View Full Version : Will Floyd be a TDF contender next year after a hip replacement?
BlueTrain2004
07-09-06, 02:34 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/sports/othersports/10landiscnd.html
Wow. If this is true, and he's only at about80%, I can't wait to see him at 100%!!! :eek:
Go Landis!
Koffee
-VELOCITY-
07-09-06, 02:55 PM
My first choice is Hincapie. But I would love to see Floyd take the whole thing. Something about his attitude that I really like.
Alekhine
07-09-06, 02:56 PM
I can't in good conscience support anyone whose favorite musical artist is Kid Rock.
So go Hincapie!
I'm all good with Kid Rock. He's cool.
Go Landis! :D ;)
Koffee
Dead Extra #2
07-09-06, 05:09 PM
I can't in good conscience support anyone whose favorite musical artist is Kid Rock.
So go Hincapie!
His favorite artist? I though he was Kid Rock. I've never seen them in the same room together.
Go Floyd!
Floyd is a TDF contender with a hip that's about 50% rotted away, god only knows how good he'll be with a nice smooth titanium and teflon jobbie.
domestique
07-09-06, 06:46 PM
Here is what velonews is saying:
http://www.velonews.com/tour2006/news/articles/10316.0.html
Will Floyd be a TDF contender next year after a hip replacement? When I think that my mom could barely walk from the car to the house before her hip replacement, and was climbing ladders up cliffs to tour Anazasi pueblo ruins the next year, I'd have to say not only yes, but hell yes. :D
Dagna
-VELOCITY-
07-09-06, 07:05 PM
I personally think Kid Rock sucks but I still would root for Landis. It's not Floyd's fault that Kid Rock sucks.
StalkerZERO
07-09-06, 09:17 PM
umm....I dunno.
I wish him the best. But I can still remember when Bo Jackson had just had his hip replaced and he played a baseball game. He was out in the field running from home to 1st and his hip was twisting VERY unnaturally....freaky even. And I wouldn't call what he was doing "running" by any stretch of the imagination. Not sure how to describe his movement.
Bo never played professionally again after that game. :(
What is the state of the technology at this point? Will Landis be able to get 100 percent full function?
Wow, that's really sad to hear. I sure hope this isn't the end of his career, but I know nothing about the procedure, though I suspect we'll know a lot more tomorrow.
daredevil
07-09-06, 10:49 PM
Absent any muscle damage, which it sounds like he doesn't have, my guess is that he'll be good as ever if not better.
umm....I dunno.
I wish him the best. But I can still remember when Bo Jackson had just had his hip replaced and he played a baseball game. He was out in the field running from home to 1st and his hip was twisting VERY unnaturally....freaky even. And I wouldn't call what he was doing "running" by any stretch of the imagination. Not sure how to describe his movement.
Bo never played professionally again after that game. :(
What is the state of the technology at this point? Will Landis be able to get 100 percent full function?
Landis and his doctor seem to think that a Bo Jackson result is unlikely because he doesn't have to worry about weight-bearing being an issue while cycling. They also don't know what will really happen. Regardless, it will help a great guy walk and live without so much pain.
Hipcycler
07-10-06, 06:30 AM
To the OP:
In a word--YES!
See avatar....I speak from experience here.
I actually think it will help and could make him better because he won't have to deal with a limp or pain while walking, etc. off the bike. The muscles involved will be trained to keep a more straight alignment from the hip down.
Another reason for me to personally bond with Floyd the biker....my pick to win it all this year (once Basso was booted I admit)
CyLowe97
07-10-06, 07:03 AM
Hey, Bo Jackson came back to professional baseball for a time with a fresh hip, why not Floyd for a year or two?
Hip, now you have a FANTASTIC reason to get Floyd on the Greenhouse Show.... can you get that set up, and if so, can Floyd meet everyone for a ride? Maybe some titanium/ceramic wristbands with a statement of "It's Hip to be Square Tapered" or something like that? All proceeds going to some worthy cause like osteoperosis or arthritis or some other degenerative bone condition?
Hipcycler
07-10-06, 12:41 PM
Hey, Bo Jackson came back to professional baseball for a time with a fresh hip, why not Floyd for a year or two?
Hip, now you have a FANTASTIC reason to get Floyd on the Greenhouse Show.... can you get that set up, and if so, can Floyd meet everyone for a ride? Maybe some titanium/ceramic wristbands with a statement of "It's Hip to be Square Tapered" or something like that? All proceeds going to some worthy cause like osteoperosis or arthritis or some other degenerative bone condition?
I like it....
Will work on it....
I guess he won't be doing the Tour of Elk Grove. Dang.
http://www.tourofelkgrove.com/
Helmet Head
07-10-06, 04:01 PM
“Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world’s first hip-replaced cyclist. Floyd Landis will be that man. Better than he was before. Better…stronger…faster.” - Oscar Goldman
Keith99
07-10-06, 04:05 PM
I would tend to say no. As in not next year. Recovery takes time. But the year after that could be an entirely different story.
Primetime75
07-10-06, 04:45 PM
I can see it now. Floyd makes Lance like recovery and wins the tour two years in a row.
What color will his joint replacement support bracelets by.
CyLowe97
07-10-06, 06:43 PM
What color will his joint replacement support bracelets by.
See post 16 above.
'Maybe some titanium/ceramic wristbands with a statement of "It's Hip to be Square Tapered" or something like that?'
Yes, yes, my fine attempt at Campy humor.... :rolleyes:
Laggard
07-10-06, 10:51 PM
Floyd's 31. Hip replacement will cost him most of next year. These guys are so highly tuned that something like that will take a year to get used to. There's a huge difference between your grandma and an elite cyclist.
He'll maybe be 33 when he competes in another Tour. 33 with an artifical hip? Can't see it happening. 32 with an artifical hip? If he does go through with it, this year is his last real shot at the tdf.
NuCommuter
07-10-06, 11:35 PM
The surgery has come a long way. They now mark the exact relation of the hip to the socket prior to replacement, and use a computer to align the prosthetic hip correctly. So he probably won't have any odd movement--but on the other hand this is major surgery, and even a recovery that would be considered more than satisfactory to most of us could easily end a pro athlete's career.
I'm amazed he can ride on a necrotic hip. He's got to be minimizing just how much that hurts. Other people I've known with this condition have been severely disabled. An equestrienne friend just had the surgery last month, and is now hobbling around--but pain free. For Landis, the psychological pain--knowing that you're that good, but fearing that your career is over--must be as bad as the physical. Maybe that's what's driving him to win this one.
NuCommuter (M.D.)
To the OP:
In a word--YES!
See avatar....I speak from experience here.
I actually think it will help and could make him better because he won't have to deal with a limp or pain while walking, etc. off the bike. The muscles involved will be trained to keep a more straight alignment from the hip down.
Another reason for me to personally bond with Floyd the biker....my pick to win it all this year (once Basso was booted I admit)
Hip- people are saying Floyd is out for '07 TDF. Do you concur with that?
Hipcycler
07-11-06, 07:45 AM
Hip- people are saying Floyd is out for '07 TDF. Do you concur with that?
I think he COULD ride it, but not as a contender to win it all.
Look, if he can do what he is doing in his condition now, I think he could rehab back enough to compete, but not at the level of a contender.
It is going to take 6-8 weeks after the surgery.....hard rehab.
Then those muscles have to learn how to support him correctly after two years of limping. This is EXACTLY what I went through with my right hip, which is the same side he has going.
It's not the replacement that is a factor here. It's the muscles around it that are key. At his young age it will most likely be a press fit job into the leg, not cemented. That means the bone actually grows into the titanium rod down there.
His hip pain will be gone immediately after the surgery. But the work comes in building up the muscles afterward.
That takes time.
Eventually, I believe he can be as good as new and competitive to win a major tour, just not in '07.
I think he COULD ride it, but not as a contender to win it all.
Look, if he can do what he is doing in his condition now, I think he could rehab back enough to compete, but not at the level of a contender.
It is going to take 6-8 weeks after the surgery.....hard rehab.
Then those muscles have to learn how to support him correctly after two years of limping. This is EXACTLY what I went through with my right hip, which is the same side he has going.
It's not the replacement that is a factor here. It's the muscles around it that are key. At his young age it will most likely be a press fit job into the leg, not cemented. That means the bone actually grows into the titanium rod down there.
His hip pain will be gone immediately after the surgery. But the work comes in building up the muscles afterward.
That takes time.
Eventually, I believe he can be as good as new and competitive to win a major tour, just not in '07.
Are the muscles he needs the two year recovery on walking muscles only or cycling muscles as well-or is that too patient specific to speculate on?
Hipcycler
07-12-06, 06:59 AM
Both.
I-T band is a biggie.
It's the group that holds the leg in allignment.
Trust me, this guy will be good as new barring any complications....but it will take some time. I suspect less time than most humans however!
Both.
I-T band is a biggie.
It's the group that holds the leg in allignment.
Trust me, this guy will be good as new barring any complications....but it will take some time. I suspect less time than most humans however!
landis is a mutant. i was laying on my back when i took this picture of him @ amgen as he rode over me like a giant preying mantis.
ed rader
http://www.fototime.com/B1FE5AD7F070355/orig.jpg
Nachoman
07-16-06, 10:49 AM
My mom just had hip surgery. A total hip replacement. She is rooting for Floyd.
It's not the replacement that is a factor here. It's the muscles around it that are key. At his young age it will most likely be a press fit job into the leg, not cemented. That means the bone actually grows into the titanium rod down there.
The other thing he has going for him is that he is relatively young, and the muscles will heal more quickly than they would for someone who is older.
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