Australia - New Zealand - The Aussie thread. . . part cinq.

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classic1
12-19-06, 02:13 AM
Davo used to coach me years ago.
'We don't talk down here, we talk up here' (while holding hand close to floor, then raising to head height) was always a personal favourite of mine. :)
Jeez you blokes go on with some crap, eh?
classic1
12-19-06, 05:31 AM
Of course. There are standards to maintain.
Jeez you blokes go on with some crap, eh?
Well, this is The Aussie Thread. Happy holidays to you, cobber. :beer:
Well, this is The Aussie Thread. Happy holidays to you, cobber. :beer:
Why ty. And a chortling August Bank Holiday Island to you to Expat! :beer: :beer:
me thinks you are a bloody good rider as is ed....
yeah....that Ed bloke is a gun.
Crikey.
Get Dave Sanders on line 1!!
just go straight to Lance, Ivan needs some help. :p
531Aussie
12-19-06, 06:58 PM
where is Nev? I had a bloody good night ride tonight without lights...it was a cracker!!!remember the days when lights were so big that ther was NO FARKN WAY they were gunna be put on your bike? :)
Hitchy's still like that with his Look :p
531Aussie
12-19-06, 07:41 PM
:roflmao: I bought one from torpedo...put it on my bike...stepped back and looked at it...took it off...threw it in the bin.: you'd die if you saw mine. I've had a couple of rear lights stuff up when they fill up with water on wet days, so I have (on my BMC) my tail light permanently wrapped in plastic! I even had it on when I raced the other night :p
So how about this book? you come up with the stories, ill ghost write for you and matagi can play editor There's a funny Rob Crowe article somewhere on the net about all the different Freds that do the Beach Rd group rides, but I can't find it. Among heaps of other stuff, he talks about "mirror mountain" in Brighton, which is just a slight rise next to a building with reflective windows, where everybody checks themselves out......anyway, you had the be there :)
Wilchemy
12-19-06, 08:15 PM
you'd die if you saw mine. I've had a couple of rear lights stuff up when they fill up with water on wet days, so I have (on my BMC) my tail light permanently wrapped in plastic! I even had it on when I raced the other night :p
There's a funny Rob Crowe article somewhere on the net about all the different Freds that do the Beach Rd group rides, but I can't find it. Among heaps of other stuff, he talks about "mirror mountain" in Brighton, which is just a slight rise next to a building with reflective window, where everybody checks themselves out......anyway, you had the be there :)
hehehe I know where that is... you have to be real careful not to get cleaned up by dudes moving off their line while they gaze at their OCP form. :)
Lights these days are pretty good sizewise. And they look better than a smashed bike coz a motorist didn't see you. besides, most of them are pretty easily removed for daytime riding, and just whack em on when you know you'll need them - Which could be mid-afternoon today, considering how friggin smoky it is outside :eek:
hehehe I know where that is... you have to be real careful not to get cleaned up by dudes moving off their line while they gaze at their OCP form. :)
Shout from the back of the bunch..."Hey fcktard...you look fine. Watch the road!!"
Cracks me up everytime.
531Aussie
12-19-06, 08:44 PM
I wave to the people in the mirror who are looking at themselves, or ham it up by flexing a bi or patting my fat guts
http://galaktikal.homestead.com/files/ban.jpg
classic1
12-20-06, 03:02 AM
me thinks you are a bloody good rider as is ed....
I'm half the rider I was. Funnily enough, I'm nearly twice the man......Kilo wise.:D The two points may be somewhat related.
classic1
12-20-06, 06:41 AM
Nah, still plenty of fatties in cricket. I used to like Derek Kickett in footy. How a bloke with that gut could play so well?
classic1
12-20-06, 06:52 AM
Country footy - Shane Loveless was 150kg +
classic1
12-20-06, 06:59 AM
Last time he played down here was for Heyfield in the nth Gippy. Dunno what they paid him but he kicked over 100. Standard in the West Gippsland/Latrobe not as good as in the past. All the young blokes go to Melbourne for work or uni now.
Saw Loveless kick 10 in a LVFL grand final in the late 80's for Sale against Morwell. Big mofo. Used to be a state champ in cycling BTW as a kid.
Some good footy players from out of Gippsland. Quinlan, Templeton, Royal, Dear.
531Aussie
12-20-06, 07:43 AM
what's the deal with you dudes starting to keep my sort of hours??!:p
go to bed!! Are you guys on holidays? I'm going to walk me dog while listeing to
my tape of Sports Tonight. I'm such a geek!!
531Aussie
12-20-06, 08:02 AM
So you RACED with a light...wrapped in plastic...you have no shame? :plast time I raced i went to the trouble of taking off my lights and pump, and carefully stashing them near the start line, then I get in the race and I'm sitting behind some dude with bloody lights on his bike!!! So, I thought, fark it!! :p i thought in the old days we weren't allowed to leave pumps on our bikes, but I dunno
531Aussie
12-20-06, 09:34 AM
In a race how far are they normally? what is it like at the start? does everyone like just warm up together for the first 5km? hows it play out?A, B and C grade races are usually 1hr + 3 laps, but Thursay's race (A-grade Vets) was pretty much bang on 1 hr. Maybe it was cut a bit short because rain was coming; I dunno, I wasn't listening at the start. :) Anyway, routinely, club criteriums are no longer than 75mins.
Warm-ups are a big problem for me; if I don't have a thorough one, and the pace is really hot at the start, I feel like complete crap for the first 30 mins. At Sandown, most guys just ride around the track at half pace for a bit, but many don't do any warm-up. I ride to the course for my warm-up, and try to do a couple of short, hard efforts to get my lungs 'lubricated' :p
If you don't like the sound of the massive Carnegie bunches (I bloody don't), St Kilda and Hawthorn are heaps smaller. Apparently, A-grade at Hawthorn often have less than 20 each week
From my limited experience in recent years with criteriums, you're lucky if the pace is moderate for anything more than the first 2km!! I reckon some dudes like to blast the cobwebs out of their legs early by shooting off the front on their own for a bit, then everyone thinks "hmmm, maybe we better chase him down just in case", then it's ON!!
you look pretty fit in them pics, so just get out there and rip it up! If I was 82kg I'd be just about getting an open Vic license!! :p
Johnny_Monkey
12-20-06, 10:55 AM
Oh we are screwed now!!! Warny is going to retire.....he was the last of the old school 'tubbies'....god i miss arguna ranatunga he had the most impressive beer gut in international cricket :D
Inzamam anyone?
classic1
12-20-06, 02:57 PM
loveless = sprinter?
Yep, but it was in the younger age groups, U14 and U16. Not sure if he raced as a junior.
check out Shane Lee on that awful Ch 9 handyman show Satdee arvo....massive.
Him and Richard Chee-Quee must've been hitting yum chas all over Sydney for years!!
Wilchemy
12-20-06, 03:10 PM
Richard Chee-Quee.....that's a name I haven't heard for a long time.
Richard Chee-Quee.....that's a name I haven't heard for a long time.
Never met a Szechuan banquet he didn't like....
Wilchemy
12-20-06, 03:15 PM
I want to really hurt them :) im not ready yet. i need this summer to myself and next winter. then i will play :) come october or whenever crits start. ill be your lead out train hehehe. farkkkk i need some sleep!!! my sleep patterns have gone to the ****!!
While you are continuing your "preparation" during the year, remember two important things that you will need to be ready for when racing crits....1) Surges in pace - when attacks go, and also out of corners - they can sap your energy pretty quick if you're not used to them.....2) Bunch riding skills - hard to gain these apart from riding in a bunch.
Wilchemy
12-20-06, 03:18 PM
Never met a Szechuan banquet he didn't like....
mmm...Sichuan food is good...especially the genuine stuff over in Sichuan province itself. (You just don't ask too many questions about what sort of meat it is :eek: )
While you are continuing your "preparation" during the year, remember two important things that you will need to be ready for when racing crits....1) Surges in pace - when attacks go, and also out of corners - they can sap your energy pretty quick if you're not used to them.....2) Bunch riding skills - hard to gain these apart from riding in a bunch.
Don't drop back further than the 1st 1/3rd of riders.
It gets molto hard at the back due to the "concertina effect" out of corners and as blokes fatigue, they'll start dropping off the wheel and you'll waste more energy going around them.
If you work on your cornering, it will help you heaps....you can save a lot of energy by blasting through turns and the freewheeling gives you a bit of time to recover.
531Aussie
12-20-06, 06:50 PM
If you work on your cornering, it will help you heaps....you can save a lot of energy by blasting through turns and the freewheeling gives you a bit of time to recover.too right!! There's a slight downhill corner at the northern end of Sandown, through which, if there's a strong sou'easter, the speed is pretty hot and I lose about 5 bike lengths! :p I was so embarrassed one time that I made sure I was at the back. :)
do 70kg guys corner faster than 90kg guys?
do 70kg guys corner faster than 90kg guys?
Robbie is the best I've ever seen. Some of the last corners he's ridden at the Bay crits defy physics.
classic1
12-20-06, 07:50 PM
I've seen the Pom Roger Hammond race on a really tight circuit in Traralgon. Very impressive around the corners - took lengths every time he attacked. Mind you, hes a friggin dwarf- low centre of gravity :)
I've seen the Pom Roger Hammond race on a really tight circuit in Traralgon. Very impressive around the corners - took lengths every time he attacked. Mind you, hes a friggin dwarf- low centre of gravity :)
Best English-speaking 'crosser?
Thoughts?
classic1
12-20-06, 09:26 PM
Isn't that like being best brazilian leg spin bowler?
I don't mind the cross but don't know much about it. All my heroes were six-day riders when I was a kid.
me and a mate wanted to start a Vic cyclocross race series when we were teenagers in the 80s....talk about pushing sht uphill. Glad it never made it past idle banter...
I love six dayers...
Sercu
Doyle
Clark
Thurau
Allan
De Wilde
Tourne
Gunther
Veggerby
Frost
Freuler
all legends
classic1
12-20-06, 09:54 PM
I've been out training with Tony Doyle.
The old man know Doyle, Blackie and sunshine fairly well
I've been out training with Tony Doyle.
The old man know Doyle, Blackie and sunshine fairly well
I've got an anicent Winning at home witrh a feature in it about Doyley and Clark.
He looks brilliant on the fixed wheel....I'd envy the Team Eveready kit and his immaculate bike. I thought the little bunk they get to rest in at a race was the coolest thing ever. Full of exotic gear we never saw here and cycling acoutrements...
Crikey....I need to get out more.
classic1
12-20-06, 10:56 PM
lol. You're not the only veg. I think I have that Winning. Is it the one where there's a photo of Gary Wiggins and Tom Sawyer looking like death warmed up in their cabin?
lol. You're not the only veg. I think I have that Winning. Is it the one where there's a photo of Gary Wiggins and Tom Sawyer looking like death warmed up in their cabin?
Not sure....but there is a picture of Doyley during a warm-up spin with the caption
"Tony Doyle does his warm-up ride to the tunes of Tracey Chapman"
Ewwww.....
classic1
12-20-06, 11:02 PM
me and a mate wanted to start a Vic cyclocross race series when we were teenagers in the 80s....talk about pushing sht uphill. Glad it never made it past idle banter...
I love six dayers...
Sercu
Doyle
Clark
Thurau
Allan
De Wilde
Tourne
Gunther
Veggerby
Frost
Freuler
all legends
I meant to mention that I have a Maastricht six day program from the early 80's autographed by all the riders (Sercu, Pijnen, Thurau etc), plus teams pursuit great Udo Hempel and to top it off Peter Post!!:D
I meant to mention that I have a Maastricht six day program from the early 80's autographed by all the riders (Sercu, Pijnen, Thurau etc), plus teams pursuit great Udo Hempel and to top it off Peter Post!!:D
Crikey!!
all you need is for Hesslich and Hubner to be putting on a showcase sprint as well....
I do have a problem with losing and tend to get a little on the stroppy side if I get beaten :o
you'd better get used to it real quick.
classic1
12-20-06, 11:20 PM
Crikey!!
all you need is for Hesslich and Hubner to be putting on a showcase sprint as well....
Nah. For some reason the 6dayers always look the best on the bike. All smooth, fantastic positions on the bike. Plus in the 80's they nearly all rode with silver rims which looked the business under lights.
I've seen a video of Wiggins and Doyle winning Bremen. Sht it looked hard, but every rider looked class.
classic1
12-20-06, 11:21 PM
you'd better get used to it real quick.
lol.
62vette
12-21-06, 12:55 AM
I reckon you should just get into the racing now, learn the ropes quietly and keep up the secret training. Racing experience is invaluable, and it will improve your fitness faster than training alone will.
531Aussie
12-21-06, 01:05 AM
time for a ride. im out.I'm due for a hard day today but it's too hot for me so I'm just gunna roll along the beach for a perve! :p
crank'n
12-21-06, 01:23 AM
I'm due for a hard day today but it's too hot for me so I'm just gunna roll along the beach for a perve! :p wont be to hot arround christmas day, I here snow is on the way,Oh well, the crickets on boxng day or the Sydney to Hobart .Forcasting beach weather over here :)
531Aussie
12-21-06, 01:38 AM
Crankn lives!! Crikey! :)
Wilchemy
12-21-06, 02:47 AM
Sheeet, it seems like TAT part V is beginning to grow legs again! :eek:
Johnny_Monkey
12-21-06, 02:49 AM
wont be to hot arround christmas day, I here snow is on the way,Oh well, the crickets on boxng day or the Sydney to Hobart .Forcasting beach weather over here :)
Forecast is 36C for Perth on Xmas day isn't it? It's always bloody hot there on Xmas day.
Supposed to be 0C here on the 25th. Hopefully it will snow.
crank'n
12-21-06, 02:49 AM
aussie, winter has been over for a while, which means less compter time more riding time. The roadys going fine, new tyres, rear cassette and a seat this year, theres certinaly an increase in cyclist over this way.
Only one nasty to report,whilst riding the MTB allong a wide footpath, as on the the road was suiside on the MTB, a car flew out of a blind ally way, "bam" faaaarked the front wheel, with no body injuries, accually no words were exchaned i just walk off with a stuffed front wheel, no biggy, as 26 inch wheels are every where kerb side throw out time.The rim was worn out, oh did I mention the driver was female, but I wont hold that againts her.
Is father christmas lobbing a new bike down your chimney this christmas?
No new bike on the list this year this way, just be happy to do a beach ride and a swim for an optic,as their will be a lot of newbys outhere with their new toys.
Gotta see warnie play some cricket before he heads to England, for the county cricket season.Whoes going to be his 700th bowling victum?
All the best for christmas and new year.
crank'n
12-21-06, 02:53 AM
Forecast is 36C for Perth on Xmas day isn't it? It's always bloody hot there on Xmas day.
Supposed to be 0C here on the 25th. Hopefully it will snow.g'day jonny, yes the forcast has been revised 39 to 36:) may be 39 boxing day, going for a swim at city beach or trig, nice reef there.Gotta go, catch ya latter
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