http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a173/zekebobish/HPIM2186-1.jpgSo you even have the matching Discovery Channel bottles, huh?:) Nice bike - good luck in your first race. That bike is about a zillion times better than the bike I rode during my first race.

lol, yeah the bike didnt even come with one cage or bottle n i saw them at the LBS so i said what the hey... thanks for the compliments cant wait for the race!

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throw some aerobars on the trek- you'll like it. That Cervelo is how you do!

interesting set up- how you like it?

http://www.wu94010.com/triathlon/racepic_btcc1.gifI'm getting a HED 3 rear wheel in about a week. I was going to get the front wheel to match but I wasn't sure how it handled in crosswinds. I ride/race in places that regularly have 25-30mph crosswinds. Is the HED 3 front wheel difficult to control in conditions like this? (btw, I'm 165 lbs.)

Here is my Trek Discovery bike. i just sold the frame and am looking to pick up a new one. I posted a question last night but haven't heard anything yet. I built it up last season and raced it for about two months and then decided I didn't like the frame. I miss the hell out of it now. It's like breaking up with the love of your life. You never really get over it.:cry:

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Here is my Trek Discovery bike. i just sold the frame and am looking to pick up a new one. I posted a question last night but haven't heard anything yet. I built it up last season and raced it for about two months and then decided I didn't like the frame. I miss the hell out of it now. It's like breaking up with the love of your life. You never really get over it.:cry:

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What was wrong with the frame? It seems to be a "hot" frame.
Something has been troubling me in my search for a good tri frameset/build. I seem to be steering away from Trek, Specialized, and Giant. I think its because they seem to be companies that "everyone" buys their bikes from including those looking for "family" bikes or the Lance wannabes. Sorta like sears or something.
Is that unfair of me?

Hey StalkerZERO,

I don't think that is really unfair of you. I tend to stray away from trends as well. The companies you mention are all fine manufacturers, but you're right, there is just something about Tri frames that scream, originality. These popular bike companies seem to have a focus on the middle of the bike culture and cater to more of the casual side of the sport. There are so many different frame builders/distributors that specialize in just Tri frames or at least have a relitavely small stable of frames that center around performance and inovation, that it seems rash to me to just go with the convenient or popular bike choice. Although I admit I do really love Trek's TT frame and think they have a good concept team. I sold the frame because I wanted to build-up my mountain bike, but more so because the frame just barely fit me. I am 6'2" and I had the seatpost lowered all the way down to the carbon seat airfoil. I just couldn't get the custom fit that is so paramount in Tri specific frames. It seems like the less common frame designs are leaning twords an aero seat post concept rather than a frame integrated seat tube airfoil. An example of this is the Ceepo TT Venom or the Cervelo P2C, (exuse me while I wipe the drool off my shirt:D ). There is a great section in Triathlete Magazine's April issue showcasing some smokin' framesets.

Hey StalkerZERO,

I don't think that is really unfair of you. I tend to stray away from trends as well. The companies you mention are all fine manufacturers, but you're right, there is just something about Tri frames that scream, originality. These popular bike companies seem to have a focus on the middle of the bike culture and cater to more of the casual side of the sport. There are so many different frame builders/distributors that specialize in just Tri frames or at least have a relitavely small stable of frames that center around performance and inovation, that it seems rash to me to just go with the convenient or popular bike choice. Although I admit I do really love Trek's TT frame and think they have a good concept team. I sold the frame because I wanted to build-up my mountain bike, but more so because the frame just barely fit me. I am 6'2" and I had the seatpost lowered all the way down to the carbon seat airfoil. I just couldn't get the custom fit that is so paramount in Tri specific frames. It seems like the less common frame designs are leaning twords an aero seat post concept rather than a frame integrated seat tube airfoil. An example of this is the Ceepo TT Venom or the Cervelo P2C, (exuse me while I wipe the drool off my shirt:D ). There is a great section in Triathlete Magazine's April issue showcasing some smokin' framesets.

April issue? *looks at stack of running and triathete mags on floor* Dang, I must have bought that issue...its gotta be somewhere!

So what are you saying though? Those aero seat posts aren't any good because they are adjustable? And aren't there any integrated posts that are also aero as well? What frame would you recommend? Because I would probably be picky and would want a perfect fit/position.

Trek no longer uses the mast system show above. Both Giant and Trek have come out with very nice, very tri specific lines this year.

you bet Triguy,

The new framesets from trek and Giant are very nice and The new trek has gone with the aero seatpost! What I was trying to say StalkerZERO, was I couldn't adjust the height on my frame because of the integrated seat airfoil on the '05 TREK. I really do like the concept of an aero seatpost. I think it is one of the best advancements as of recent. I am not qualified to suggest a frame though. I too am searching for that perect frame. I am doing as much research as possible and am only begging to scratch the surface of the technology comprehension. I love it.:D

HAve to add mine, built up thanks to some old parts and a very generous family:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s284/trin2du/DSCF1283.jpg

Hey nice looking bike! What kind of aero bars do you have?

whiterock,
Is that a soloist setup for Tri's? Sweet.

Thanks...yes its a soloist.....I'll be switching back to the drop bars in another month to do some road rallies and maybe a crit or two, then back to the tri cockpit for a couple of tri's in the fall.

Hey nice looking bike! What kind of aero bars do you have?

Vision alloy base bar and extensions. Vision Brake levers. Very happy with all of it.

I'm getting a HED 3 rear wheel in about a week. I was going to get the front wheel to match but I wasn't sure how it handled in crosswinds. I ride/race in places that regularly have 25-30mph crosswinds. Is the HED 3 front wheel difficult to control in conditions like this? (btw, I'm 165 lbs.)

Sprocket,

Yes, the HED 3 in front definitely gets a bit squirrely in anything over 25mph winds when you get up to speed. I can't imagine riding them in the aero-position in 30 mph+ winds at speed...way too hairball for me, I'd have to be riding on the hoods at that point.

Now, the HED 3 in back may not be as susceptible to crosswinds--but I can't verify that.

HAve to add mine, built up thanks to some old parts and a very generous family:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s284/trin2du/DSCF1283.jpg


What kind of wheels are those???

What kind of wheels are those???

Zipp 303 clinchers, with the stickers pulled off.

Sprocket,

Yes, the HED 3 in front definitely gets a bit squirrely in anything over 25mph winds when you get up to speed. I can't imagine riding them in the aero-position in 30 mph+ winds at speed...way too hairball for me, I'd have to be riding on the hoods at that point.

Now, the HED 3 in back may not be as susceptible to crosswinds--but I can't verify that.Thanks! I guess I'm going to stick with the HED3 for the rear wheel only for now. I just got it in yesterday so I'm pretty excited about it. Here it is. I also got my new crank/chainring combo too - it's an Ultegra crank and FSA TT chainrings. I'm going to have the bike shop install them and will post another picture when that's complete.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8332/felt1592007ayg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thanks! I guess I'm going to stick with the HED3 for the rear wheel only for now. I just got it in yesterday so I'm pretty excited about it. Here it is. I also got my new crank/chainring combo too - it's an Ultegra crank and FSA TT chainrings. I'm going to have the bike shop install them and will post another picture when that's complete.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8332/felt1592007ayg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Why did you mix an ultegra crankset with fsa tt chanrings? Doesn't fsa have a good enough set of cranks among their models?

Why did you mix an ultegra crankset with fsa tt chanrings? Doesn't fsa have a good enough set of cranks among their models?They do, but the Ultegra cranks are on sale for $199 at Colorado Cyclist and they have a reputation of being stiff and very strong. Also, I couldn't go with the standard 53-39 rings that come with the crank because I ride 650 wheels and the gearing would be too low.

Also, I find the shiny Ultegra cranks paired with the FSA TT rings to be very sexy.:D

I love how I don't post a single thing over the winter, yet I come back, and my thread is killin! Alllright!

Velo junkies? Yah.

Bump!

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Here she is, my first tri bike.

how are you liking that leader?

I'm surprised no one's posted (or admitted to riding) Normann's bike. When I raced Wildflower this year, so many people were riding it. Perhaps it's not as popular around the rest of the globe?

Here's my new ride - rode it in the first race of the season yesterday.

Here's the build:
2007 QR Lucero frame
FSA SL-K compact carbon crank w/ 50/36 Q-rings
10 speed Dura-Ace shifters, front & rear Der., 12/25 cassette
Zero Gravity Ti brakes
Vision Tech base & aero bars
Tektro carbon brake levers
Bebop pedals & Rocket 7 shoes
Fizik Arione Tri saddle
Zipp 808 clincher front
American Classic 420 w/powertap SL hub & disc wheel cover / zipp 808 rear clincher w/Powertap Pro hub
Vittoria Open Corsa EVO CX tires & latex tubes

how are you liking that leader?
I really like it a lot. I don't have much to compare it to, but I really can't ask for more from it at least.

Here's my new ride - rode it in the first race of the season yesterday.

Here's the build:
2007 QR Lucero frame
FSA SL-K compact carbon crank w/ 50/36 Q-rings
10 speed Dura-Ace shifters, front & rear Der., 12/25 cassette
Zero Gravity Ti brakes
Vision Tech base & aero bars
Tektro carbon brake levers
Bebop pedals & Rocket 7 shoes
Fizik Arione Tri saddle
Zipp 808 clincher front
American Classic 420 w/powertap SL hub & disc wheel cover / zipp 808 rear clincher w/Powertap Pro hub
Vittoria Open Corsa EVO CX tires & latex tubes

nice bike chief

19.8 lbs but not with the carbon rims.

Here's my new ride - rode it in the first race of the season yesterday.

Here's the build:
2007 QR Lucero frame
FSA SL-K compact carbon crank w/ 50/36 Q-rings
10 speed Dura-Ace shifters, front & rear Der., 12/25 cassette
Zero Gravity Ti brakes
Vision Tech base & aero bars
Tektro carbon brake levers
Bebop pedals & Rocket 7 shoes
Fizik Arione Tri saddle
Zipp 808 clincher front
American Classic 420 w/powertap SL hub & disc wheel cover / zipp 808 rear clincher w/Powertap Pro hub
Vittoria Open Corsa EVO CX tires & latex tubes

What's going on there with your bars??? Is that two sets of bullhorns and some jacked-up aero bars????

What's going on there with your bars??? Is that two sets of bullhorns and some jacked-up aero bars????

Now that you mention it, there is something odd about that photo I hadn't noticed. I had to do some fiddling to reduce the size and resolution to meet BF attachment size limits, so maybe I goofed up something there. Apart from a positive rise adjustable stem the front end of the bike is conventional, with an 8 cm drop from saddle to aerobar pads.

Here's mine. I just added the aerobars last week (Profile Design T2+). Weight is right around 23 lbs with a water bottle. I haven't upgraded much though the current wheels (Xero Lite XR1) were essentially a necessary upgrade since i b0rk3d the rear wheel from the original set (Xero XSR-3) when hopping over a drain gutter grate. Current tires are a Michelin Dynamic on the rear (rotated from the front) and a Krylion Carbon on the front. Topeak Road Morph pump is on the seat tube, and i've got a pouch for food on the top tube, a gel flask on the stem, and the cyclometer (Cateye Astrale 8) mounted to a Minoura Swing Grip under the stem. Seat is the original Fizik Aliante with a DeSoto neoprene cover. Drivetrain includes Truvativ compact cranks (with 50/34 chainrings), 105 rear derailuer, Tiagra front derailuer, and a SRAM 12-26 casette (from which i removed the 26t cog and replaced it with a 29t cog for climbing). :D

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How do you like the T2 with your road geometry? I'm running Jammer GTs, but was thinking about something with a little more extension, like the T2s. Would combine that with a forward post though.

10 days old - setup for winter training.

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this is stupid...but how do i reply with a picture? (not tech savvy with bikeforums.net)

What's going on there with your bars??? Is that two sets of bullhorns and some jacked-up aero bars????

I think it's because the pic was taken from below horizontal and the fact there doesn't appear to be any drop from the bars to the stem. Coupled with a shadow, it does look strange.

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Woah.... Wicked!

Now that, boys and girls, is a non-UCI-legal seat position. :)

And some serious aero bar extension.

The poor man's TT rig (also my road race bike when sans-aero bars and repositioned seat)

Circa 1993 Peugeot 531 frame, Shimano 550 wheels, Tiagra/105/RX100 drivetrain, Syntace clip-on bars.
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~mans1210/photos/extras/blenheim_cycle.jpg
Photo from the Blenheim Triathlon this past weekend.

Anyone have any suggestions regarding position??

Anyone have any suggestions regarding position??

I'm no expert, but I think you look to be reaching a bit with your elbows so far forward. That is probably because it is a true road bike. I say whatever can get you across the finish line!

I'm no expert, but I think you look to be reaching a bit with your elbows so far forward. That is probably because it is a true road bike. I say whatever can get you across the finish line!

I agree with rplong.

To fit a road bike (which I did for years) -

Push the saddle as far forward on the rails as possible (you will need to also then raise the seat to keep the same saddle distance from the BB) to shorten the reach.

Also to try and flatten the back a little by lowering the bars. As long as it doesn't impact your power output.

Lots of good positioning information on http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/techctr/techctr.html or for more technical feedback information on http://biketechreview.com/phpBB2/index.php

I agree with rplong.

To fit a road bike (which I did for years) -

Push the saddle as far forward on the rails as possible (you will need to also then raise the seat to keep the same saddle distance from the BB) to shorten the reach.

Also to try and flatten the back a little by lowering the bars. As long as it doesn't impact your power output.

Pretty much my thoughts already.

I raised the seat and pushed it as far forward as I could just for this race (but it's a fairly offset post). I thought about dropping the bars a bit, but as I'm constantly swapping this bike back and forth between TT and Road setup, I really couldn't be bothered.

My tri bike with new wheel, crank and FSA chainrings:
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My tri bike with new wheel, crank and FSA chainrings:
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I'm digging the FSA chainrings. What are they, (53/39, etc...)? I am selling my Blackwell Research rear disc and am getting a HED 3c rear. How does your HED ride?

Here is my '98 Cannondale R600 that I changed to a threadless stem and added the tri bars.
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46942This bike is soooooooo sick!

I'm digging the FSA chainrings. What are they, (53/39, etc...)? I am selling my Blackwell Research rear disc and am getting a HED 3c rear. How does your HED ride?Thanks. The chainrings are 55/44. I had to get them big because my wheels are 650s.

I'm not sure how the carbon-rimmed HED3s ride, but mine is great. It's a little less stiff than the Velocity Deep V wheels I usually ride. When I first rode with the HED, I had to stop a couple of times to check if my rear tire had flatted because it felt wobbly. But I'm used to it now so it's fine.

Thought I'd join the fray...

2005 49cm Orbea Aletta D/A in training mode.
Mavic Ksyrium Elites, Profile T2's and Strike saddle...
Fits me perfect (short legs, long(ish) torso).

An update to my Leader:
added: xtr long cage rear deraileur ( what a nice piece.. )
FSA chainring, after my worn shimano chainring ate my leg - 9 stitches.
Cut down my aero bars a bit.
Finished my bar tape and rerouted my cables better
Gave up on the Azzotto seat - LBS took my money and closed the store
Heart rate monitor now mounted on the bars
Still to go: Tufo Tubular clinchers sitting in customs.. 220 psi, here we gooo..
( It may not look like a big drop - but I have short arms, long legs and scoliosis, so for a
guy that can't touch his toes - it's a good drop. )
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