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Portis
06-29-06, 09:48 AM
I just found this on Shimano's website. It appears that my road bike may be effected. Perhaps yours is too. http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/cycle/sac/us/en/news_and_information/news/front__quick_release.html

I-Like-To-Bike
06-29-06, 10:49 AM
I just found this on Shimano's website. It appears that my road bike may be effected. Perhaps yours is too. http://bike.shimano.com/publish/content/cycle/sac/us/en/news_and_information/news/front__quick_release.html
A defective bicycle part on quality bikes that rolled off the LBS floor? Tell me it ain't so. Thanks for getting out the safety info.

None of the LBS shills busy badmouthing xmart bikes on BF at the moment had the time to let their comrades know.

Portis
06-29-06, 01:14 PM
You make a good point. Funny how I start a thread on a potentially deadly component that might be on many people's bikes and nobody replies. Yet you can start a thread about Walmart bikes and everybody has something to say.

It looks like anybody that bought any of these effected hubs after November of last year is a potential victim. I bought a new pair of wheels this Spring with Ultegra hubs that looks to be effected. I am contacting Shimano as we speak.

SingingSabre
06-29-06, 05:35 PM
Thanks for bringing that to our attention, Portis. :)

Helmet Head
06-29-06, 05:43 PM
"In certain cases, the [part] could fail or break spontaneously."

Shimano issues a recall for what is considered a normal feature in the parts of the bikes sold by department and *Mart stores...

Eatadonut
06-29-06, 05:52 PM
All my QRs are Shimano! Luckily all my QR skewers are more than 3 years old :D

Companies are much more willing to issue recalls when Wal-Mart, the company with the most purchasing power of them all, isn't breathing down their neck.

Dogbait
06-29-06, 05:53 PM
A defective bicycle part on quality bikes that rolled off the LBS floor? Tell me it ain't so. Thanks for getting out the safety info.

None of the LBS shills busy badmouthing xmart bikes on BF at the moment had the time to let their comrades know.


over a month ago (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=198919)


June 3rd (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=200993&highlight=Shimano+Quick+Release+Recall)

Dogbait

I-Like-To-Bike
06-29-06, 06:28 PM
over a month ago (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=198919)


June 3rd (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=200993&highlight=Shimano+Quick+Release+Recall)

Dogbait
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Of couse I would expect a posting about a serious documented safety issue to be posted on the Safety list, rather than the usual planted anecdotes from LBS shills. But what do I know? I'm not one of the RASTI™ Cyclists* with the inside scoop on what is the Real Deal for Real Cyclists.

*Self annointed Real, Avid, Serious, True, Intelligent Cyclists. This clique can be distinguished from the great majority of lowlife cyclist who are not considered Real, Avid, Serious, True or Intelligent by RASTI Cyclists because only Rasti's possess the Right Cycling Stuff. Just ask 'em or doubt 'em. In fact no one has to ask 'em on BF.

Portis
06-29-06, 09:13 PM
I called Shimano and told them that i had one of the effected hubs. The guy there told me to go to my lbs and get a replacement. Why would i go to my LBS to get a replacement? I didn't even buy the wheels there. Dillweed!!!!:mad: :mad:

I'm gonna call them back and demand that they send me one. I talked to my LBS owner and he said that shimano was real bad about doing crap like that.

I-Like-To-Bike
06-30-06, 06:31 AM
I called Shimano and told them that i had one of the effected hubs. The guy there told me to go to my lbs and get a replacement. Why would i go to my LBS to get a replacement? I didn't even buy the wheels there. Dillweed!!!!:mad: :mad:

I'm gonna call them back and demand that they send me one. I talked to my LBS owner and he said that shimano was real bad about doing crap like that.
Maybe Shimano is secretly controlled by the nefarious demons responsible for selling death machines at those xmart stores:rolleyes: . Yeah, that's the ticket, another stab in the back to those righteous LBS dudes.

SamHouston
06-30-06, 07:00 AM
There are many parts on those crappy x-mart bikes bearing the shimano name. I don't see the difference....except that x-marts & their suppliers have been shown to hide the number of injuries reported to avoid recalls and fiscal responsobility for recalled products, refused to participate in voluntary recalls, dragging their heels for much, much longer than the mere 6 months that passed between the manufacture, defect discovery & voluntary recall that is the case with Shimano & this QR.

I-Like-To-Bike
06-30-06, 07:35 AM
Except that x-marts & their suppliers have been shown to hide the number of injuries reported to avoid recalls and fiscal responsobility for recalled products, refused to participate in voluntary recalls, dragging their heels for much, much longer than the mere 6 months that passed between the manufacture, defect discovery & voluntary recall that is the case with Shimano & this QR.
Ooh, OoH, "hidden info"! Exposed! Please furnish info on this significant exposure of the real facts about the "hidden info."

SamHouston
06-30-06, 08:23 AM
What hidden info? Goto http://www.cpsc.gov & look around. X-mart & company tends to keep products that are eventually recalled on the shelves until they are sold out, then a year or 2 later they have the good grace to allow a recall that no one will see. 13,000 QR on Adult bicycles recalled immediately vs 250,000 childrens bikes recalled 2 years after they were sold out.

ghettocruiser
06-30-06, 10:08 AM
Maybe Shimano is secretly controlled by the nefarious demons responsible for selling death machines at those xmart stores:rolleyes: . Yeah, that's the ticket, another stab in the back to those righteous LBS dudes.


I just don't get either side of this argument. I, like many other people here, didn't start off riding high-end bikes. I started off on a department store bike. I know first-hand the severe limitations they imposed on serious cycling. But I rode the thing anyways, and stuff broke.

Eventually I migrated further up the price scale to stuff sold by specialty retailers.

And as this recall reminds us, XT and ultegra stuff still breaks. Except that I find it breaks after 400 hours of use, instead of 40 or 4 like on the low-pricepoint bikes I used to ride.

I would be inclined to suggest that a low-end bike from a bike shop would be a pretty small step up from a department store bike. But I agree with the earlier posts that things breaking early on high-end bikes is a cause for a recall or at least a refund, whereas on a department store bike it is more of a given.

I-Like-To-Bike
06-30-06, 01:11 PM
What hidden info? Goto http://www.cpsc.gov & look around. X-mart & company tends to keep products that are eventually recalled on the shelves until they are sold out, then a year or 2 later they have the good grace to allow a recall that no one will see. 13,000 QR on Adult bicycles recalled immediately vs 250,000 childrens bikes recalled 2 years after they were sold out.
I "looked around"; I didn't see nuthin' related to your hidden info. Where is the hidden info hidden? What hidden info about products kept on the shelfs after the recall was announced? Where is the hidden info about 2 years delayed recalls? I'm not looking around for your hidden info because my guess is that your hidden info is nothing more than garbled bits of Internet chatter twisted to fit your agenda. Come back after YOU can unhide the info that that supports your claims.

What I did find after a cursory look around on the CPSC site was:
Specialized Bicycle Components Inc. Recalls Bicycles Due to Fall Hazard
WASHINGTON, D.C. – The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary recall of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using recalled products immediately unless otherwise instructed.

Name of Product: Bicycles with SW Carbon Stem with Magnesium Faceplate

Units: About 2,700

Manufacturer: Specialized Bicycle Components Inc., of Morgan Hill, Calif.

Hazard: The bicycle’s stem has a magnesium faceplate that holds the handlebar in place. The faceplates on the recalled stems can crack allowing the handlebar to break off the bicycle, posing a serious fall hazard.

Incidents/Injuries: Specialized has received five reports of the magnesium faceplate exhibiting cracks. No injuries have been reported.

Description and Models: The SW Carbon Stem with Magnesium Faceplate is black with the words “S-Works” and “Magnesium Faceplate” printed on it. The stems were included as original equipment on the following 2006 bicycles models: S-Works Tarmac, Tarmac Pro, S-Works Roubaix, Roubaix Pro, Allez Pro and S-Works Transition. It was also sold as an after market item under the name S-Works Advanced Composite Mag Road Stem.

Sold at: Authorized Specialized retailers from June 2005 through April 2006 as original equipment of the bicycle models referenced above or as an after market item for about $160.

Manufactured In: Taiwan

Remedy: Consumers should stop riding the bicycles that have the recalled stems immediately and take them to an authorized Specialized retailer for a free replacement faceplate.

Consumer Contact: For additional information, call Specialized at (877) 808-8154 between 7 a.m. and 6 p.m. MT, Monday through Friday, or visit the company’s Web site at www.Specialized.com

SamHouston
06-30-06, 07:06 PM
Is that all you found? I found hundreds of recalls regarding both "LBS" bikes and x-mart bikes as well.

You know ILTB, an attack on poorly made goods isn't an attack on the American way. If you want to find the information you think is hidden then just look. Read depositions from related lawsuits, witness accounts, employee statements on retailer accountability practices, any number of readily available documents pertaining to the subject. But do your own damn homework. If I wanted to write a paper and include a bibliography and footnotes for every post on this forum I'dve been an english major. If you can't get information that has been cited here on bikeforums numerous times or use a search engine well enough to locate these things for yourself then what the hell good are you anyway?

If you're angry over the fact that a shimano recall, or any other recall, doesn't mean a damn thing in your quest to sit things right with Wal-mart and yourself, I'm sorry. I apologize for your bullheadedness.

I-Like-To-Bike
06-30-06, 09:11 PM
Is that all you found? I found hundreds of recalls regarding both "LBS" bikes and x-mart bikes as well.
If you want to find the information you think is hidden then just look.
OK, Let me make it clear. YOU are the fella making the claim about hidden info about xmart misdeeds and irresponsible behavior. Support it with something besides idle chatter. I'm not searching for it. You make a claim, support it. Don't expect me or anyone else to chase after the info you claim is hidden somewhere. I don't give a dang how many recalls you found. That is not the issue. It only stands to reason that if one source outsells the other by approximately 850% it just might have a few more product recalled than the other.

You made the claim, "X-mart & company tends to keep products that are eventually recalled on the shelves until they are sold out, then a year or 2 later they have the good grace to allow a recall that no one will see." What makes you say so? A tort case allegation? Internet jabber you read somewhere on BF or elsewhere? Or did you make up this claim all by yourself?

SingingSabre
06-30-06, 09:54 PM
ILTB, don't hijack the thread. Portis wanted to notify us about a recall, and he did. We're thanking him for it and discussing other recalls and safety issues. You don't need to jump up and start attacking everybody...don't be such a ... yeah.