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StalkerZERO
07-08-06, 05:21 PM
It sucks imo. First they ban riders from using aerobars that are overly extended to the point where it looks like your flying like superman. ........fine.
But why would they stop someone from pulling the bars up so that at first it seems like you would be going slower. I would think something like that would make the UCI happy. :rolleyes:

But noooooooooo they make Floyd point his aerobars down to the point where he wasn't comfortable with them.....then he gets equipment probs. Now he had to finish the TT stage 7 on his spare bike which isn't tuned to him at all. Thats not fair! :mad: And also, I think that up pointed aerobar techinique he came up with in the first place is very cool. It might be something I adopt down the line myself.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tour06/index.php?id=/photos/2006/tour06/tour060/JD_06TDFplg15

merlinextraligh
07-08-06, 05:36 PM
my question is waht UCI rule his positon violates.

StalkerZERO
07-08-06, 05:44 PM
my question is waht UCI rule his positon violates.

I couldn't understand it myself but some bike geek named "gemma" who I guess hates Floyd for some reason researched the UCI regulation Floyd apparently broke. I wouldn't be surprised if she emailed her findings straight to the UCI right after Floyd's prologue.

Here, read for yourself: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thread/15b28bf892c95578

georgiaboy
07-08-06, 05:52 PM
I have a question, hopefully someone can help me. Who on the team is responsible to make sure a bicycle meets the UCI requirements? Is there a particular position that oversees this? I don't think Floyd Landis is responsible for all these details. If someone at Phonak is responsible then they need to get their act together. Floyd is capable of winning the tour he doesn't need these distractions.

kunsei83
07-08-06, 05:55 PM
Is this a joke or for real? Can somebody pull the actual link for this please?

C_Heath
07-08-06, 06:06 PM
Same as gettin rid of the Team TT

thats crazy

StalkerZERO
07-08-06, 06:16 PM
Is this a joke or for real? Can somebody pull the actual link for this please?

What do you mean? Its for real alright. :(

kunsei83
07-08-06, 06:31 PM
does someone have a website link for this? And is he just banned from using it for the final tt?

1slowbastard
07-08-06, 07:04 PM
does someone have a website link for this? And is he just banned from using it for the final tt?

The rules are the same for both TT's. If it is illegal today, it's illegal for the final TT.

Laggard
07-08-06, 07:07 PM
Floyd's bike didn't meet regulations. What's the big uproar over?

Hitchy
07-08-06, 07:21 PM
Floyd's bike didn't meet regulations. What's the big uproar over?


you sure you're a seppo?....you're making way to much sense :D

kunsei83
07-08-06, 07:23 PM
can someone please post a link on this subject? I've been trying to find it but cannot find it. I thought if your bike doesn't meet the regulation, you're automatically DQ'd. Is this not right? How can a guy who used something that's illegal and still keep his time?

fruitless
07-08-06, 07:25 PM
I can't believe how few people have heard of Graham Obree.

Hitchy
07-08-06, 07:29 PM
I can't believe how few people have heard of Graham Obree.


obviously no-one at Phonak, anyway :D

Berg417448
07-08-06, 07:30 PM
can someone please post a link on this subject? I've been trying to find it but cannot find it. I thought if your bike doesn't meet the regulation, you're automatically DQ'd. Is this not right? How can a guy who used something that's illegal and still keep his time?

http://www.velonews.com/tour2006/tech/articles/10296.0.html

Dead Extra #2
07-08-06, 07:33 PM
I can't believe how few people have heard of Graham Obree.


You mean Graham "The flying Scot" Obree, Graham "The praying mantis" Obree, Graham "I'll hang myself, I really mean it this time" Obree?

fruitless
07-08-06, 09:38 PM
obviously no-one at Phonak, anyway :D


exactly, like that coach of Floyd's thats been on the OLN coverage describing the "breakthrough" they made with Floyd's TT setup in the windtunnel.

voltman
07-08-06, 09:54 PM
Floyd was banned? I thought he was second in the GC.

Dead Extra #2
07-08-06, 10:21 PM
He's not banned, they made him change his aerobar position.

voltman
07-08-06, 10:23 PM
He's not banned, they made him change his aerobar position.

Oh. Oh no?

baj32161
07-09-06, 06:57 AM
You mean Graham "The flying Scot" Obree, Graham "The praying mantis" Obree, Graham "I'll hang myself, I really mean it this time" Obree?

Yep.....THAT Graham Obree:D .

youm0nt
07-09-06, 07:14 AM
anyone notice he was wearing specialized shoe covers? :s
http://velonews.com/images/details/10281.15520.f.jpg

rufvelo
07-09-06, 07:55 AM
UCI has always done their bit to pseudo-level the playing field. Never made sense. Not very different from that other fumbling agency FIA who's struggling with levelling the autoracing field. Neither realizes that you can't make things perfectly even in competitive sport involving machiners, unless you spec out bikes, cars to a neutral manufacturer and hand them over to teams to use. All they can do is hold back development. What is wrong with a 5lb carbon bicycle made in Taiwan, that costs $500?

DrWJODonnell
07-09-06, 09:00 AM
https://www.usacycling.org/officials/1_general_regulations.pdf

1.3.022 and 1.2.023

Likely the aerobars are above the plane defined by the saddle height or are more than 75cm from the BB. There are simple rules to follow as outlined in the rulebook. Likely the mechanic was pushing the envelope and got caught.

StalkerZERO
07-09-06, 05:38 PM
anyone notice he was wearing specialized shoe covers? :s
http://velonews.com/images/details/10281.15520.f.jpg

I think he wanted the red covers to match is cool time machine.

StalkerZERO
07-09-06, 05:39 PM
anyone notice he was wearing specialized shoe covers? :s
http://velonews.com/images/details/10281.15520.f.jpg

Wait a minute weren't they red? Or was it black in the prologue then red in stage 7?

domestique
07-09-06, 06:52 PM
Who cares about shoe covers.... check out his time trial bottle!

http://www.velonews.com/images/tech/10296.15544.f.jpg

http://www.velonews.com/tour2006/tech/articles/10296.0.html

StalkerZERO
07-09-06, 08:55 PM
Who cares about shoe covers.... check out his time trial bottle!

http://www.velonews.com/images/tech/10296.15544.f.jpg

http://www.velonews.com/tour2006/tech/articles/10296.0.html

I mean damn thats just pushing the edge ain't it? I love it when a designer goes the extra mile. Who knows, maybe the bottle helped a little to lessen overall drag. You have to admit Floyd is doing a good job so far ain't he?
As a matter of fact I'm sorta in love with the time machine. :D Lets hope the UCI doesn't rule against Floyd's water bottle though. :rolleyes:

goldfish
07-09-06, 10:58 PM
i myself was wondering about that bottle. i'm hoping they don't see it as a fairing...if they do, then its bye bye aerobottle. I love all the little details on that bike. its damn-near perfect. check the sweet cranks on that bike. sooooooooo cool.