Eat for breakfast what you always eat for breakfast, just avoid greasy stuff like bacon or sausage, that'll make you have to "go" the day of the race.

Fourth, Protein is good the day before a race, I agree not beef or pork but chicken and fish are great choices and have an equal amount of protein or close to. Very low fat if baked and the protein will help settle your stomach and insure that your muscles are healing all the way up to race time. Protein is needed for your muscles to rebuild.

Am I the most experienced triathlete out there? no, but I have had the good fortune to have been around some of the best runners and be around great triathletes in my area that I train and race against day in and day out.

Agreed...


I've been a part of a team with a dietician who has been a part of studies and has a degree in nutrition of some sort. Let me say there is a few problems with the nutrition plan he is advising you on.

First off, energy drinks do work. It is one thing to do a 40 minute triathlon and sware off something that is meant for 1 hour and over events. Even comparing Powerade and Gatorade is questionable because they use different types of sugar strains that break down differently if I'm not mistaken. to even throw red bull into that mix is just bizarre. Gatorade has easy to break down sugar which your body will need in events over an hour and a little bit of electrolytes to keep your body absorbing water and using energy effeciently.

Second off, don't over do it on the water and make sure you're consuming sodium with the water otherwise you won't absorb it, you'll just send it out the other end.

Third, Don't change what you eat drastically before races. You train both hard and easy; day in and day out on this stuff, so don't go throwing your body out of whack. Eat for breakfast what you always eat for breakfast, just avoid greasy stuff like bacon or sausage, that'll make you have to "go" the day of the race.

Fourth, Protein is good the day before a race, I agree not beef or pork but chicken and fish are great choices and have an equal amount of protein or close to. Very low fat if baked and the protein will help settle your stomach and insure that your muscles are healing all the way up to race time. Protein is needed for your muscles to rebuild.

Am I the most experienced triathlete out there? no, but I have had the good fortune to have been around some of the best runners and be around great triathletes in my area that I train and race against day in and day out.

i race XC and was recently at a seminar in Hardwood Hills, in Barrie, Ontario. one of the things they taught us was to not eat anything different for breakfast and to drink tons of water. we should be drinking lots of water all the time, not just before races. another thing is you shouldn't have anything with too much dairy in it before a race as it creates mucus in your throat.

First off, energy drinks do work. It is one thing to do a 40 minute triathlon and sware off something that is meant for 1 hour and over events.Be weary of real energy drinks like Gatorade and Powerade. The taste during a race is typically sweeter than when you aren't racing. I typically don't use energy drinks for anything 90 minutes or shorter.


Third, Don't change what you eat drastically before races. You train both hard and easy; day in and day out on this stuff, so don't go throwing your body out of whack. Eat for breakfast what you always eat for breakfast, just avoid greasy stuff like bacon or sausage, that'll make you have to "go" the day of the race.This is probably important. Syrup on waffles the morning of a race... OY VEI! Waffles... a good idea. Syrup... a bad idea. The morning of a race, I like the good ole staple... bread. Fresh Panera bread. It's inert and carby.


Fourth, Protein is good the day before a race, I agree not beef or pork but chicken and fish are great choices and have an equal amount of protein or close to. Very low fat if baked and the protein will help settle your stomach and insure that your muscles are healing all the way up to race time. Protein is needed for your muscles to rebuild.I've done it all. I've forsaken dairy three days before a race, pasta load, but I've also had an entire box of fried chicken too. I haven't seen much of a difference. Of course, a good diet is important. I wasn't eating junk food all the time.

I don't see anything wrong in taking the fat. It's going to be burned and fat has much more energy within it than carbohydrates. Well, it has more, "much" is a relative term.


Am I the most experienced triathlete out there? no, but I have had the good fortune to have been around some of the best runners and be around great triathletes in my area that I train and race against day in and day out.
Most importantly, it's your body. Play around a little here and there to fine tune the pre-race ritual. What works for me or another triathlete, may not work for you. Triathlon is almost as much psychological as it is physical, so be comfortable with what you choose.

Regardless... seeing my post was completely OT... :o

Congrats on the good finish. My first race of the season, I finished 2nd in my age group... was astonished by the result. It was a weak group... would have finished 4th in the groups above and below me. Nice job though. And keep it up. Those were awfully short distances! Swim a lap in the pool, get to the bike. Bike twice around transition. Run one lap around transition. Transition times could really affect that race. :D

Jimmy shows me a good point... This thread is about your race which is a good performance. Congrats

A couple of other facts..

--Energy Drinks--

Most energy drinks on the market are made to deplete your cells and then re energize and hydrate them. This is just an oxymoron if you are a proffessional athlete. I recoment something like "e-load" But extremley watered down, it tastes HORRILBE!...but depending, it sometimes works.

BTW, I attend tonnes of nutrition seminars and I have been doing triathlons for 5 years...I know my *****

P.s. Energy drinks also do the muscus thing...creating that sticky, gooey mess that gets on your sshoulder when you spit! :P


--Protein--

Protein isn't more about it's nutrients, rather than what it leaves behind...poop

Degests slower...leaves behind gas and other nasty things

It has important nutrients, but they can be digested in other, more practical foods.



Just remeber though, everybody has their own way of doing things...whatever works for you, makes you go faster, will most likely not aggree with other people. Go with the flow, make your own desscisons...Don't listen to us! :p

Fianly...I am so glad my first thread ever has such a good disscusion! :D

Regardless... seeing my post was completely OT... :o

Congrats on the good finish. My first race of the season, I finished 2nd in my age group... was astonished by the result. It was a weak group... would have finished 4th in the groups above and below me. Nice job though. And keep it up. Those were awfully short distances! Swim a lap in the pool, get to the bike. Bike twice around transition. Run one lap around transition. Transition times could really affect that race. :D

THANK YOU EVERYONE! I hope you race well this season aswell!

Energy drinks don't deplete your cells. they supply two things. first,Simple sugars, the easiest energy you can supply yourself with. Second, electrolytes to absorb water.

Protein is not a nutrient, it's a string of amino acids, broken down and used to rebuild and build muscles most importantly but also bone and ligaments.

I don't have a problem with the way you do things, but to say that your way is well proven is ridiculous; it is the exact opposite of the few top athletes, I know, way of taking in nutrition.

[QUOTE=Triguy]I don't have a problem with the way you do things, but to say that your way is well proven is ridiculous; it is the exact opposite of the few top athletes, I know, way of taking in nutrition.QUOTE]


Don't be a hater.

I was saying exactly what you are saying. I am just letting people know, I could be wrong. You obviously don't agree with me, but you didn't have to ***** all over me.

And about the protein. Would you really want your muscles using energy to rebuild if you are doing a triathlon?

Just a question.

Remember, I'm not telling people what to do here, I am not trying to start a revolution, or make myself look good. I started this thread to chat about my race results with friends. Please, get off my back!

During the event? maybe. But the 24 hours leading up to the event? yes.

I'm not trying to "be a hater". I'm trying to keep things stated as facts, truthful on the boards from which people rely on for training tips.

I do apologize for being an a-hole in this thread, but some of the things you said should be shown to be what they are, opinions.

Well, one thing I will add to this is that the reason I came to this forum was to learn and become a better triathlete. Everytime I post it is my hope that somebody will respond to what I have said and correct me if I am wrong. Instead of calling triguy a hater, question him and ask him why he disagrees with your nutritional strategy and ask for suggestions. The worst that will happen is that you'll find out theres a better way to do things and you're training will improve.

Just another quick point. You look quite young in the picture on your posts. I'm 21, not an experienced triathlete by any means. But the one thing I have learned is that it pays off to listen to what other people have to say, especially if its someone who is more experienced than you. It's always helped me out.

I'm not taking sides, just trying to smooth everything out. :)

:) :) :) :) :) Thanks for your input guys! :) :) :) :) :) I also apologize, and will take your advice...

If you want to put it all in perspective, go spend a few hours reading posts on the road forum. Then you'll get a real feeing for contentiousness. We're tame in here!

haha

very nice