Mountain Biking - 2007 Bike lines

I was just hoping we could have one central thread for this, as I've been looking around and finding some awesome stuff.

First of all look at the new carbon dh bikes.

I don't know if this is a demo, or bighit or what.

Full Story (http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2060)

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2060-1.jpg

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2060-7.jpg

27 lbs
and specialized is now making their own shocks. First time they made their own rear and front shock.

07 Demo (http://www.nsmb.com/gear/spec07_05_06.php)

http://www.nsmb.com/images/gear/specialized06/d8deet2.jpg
Demo

http://www.dropmachine.com/media/watermark.php?file=20764
07 Enduro

Kona- I know some people posted some stuff about the kona dualie line. This is showing some of the hardtails.

Kona article (http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2025)

Kula lisa (http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2025-7.jpg)


http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2025-6.jpg
can't tell which model this is, but the paint scheme is sex.

http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/1310/colairsupreme7dk.jpg
Coilar

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9290/dawgsupreme2pl.jpg
Dawg supreme

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7066/howler5wl.jpg
Howler

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/6443/kingkikapu5kt.jpg
King kikapu

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/345/queenkikapu8hh.jpg
Queen kikapu

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/9828/stabsupreme7tk.jpg
Stab supreme

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/4194/stinky7uw.jpg
Stinky

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/807/cindercone7pt.jpg
Cinder cone

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2025-14.jpg
stuff

Stinky primo (http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/6204/stinkyprimo9aq.jpg)

stuff (http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/5888/stuff2qq.jpg)

dawg supreme (http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2025-4.jpg)

Trek

3700 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/3700.html#largerview)

4300 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/4300.html#largerview)

4500 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/4500.html#largerview)


6000 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/6000.html#largerview)

6500 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/6500.html#)


8000 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/8000.html#largerview)


8500 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/8500.html#largerview)

That first bike is the Enduro. Curvy lines like the SC Nomad.

http://insidelinemtb.com/nuke/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2077&sid=47c3a1e16c2ec899daa89edd2142f4ca all the kona's

The two top of the line fuels

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tech/features/trek_mtb_2007_2/Trek_Fuel_EX_9_5.jpg

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tech/features/trek_mtb_2007_2/Trek_Top_Fuel.jpg

Trek's Top Fuel line has been expanded to five models for '07 which now includes lower price-point aluminum model as well as a top-end superlight carbon version which reputedly weighs less than 20lb. The OCLV 110 carbon frames receive a new one-piece top tube/head tube, similar to that used on the road going Madone, as well as a new OCLV carbon bottom bracket lug. Aluminum models use the company's proprietary ZR9000 aluminum tubing which is heavily shaped for rigidity and strength. All Top Fuel bikes will sport 90mm of rear wheel travel and are designed around 100mm travel forks. In a nod to the bikes' race-orientated riders, bottom bracket shell widths have also been downsized to 68mm to facilitate the use of narrower a 2x9 drivetrain.

By its own admission, Trek's new "R1 Tuned Suspension" system is more of an evolutionary progression rather than a wholly new offering as all models use the same basic modified single pivot-plus-rocker link layout that has been used since the introduction of the original Fuel. However, although the layout remains the same, little else does. Sealed cartridge bearings are now used at each pivot for enhanced durability and a reported 66 percent improvement in small bump sensitivity. Trek paid considerable attention to the main pivot in particular, which now uses press-fit oversized bearings that are set in a new 'Wide Stance' spacing for better swingarm rigidity. In addition, new welded aluminum HiLo asymmetric chainstays help to yield a 200g weight savings as compared to last year's assemblies. In spite of its decidedly racer-oriented intent, the new rear end also provides more clearance with room for up to 2.5in rubber.

As with the Top Fuel, the Fuel EX family has grown significantly and now includes eight models, including two women's-specific versions. Upper-end versions get a travel increase for '07, and now have 120mm of rear travel and 130mm travel forks, while lower price point models retain the 100mm of travel from the previous year. Better component specifications have dropped the weights dramatically across the board, most notably in the aluminum Fuel EX 8 which has shed a full 2lb relative to the '06 model.

The frames themselves are also lighter and include new asymmetric ZR9000 rear triangles using the same Wide Stance bearing spacing and press-fit oversized sealed cartridge bearings as on the Top Fuel. Fuel EX rear ends also receive proper seatstay-located dropout pivots improve small bump compliance and also remove any built-in "springiness" that existed in the old rear end for more precise tuning.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tech/features/trek_mtb_2007_2/HiLo_chainstay_assembly.jpg

Trek’s new HiLo chainstay assemblies allegedly save up to 200g over last year’s setups..

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tech/features/trek_mtb_2007_2/Trek_Fuel_EX_9_5_linkage.jpg

New forged aluminum rockers on the Fuel EX are carved out to reduce weight yet are still fully bearing-equipped for smooth operation

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tech/features/trek_mtb_2007_2/Trek_Top_Fuel_main_pivot.jpg

Main pivot on the new Top Fuel receives Wide Stance bearing spacing and press-fit oversized cartridge bearings. Chainstays are asymmetric to maximum the efficient use of material.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tech/features/trek_mtb_2007_2/Gary_Fisher_Supercaliber_main_pivot.jpg
Large diameter, swingarm-located cartridge bearings provide lateral support for the rear end. Narrow 68mm bottom bracket shell makes for easier 2x9 conversions and tighter q-factors.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tech/features/trek_mtb_2007_2/Trek_Fuel_EX_head_tube.jpg

The ’07 carbon Fuel EX utilizes a one-piece top tube/head tube construction similar to that used in the roadgoing Madone.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2006/tech/features/trek_mtb_2007_2/Trek_Fuel_EX_fork.jpg

Upper-end Fuel EX models receive heavy suspension spec from Fox Racing Shox.

Some of the Trek 2007 stuff, I'm really diggin the 6 and 8 series Trek hardtails personally.

http://www3.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/remedy6_navy.jpg
http://www3.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/8500_black.jpg
http://www3.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/6700_bajasilver.jpg
http://www3.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/6000_orangeblack.jpg

And some of the low-end stuff, which looks largely unchanged from 2006.
http://www3.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/820_orangesilver.jpg
http://www3.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/3900_blacksilver.jpg
http://www3.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/4300_smokesilver.jpg

http://insidelinemtb.com/nuke/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2077&sid=47c3a1e16c2ec899daa89edd2142f4ca all the kona's
I resized those gigantic pics, Ill add them to the kona post.

Marzochi 2007
http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2061

Manitou: rear shocks 07
http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2058

Manitou Front shocks 07
http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2052

Xtr 07 line
http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2050

I saw Brandon Sloan riding a new Enduro at the NORBA race at Sugar Mtn in the superD. Pretty nice looking bike but he had duct tape all over it.

http://bikemagic.com/news/article/mps/UAN/4929/v/1/sp/

Don't know what in the heck Specialized is thinking by going back to in house shocks and suspension forks. Even Cannondale's forks are primarily Fox's and manitous.

I'm just wondering if the new specialized forks are only going to be on higher end bikes. Or if they are going to have a wider range, on all of the bikes.

If they did decide to make ALL their own forks, which I doubt. I think this years line is going to be interesting.

Dang I love the new konas and the Trek 6000 :eek:

http://bikemagic.com/news/article/mps/UAN/4929/v/1/sp/

Don't know what in the heck Specialized is thinking by going back to in house shocks and suspension forks. Even Cannondale's forks are primarily Fox's and manitous.

I thought the lefty was in-house; proprietary design for Cannondale's only?

Hey, Pheard...what's up with all the coverage of the big dogs? Where's the dirt on Scott, Cove, Evil, etc./??:beer:

Inquiring minds want to know. It's not all about the "big three", dude.:D

I can't find anything for cove, or scott. Its easy to find info for the big dogs.


Patent Suit Forces Scott USA to Change Design
By Vernon Felton

The Point of Contention: see that rear pivot, the one just in front of the rear dropout. That's the Horst Link.

Bicycle Retailer and Industry News recently reported that Scott USA has decided to drop its legal challenge of Specialized Bicycle’s suspension patents and—here’s the kicker—the end result is that Scott USA will not sell its Genius full-suspension bikes here in the United States. .
http://bikemag.com/news/newsarchive/enduro-370.jpg
The root of the debate lies in a single rear pivot which creates what’s known as the Horst Link. The Horst Link, for those of you who are new to this debate, is a set of rear pivots located on the chainstay just below and in front of the rear drop-out. This suspension design element is named after designer Horst Leitner, who created the system back in 1991 and featured it on his line of AMP bikes. Though AMP went belly up (as far as bikes are concerned) in the late 90’s the design has lived on in Specialized Bicycles line of bikes. Specialized bought the Horst Link patent in May of 1998 and has used the courts to rid competitors’ bike lines of the Horst Link ever since. Giant, GT, Jamis, Ellsworth (though Tony would contend this point), Turner, Intense and a fistful of other companies all used (or still use) the Horst Link on their bikes.

Why? What’s so damn great about this simple pivot point? Oh, that’s a long story, so I’ll strive to keep this short: the Horst Link essentially allows the rear suspension to cycle freely—even when the rear brakes are applied. This is critical because you typically want your rear suspension to move in as smooth and uninhabited a fashion as possible when you’re bombing down some f’d up terrain with that right brake lever locked in a death grip.


http://bikemag.com/news/newsarchive/genius.jpg


The easiest alternative to the Horst Link (on a four-bar style bike) is to place the rear pivot on the seat stay, just above the rear quick release. To the untrained eye, the difference is negligible—but you can feel the difference (at least on longer-travel dualies) when you apply the brakes on a seat-stay pivot bike and the rear suspension stiffens slightly and the rear wheel stops sucking up bumps so seamlessly.

So….for all of the above reasons (and a few more I won’t bore you with) the Horst Link was a critical element of many bike company designs in the late 90s. Specialized Bicycle purchase of the patent and steady clamp down on the design forced several companies to completely ditch popular bike designs and search for some new Holy Grail of suspension. That’s essentially why I-Drive was born and it also explains why so many companies (such as Giant, Haro, Ibis and Iron Horse) are pursuing "floating pivot point" designs that take a design cue from Santa Cruz Bicycles' patented Virtual Pivot Point system.

NOTE TO READERS: I received an email from Rob Roskopp at Santa Cruz Bicycles (shortly after this story was published), reminding me that Floating Pivot Point designs are NOT the same as his company's Virtual Pivot Point design.

To put it in Rob's own words, "Only Santa Cruz and Intense use the patented VPP System and the other companies listed are using a “floating pivot point” system that is essentially derived from VPP, but doesn’t use the counter rotating links found only on VPP bikes." Point well taken.

Undiscovered Genius: here's the bike that Scott won't sell in the U.S.A.

But I’ve lapsed and strayed far and long from the headline here, right? Scott USA recently returned to the U.S. after a long stay in Europe (where the brand is huge—crazy, superstar popular). Back in Europe, you’ll find Horst Links on damn near every dualie because Specialized Bicycle’s patent rights on Horst Link don’t apply over there.

So, Scott USA (despite its yankee name) has been disco dancing in Euro for years and had a line of very cool bikes (that’d be the “Genius” models…which are damn popular in 60 other countries) sporting Horst links. When they returned to America a few years ago they were hot to bring their Genius bikes to market…alas, there were the pesky lawyers to contend with. So, for the past year and a half we’ve been hearing that the issue was going to be resolved and that Genius bikes would one day frolick and hold hands with FSRs here in America….that ain’t going to happen.

Specialized was once fairly open to licensing the Horst Link to other companies, but has become a bit more guarded over the years. Bottom line: if you’re a small company that presents little risk to Specialized’s market share, they might let you pay to put the Horst Link on your bikes. If you’re a real rival for floor space in bike shops, however, the odds of Specialized licensing that patent to you are slim to none.

“The FSR design has proved itself and our business has matured. Now differentiation is more important to us and our dealers, so we are not looking for additional licensees for this technology,” Sinyard told BRAIN.

Scott's Ransom is their current long-travel answer to FSR. Expect a new cross-country design in 07.

Scott USA, for its part, is publicly stating that this is no big thing—that they’ve got other great designs on the back burner, which they will focus on instead—including their all-carbon freeride bike, the Ransom. They’ve also hinted that they will have the three to five-inch travel segment of their line completely fleshed out and available in 2007.

http://bikemag.com/news/newsarchive/ransom.jpg
“After 18 months of battling it out in court the judge said the case was too close to call. The next step was going to trial,” Scott Montgomery, Scott USA’s vice president, told BRAIN. “Our dealers have pre-ordered so many Ransoms that it didn’t make sense to continue to spend money on the suit. We have other great designs in development, so it’s time to settle with Specialized and move on,” Montgomery said. “Of course we missed the three- to five-inch suspension travel segment because of our involvement in the suit, but we will have that addressed in 2007.”

ow my dial up hurts :( but the pics are sweet...

Trek bikes are to generic and plain... there all the same kind of boring in my opinion.

Thanks, Pheard. Keep it comin'.

Trek

3700 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/3700.html#largerview)

4300 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/4300.html#largerview)

4500 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/4500.html#largerview)

http://www3.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/6000_orangeblack.jpg
6000 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/6000.html#largerview)

http://www3.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/6500_yellowblack.jpg
6500 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/6500.html#)

http://www3.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/8000_silver.jpg
8000 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/8000.html#largerview)

http://www3.trekbikes.com/images/bikes_my07/large/8500_black.jpg
8500 (http://www3.trekbikes.com/Bikes/2007/mountain/8500.html#largerview)


Better colors from Trek. Their recreational mountain bikes have looked kinda plain jain for quite a while now.

Here is some more info and very nice pictures on the new Scott USA Ransom.
http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=1715&PHPSESSID=582d1c841b4893cf707a588cdca86a5e

http://www.nsmb.com/images/gear/specialized06/d8deet2.jpg
:love:Demo:love:

Damn those demos look NICE....awesome paint jobs on them!

Dang I love the new konas and the Trek 6000 :eek:

i agree the kona kula supreme and trek 6000 are lookin real nice to me

I really like this paint scheme.

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2025-6.jpg

I can't tell which model it is. This bike and the lisa kula are almost the same.

http://bikemagic.com/news/article/mps/UAN/4929/v/1/sp/

Don't know what in the heck Specialized is thinking by going back to in house shocks and suspension forks. Even Cannondale's forks are primarily Fox's and manitous.

It makes perfect sense, business-wise. I think Specialized is being a tad greedy here, and it's gonna hurt them, IMO at least. But then again, it could also expand them...and either way, I've always disliked Specialized. ;)

Oh, and those Trek 8x00s are looking super-sweet!

http://www.wheelspincycles.com/smsimg/40/1478-6005-full-mii-main-40.jpg
http://www.wheelspincycles.com/products.php?plid=m1b0s2p1478&z=1255
http://www.wheelspincycles.com/products.php?plid=m1b0s2p1478&z=1256

the 2007 orange ms isle... the only orange i could find!

im really digging the new kona graphics... and for that matter the demos paint job and the paint jobs on some of the Marzochi 07 range!!

I was just hoping we could have one central thread for this, as I've been looking around and finding some awesome stuff.

First of all look at the new carbon dh bikes.

I don't know if this is a demo, or bighit or what.

Full Story (http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2060)

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2060-1.jpg

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2060-7.jpg

27 lbs
and specialized is now making their own shocks. First time they made their own rear and front shock.

that sir, appears to be an s-works enduro (based on the last picture you linked to).

I was just hoping we could have one central thread for this, as I've been looking around and finding some awesome stuff.

First of all look at the new carbon dh bikes.

I don't know if this is a demo, or bighit or what.

Full Story (http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2060)

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2060-1.jpg

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2060-7.jpg

27 lbs
and specialized is now making their own shocks. First time they made their own rear and front shock.

07 Demo (http://www.nsmb.com/gear/spec07_05_06.php)

http://www.nsmb.com/images/gear/specialized06/d8deet2.jpg
Demo

http://www.dropmachine.com/media/watermark.php?file=20764
07 Enduro


i'm pretty sure that demo isn't going to be painted like that when they release it. i read somewhere that it was just that one bike that was painted with the orange/yellow splashes.

there was also another one with argyle on it, which i thought was rreally nice, but they also said there will be no argyle.

it's in this article: http://www.nsmb.com/gear/spec07_05_06.php

I was just hoping we could have one central thread for this, as I've been looking around and finding some awesome stuff.

First of all look at the new carbon dh bikes.

I don't know if this is a demo, or bighit or what.

Full Story (http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2060)

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2060-1.jpg

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2060-7.jpg

27 lbs
and specialized is now making their own shocks. First time they made their own rear and front shock.

07 Demo (http://www.nsmb.com/gear/spec07_05_06.php)

http://www.nsmb.com/images/gear/specialized06/d8deet2.jpg
Demo

http://www.dropmachine.com/media/watermark.php?file=20764
07 Enduro


i'm pretty sure that demo isn't going to be painted like that when they release it. i read somewhere that it was just that one bike that was painted with the orange/yellow splashes.

there was also another one with argyle on it, which i thought was rreally nice, but they also said there will be no argyle.

it's in this article: http://www.nsmb.com/gear/spec07_05_06.php

My 2007 Stumpjumper FSR Comp has Fox front and rear :

FOX Triad (ProPedal, Open and Lock out)

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/Ranzak/P1010016.jpg



Float (Lock out-able)

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/Ranzak/P1010024.jpg


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k222/Ranzak/dadsfullbike1.jpg

Second part of specialized article (http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2062)

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2062-6.jpg.

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2060-2.jpg
Note the specialized rear shock

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2062-7.jpg

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/2062-8.jpg
Sub 20 lbs epic

Sorry but this thread has to be the biggest waste of server space I have ever seen. Some of the posts, like those hideous new treks are posted like 3 times or more!

Sorry but this thread has to be the biggest waste of server space I have ever seen. Some of the posts, like those hideous new treks are posted like 3 times or more!


It would be kind of nice if people would stop quoting the pictures. It makes reading through the thread kind of a pain. I disagree about the treks though, I think they are a huge improvement over the look of their '06 bikess. Some of the color combos are gross but most of the bikes have atleast 1 decent scheme.

Sorry but this thread has to be the biggest waste of server space I have ever seen. Some of the posts, like those hideous new treks are posted like 3 times or more!
Not my fault people reposted trek pictures, Ill delete the pictures and just leave the links. In regards to the treks, I think they are sex.

I think this should be separated into brands somehow, maybe make a few threads, a specialized thread, a trek thread and make this an indexing thread, otherwise its too much of a mess.

I think they are sex.

Well I think maybe you should have "the talk" with your parents.

mcoine, Pheard was just try to share with us one thread where we could see the available info on the new bikes. He wasn't trying to "waste" server space. I think that he was just trying to be nice. Putting out a few threads instead of one is wasting. Give the guy a little credit.

Well I think maybe you should have "the talk" with your parents.
I think maybe someone should tell your parents dial-up is just about obsolete. The point of the thread was because people were referencing 07 bikes in other threads, just thought it would be useful in one thread.

none of the 07 norco's???

I think maybe someone should tell your parents dial-up is just about obsolete. The point of the thread was because people were referencing 07 bikes in other threads, just thought it would be useful in one thread.

I don't live with my parents.

I don't have dial-up.

Dial-up IS obsolete.

I wasn't busting pheard for posting the thread, just all the people that reply with the dozen pics attached that we have already seen.

The Specialized rear shock looks very Fox like to me.... Also Specialized wouldn't go half arsed in a project to ruin their name so I'd assume they were very nice parts an they did do their own suspension back in the day, ahhhh Future Shock's back in like 1993?

I dont think im diggin the new scheme of the rockhopper there..

Thanks for the link to the 2007 Trek 4300 - now I can see official specs and what changed over the '06 model before buying one.

The crankset went from a Suntour XCC-150 (http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/SID=sicffd61ef505b45869f1a7ca83275ea/index.php?screen=sh.detail&tnid=207) 42/34/24 to a XCC-T102 42/34/24 - is anyone familar with T102 or can comment if it's better or equal since I can't find the T102 on the company site? - thank!!


The only other difference I see is the change to the front GST suspension from the Gila T6 (http://www.rst.com.tw/product/pd2006/gila-sl.htm) to the T7 (http://www.rst.com.tw/product/pd2007/gila.htm) ..both w/preload, 80mm.

Thanks in advance...really like the new silver one this year.

I was definitely interested in some of the new rockshox line. They did some sick designs.

http://www.mtbr.com/spotlight/srammediacamp06 (http://www.mtbr.com/spotlight/srammediacamp06/)

http://www.mtbr.com/spotlight/srammediacamp06/images/lyrik1.jpg
http://www.mtbr.com/spotlight/srammediacamp06/images/lyrik2.jpg

Rockshox Lyrik 115-160mm travel

http://www.mtbr.com/spotlight/srammediacamp06/images/totem1.jpg

Totem coil 180mm

http://www.mtbr.com/spotlight/srammediacamp06/images/totem2.jpg

Totem solo air


Man rockshox is stepping on the fr scene.

Sorry but this thread has to be the biggest waste of server space I have ever seen. Some of the posts, like those hideous new treks are posted like 3 times or more!

They aren't stored on the server. They are links to other servers (singletrackworld and trekbikes) so they take up no space on this server

Thanks for the link to the 2007 Trek 4300 - now I can see official specs and what changed over the '06 model before buying one.

The crankset went from a Suntour XCC-150 (http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/SID=sicffd61ef505b45869f1a7ca83275ea/index.php?screen=sh.detail&tnid=207) 42/34/24 to a XCC-T102 42/34/24 - is anyone familar with T102 or can comment if it's better or equal since I can't find the T102 on the company site? - thank!!


The only other difference I see is the change to the front GST suspension from the Gila T6 (http://www.rst.com.tw/product/pd2006/gila-sl.htm) to the T7 (http://www.rst.com.tw/product/pd2007/gila.htm) ..both w/preload, 80mm.

Thanks in advance...really like the new silver one this year.

20 to 1 the differences will be negligable. They are both in the equal value range.

When will the '07 Trek 8500 be available?

Check out the 07 kona line, they finally posted them

http://www.konaworld.com/bikes/2k7/index.html

This was the paint job I was loving.

http://www.konaworld.com/bikes/2k7/2K7_Bike_Images/2K7_KULASPRM_blowup.jpg

Damnnnn, XC bikes are looking more like race machines every year!

I really like the new paint jobs on the higher end trek hard tails and the new rock shox totem is pretty cool.

Anybody know what that white X is on the front derailleur of the kula supreme?

Damnnnn, XC bikes are looking more like race machines every year!

I really like the new paint jobs on the higher end trek hard tails and the new rock shox totem is pretty cool.

Anybody know what that white X is on the front derailleur of the kula supreme?
Look at the rear derailer, it has an x too and it says xtr. Must be the new design for the 07 xtr line.

Look at the rear derailer, it has an x too and it says xtr. Must be the new design for the 07 xtr line.
that sir, it is. there was a thread about the new 07 shimano xtr groupo posted on dropmachine back in march. there are some pictures posted somewhere on the thread: http://www.dropmachine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16339