Utility Cycling - which trailer?

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concernicus
07-08-06, 11:45 PM
so i really want a trailer, and right now im stuck between the burley nomad, or the BOB yak.
im a college student who is gonna be lugging around bikes, books, food, beer, groceries, you name it. im leaning toward the yak because it is more trail friendly, and i can take it to the mountains for trail maintenence, but im worried about the one wheel stability issue.
i really like the nomad, and i like how i can add the cargo rack up top.
any opinions?
mudskipper99
07-09-06, 03:53 AM
I ordered the Nomad 6 weeks ago, and im still waiting. Burley is really slow this summer.
squeakywheel
07-09-06, 06:22 AM
Seems like lots of car free people use the 1-wheeled trailers. Seems that would be more efficient than the 2 wheeled kid hauler ones. Maybe a narrower profile on the road too.
CommuterRun
07-09-06, 06:54 AM
I have the Burley Solo.
http://www.burley.com/products/trailers/defaultc706.html?p=Solo&i=1
Burley Flatbed
http://www.burley.com/products/trailers/default5891.html?p=Flatbed&i=7
and Wike Woody Wagon
http://www.wicycle.com/kit.htm
The Flatbed sees, by far, the most use and works well with any of my bikes.
The Solo tows as easily as the Flatbed and I imagine the Nomad would be much the same. I use it when hauling the youngest or if I have a load I want to be covered. I really like these trailers and use the Flatbed almost daily when working as a private contractor.
The Woody Wagon with a canoe and gear on it make for a looong and heeeaavy trailer. That, and because of the receiver hitch that bolts to the seatpost, I only use this trailer with my Townie3, my most inherently stable bike.
All of these are two wheeled trailers and width is a problem, but only when I strike off into the boonies where there's no road and sometimes not even a trail.
The BOB trailers, I don't have any experience with.
I always though this one was unique (http://www.extrawheel.com/index_en.php), if only for the fact that it's a perfect match up for use while traversing the Canning Stock Route (http://www.wildworks.co.nz/csr/home.php)on a Surly Pugsley.
If only I had the money......the inclination.....the motivation
GTcommuter
07-09-06, 10:18 AM
Go with the Nomad. The two wheel offer better stability for utility riding (carrying beer) - for everyday convienence and stability. The single-wheels are better for touring/rough stuff, so I guess weigh which you will do more and buy the most utilitarian option.
I found a great old kids trailer on Craigslist. I might take the nylon roof off, but otherwise it was $50 and ready to use.
+1 for the flatbed. I've hauled god only knows what on mine, regularly get groceries, dog food, firewood, etc. I'm on a small farm and the flatbed has been fine running across fields and dirt roads.
--A
gosmsgo
07-09-06, 11:58 AM
I would go with the flatbed. Not having that covering (nomad) will makes it a lot more versatile. It has eliminated 99% of the trips I used to use my car for and the flatbed has paid for itself in about 1 1/2 years.
flatbed rules!!!
Just grab you a 10 dollar 35 gallon rubbermaid style container at walmart or whereever and you are good to go.
donnamb
07-09-06, 03:16 PM
Do you know anyone who has a BOB? It seems like people don't know if they like one wheel trailers versus 2 until they try them out. I found I prefer 2 wheels and will go with the Burley Flatbed as my first trailer. I am told their hitch style is very good for beginning bike trailer pullers.
Also, you are a college student, right? Do you think a one wheel trailer would be challenging to balance and pull if you are sleep-deprived and highly stressed-out?
new_dharma
07-09-06, 03:38 PM
trailer?? What about an Xtracycle?? What about an SUB pulling a Burly??? hmmm...
wahoonc
07-09-06, 03:40 PM
I have pulled both and they both have their pros and cons. And not really very strong either way. The single wheel trailer is typically a bit narrower than the double wheel, so is less intrusive in a tight fit situation like single track or heavy traffic. It only has one wheel so less rolling resistance, and tracks directly behind the bike wheels. The double wheel trailers are a bit more stable, can carry bulkier loads. But require added attention to keep from dropping a wheel off the edge of the road and hitting objects like curbs and road kill. They also require you to stay even further out in the lane of traffic. I have actually been pulled over for towing a trailer in city traffic...
Aaron:)
joejack951
07-09-06, 05:43 PM
I have pulled both and they both have their pros and cons. And not really very strong either way. The single wheel trailer is typically a bit narrower than the double wheel, so is less intrusive in a tight fit situation like single track or heavy traffic. It only has one wheel so less rolling resistance, and tracks directly behind the bike wheels. The double wheel trailers are a bit more stable, can carry bulkier loads. But require added attention to keep from dropping a wheel off the edge of the road and hitting objects like curbs and road kill. They also require you to stay even further out in the lane of traffic. I have actually been pulled over for towing a trailer in city traffic...
Aaron:)
Pulled over? For what? That cop would've gotten an earful from me.
I've never had any problems towing my Flatbed aside from thinking I missed a pothole then hearing the trailer bouncing around. Whoops. It only becomes really noticeable at quite heavy loads (50+ lbs.) at which point you can feel a constant tug on the bike with every pedal stroke. At a more reasonable load, it just like climbing a constant hill. I ride out in traffic all the time so the extra width just makes me more visible, and motorists prove this by giving me more room.
Silverexpress
07-09-06, 06:00 PM
www.carryfreedom.com
checkout the following thread...
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=203644&page=3
posting #58
A very sturdy frame that allows you to attach homebuilt platforms to it or anything else your imagination can think up of (oh....and a myriad of boxes)
I ride out in traffic all the time {w/flatbed} so the extra width just makes me more visible, and motorists prove this by giving me more room.
The only problem I have with mine in traffic is there is a certain percent of the drivers, who are so wigged out by a bicycle pulling a trailer, that they pop a fuse and forget how to pass. Every now and then I find myself pulling over to let some confused driver pass before they start stacking up traffic.
--A
wahoonc
07-09-06, 06:27 PM
Pulled over? For what? That cop would've gotten an earful from me.
Never really figured it out, he seemed to think I should be on the sidewalk, and I kindly pointed out that it was illegal by city code. Then he mentioned something about obstructing traffic? At 0700 on a Sunday on a multilane road? I mentioned that I wanted his name and badge number (already had the unit number) and his supervisor's name and phone number. Suddenly it didn't seem so important to him. I wont normally give an officer an earful, it has a tendency to cause instant trouble. They have to be on the edge and too many druggies, and gang bangers give them grief. If I had gotten a ticket I would have gone thru channels and toasted his sorry butt for ingnorance of the law.
Aaron:)
littlefoot
07-09-06, 07:16 PM
I know Burley is behind on building bikes...I assume the trailers are a bit behind as well. You might check out Action Bent...they have a knock off trailer like the BOB and a two wheeler...don't have any experience with their products.
I have always liked the Nomad when I was looking into a trailer while planning a cross country tour...that top rack just screams for fishing poles.....:D
You can leave the sides off the Nomad. Or the top. When our folding bike arrived at our LBS, I towed the Nomad over, took it's top off loaded the Dahon into the Nomad, strapped it down, and pulled it home.
I *think* you should be able to rig up a deal to use the Nomad as a shopping cart. This seems like a slightly harder thing to do with the BoB. The Nomad's a little narrower than a flatbed, and (again) I think it goes through doorways. Don't recall though.
joejack951
07-09-06, 08:16 PM
Never really figured it out, he seemed to think I should be on the sidewalk, and I kindly pointed out that it was illegal by city code. Then he mentioned something about obstructing traffic? At 0700 on a Sunday on a multilane road? I mentioned that I wanted his name and badge number (already had the unit number) and his supervisor's name and phone number. Suddenly it didn't seem so important to him. I wont normally give an officer an earful, it has a tendency to cause instant trouble. They have to be on the edge and too many druggies, and gang bangers give them grief. If I had gotten a ticket I would have gone thru channels and toasted his sorry butt for ingnorance of the law.
Aaron:)
Ok, I thought you actually received a ticket for something like "impeding traffic." Funny that I had a similar experience (not towing a trailer though) on a ride with my dad (on Father's Day no less) where a cop pulled us over to order us onto the shoulder. This was at 6:30am on a Sunday with no traffic in either direction on a 2 lane each way road. I could have been nicer to him (he got an earful) but he had me pretty fired up after he pulled up behind us and started honking his horn for a while. I didn't move until he turned on the lights and by that time I was ready :)
mudskipper99
07-10-06, 08:44 AM
I know Burley is behind on building bikes...I assume the trailers are a bit behind as well.
Ive now been waiting 6 weeks and 3 days for my Nomad I ordered. Still no word on when its coming. Arg!
mihlbach
07-10-06, 09:41 AM
I have a Burley Solo, which I use to pull my 2-year-old around in. I used it everyday, year round, 5-7 days a week for more than a year and a half now. Its been in just about every kind of terrain imaginable for thousands of miles, and even though I can't help you with the Nomad, I can tell you that Burley makes solid and reliable trailers. Mine is filthy, scuffed, and totally beat up, but it is as rigid, quiet, and smooth as the day I bought it.
wahoonc
07-10-06, 05:54 PM
Found a new trailer (http://www.tonystrailers.com/) website:p some of these are prety sharp.
Aaron:)
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