Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - track hub for fixed MTB use

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mihlbach
07-17-06, 12:54 PM
I'm going to build up a fixed wheel for my Redline monocog, and my two best options are to use a respaced track hub or a bolt a modified cog onto a disk hub.
I was just curious if anyone here specifically has experience with using a trackhub for fixed gear MTB. Will the threads of the hub/cog/lockring easily strip out (even if properly installed) because of the lower gearing, or is this not really a concern.


genericbikedude
07-17-06, 12:56 PM
While I don't know much, I do know that Level hubs rock. 120 or 135, bolt on cogs with torx bolts, really strong axles. A bit heavy, but so what?

queerpunk
07-17-06, 01:02 PM
don't know if stripping is a concern, but chainline is, in terms of hub(chainline)/frame compatabililty. a track hub's 42mm chainline means that a chainring @ 42mm may hit the chainstays. hence the standard ss mtb 52mm chainline.


BritneySpears
07-17-06, 01:02 PM
A friend of mine has the OnOne Double Fixed Hub. It is spaced 135 mm. He rides hard and is quite satisfied with it. Plus you can run a freewheel on one side for longer downhills.
http://www.bmx-onlineshop.de/images/big/on_one_mtb-ssphub1.jpg

But I also know of people, who rock the Miche Primato Pista rear hub offroad with no problems at all (Respaced of course).
http://www.bmx-onlineshop.de/images/big/miche_hr_nabe.jpg

BritneySpears
07-17-06, 01:04 PM
don't know if stripping is a concern, but chainline is, in terms of hub(chainline)/frame compatabililty. a track hub's 42mm chainline means that a chainring @ 42mm will probably hit the chainstays. hence the standard ss mtb 52mm chainline.

The Primato Pista can be respaced assymmetrically, so the chainline fits Mtb-cranks.

mihlbach
07-17-06, 01:05 PM
don't know if stripping is a concern, but chainline is, in terms of hub(chainline)/frame compatabililty. a track hub's 42mm chainline means that a chainring @ 42mm may hit the chainstays. hence the standard ss mtb 52mm chainline.

My monocog has 110 mm spacing, so that may not really be a problem there.

Aeroplane
07-17-06, 01:07 PM
The Primato Pista can be respaced assymmetrically, so the chainline fits Mtb-cranks.
I think you could do that with any fixed-gear track hub, but on a MTB, you might end up with some funky dishing in order to get your chainline right.

Also, since it's a redline, it might have messed up spacing anyways... they only went to 135mm rear spacing this last year. 2005's and before had 110mm spacing, in which case a 120mm hub would work if you bend the stays a little (only do that if it is steel).

genericbikedude
07-17-06, 01:08 PM
My monocog has 110 mm spacing, so that may not really be a problem there.

in that case, you want a keirin hub, which will not be sealed. You could fix a BMX cassette hub with JBweld?

BritneySpears
07-17-06, 01:11 PM
I think you could do that with any fixed-gear track hub, but on a MTB, you might end up with some funky dishing in order to get your chainline right.


Actually, this is not the case (at least, as far as I know, my Miche wheelset is spaced for a 120 mm rear end, but I have seen it done).
The Primato Pista, in the normal track configuration, requires an assymmetrical dishing. If you respace it, the dishing will be closer to a symmetrical dishing.

mihlbach
07-17-06, 01:12 PM
in that case, you want a keirin hub, which will not be sealed. You could fix a BMX cassette hub with JBweld?

Actually, there are a couple of BMX disk hubs, which would do the job perfectly...but the ones I know of are absurdly expensive.

*new*guy
07-17-06, 01:19 PM
in that case, why not just spin a cog on there and keep your rear brake on the bike?

baxtefer
07-17-06, 01:32 PM
de-space virtually any 120mm hub down to 110.

the kogswell hub is based on a MTB hub, so that's worth a try. But those guant locknuts might make de-spacing a bit difficult.

fatbat
07-17-06, 01:33 PM
Actually, there are a couple of BMX disk hubs, which would do the job perfectly...but the ones I know of are absurdly expensive.

just respace a front disc mtb hub (cheap!) from 100 to 110, then bolt on a cog.

keep the front brake if you go off road.

bldzr
07-17-06, 01:49 PM
whoa whoa whoa!!

since when does a monocog have 110 rear spacing? every one I've ever encountered has had 135 mm rear spacing, which would require the appropriate size.

fixed gear mountain biking is a lot of fun, but be very mindful of your descents. Hell of easy to go over the bars when you can't coast. also, I would say to go with 170's for cranks. you don't want to cliip a pedal on a rock or something.

baxtefer
07-17-06, 02:16 PM
^ monocogs were all 110mm up until 2005 i believe.

simple312
07-17-06, 03:42 PM
if you have the $. phil wood has exactly what you are looking for.
site is being updated so the product pdfs are down.

onetwentyeight
07-17-06, 03:48 PM
check http://fixedgeargallery.com/reviews/hubreview/hugi/

prin
07-17-06, 04:18 PM
Also, since it's a redline, it might have messed up spacing anyways... they only went to 135mm rear spacing this last year. 2005's and before had 110mm spacing, in which case a 120mm hub would work if you bend the stays a little (only do that if it is steel).

i did this with my monocog and put in a promax hub. the chainline isn't perfect, but it's rideable.

lyledriver
07-17-06, 04:46 PM
I would just remove the big locknuts from any sealed 120mm hub, and replace them with smaller ones.

Aeroplane
07-17-06, 05:33 PM
^ monocogs were all 110mm up until 2005 i believe.
2006, actually. They were still 110mm until this year.