Mountain Biking - Which tubes should I get?

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mike09
08-09-06, 11:24 AM
Topeak seems like the popular brand so I'll go with them for the pump and multi-tool. Is that pronounced like 'top peak' or 'to peak'? As for the tubes, are the they pretty much the same from brand to brand as far as quality, there are so many different brands/types, can someone explain these different types.

- Schrader tube
- PV tube
- Long PV tube
- Self healing
- Ultralight (sounds pretty self explanatory but I'm sure more can be said)
- Thorn resistant (sounds pretty self explanatory but I'm sure more can be said)

Fyi - I have the 07 Rockhopper Comp Disc and it comes with Specialized 26x2.0 schraeder valve.

Thanks for the help!


Hank Rearden
08-09-06, 11:37 AM
No question, go with the best:

Yes Tubes (http://www.yestubes.com/)

cryptid01
08-09-06, 12:24 PM
+1 for Yes Tubes.


mike09
08-09-06, 02:08 PM
Ok, it's understood 'Yes Tubes' are great. But can you elaborate as to why? Also, can someone please answer my question about all the different types of tubes? Thanks!

MattP.
08-09-06, 02:17 PM
- Schrader tube
http://www.bikesmart.com/products/tube_gen_schrader.jpg
- PV tube
http://www.bikesmart.com/products/tube_gen_presta.jpg
- Long PV tube
http://www.bikesmart.com/products/TUBGEN_700cprestalong.jpg
- Self healing
http://www.midwayautosupply.com/images/slime/tube_3X.jpg
(has slime in it)
- Ultralight (sounds pretty self explanatory but I'm sure more can be said)
- Thorn resistant (sounds pretty self explanatory but I'm sure more can be said)
http://www.landroverpushchairs.co.uk/acatalog/thorn_resistant.jpg
(Generally 5 times thicker than normal tubes)


That help at all?

C Law
08-09-06, 02:25 PM
- Schrader tube!
A tube with a schrader valve.


- PV tube!
A tube with a presta valve


- Long PV tube!
A tube with a long or longer presta valve


- Self healing!
tubes filled with a goo and or goo type substance that will seal puncture holes.



- Ultralight (sounds pretty self explanatory but I'm sure more can be said)!
you would be wrong



- Thorn resistant (sounds pretty self explanatory but I'm sure more can be said)!

Wrong again

mx_599
08-09-06, 02:29 PM
No question, go with the best:

Yes Tubes (http://www.yestubes.com/)
what is different about these tubes?

Tweek
08-09-06, 02:32 PM
While are on the subject of tubes, which is better schrader or presta valve?

samster143
08-09-06, 02:45 PM
I have been riding/racing for many years and I have always used the regular: chen-shin/kenda/pyramid brand and I think they are about all the same..weigh like 200g or so. I am about to order some 'light-weight' Maxis brand ...weight 125g...This is a significant difference in rotating mass which will help things, however, I think the material MUST be thinner to get the lighter weight. so, I will see if they hold up the same.
All my wheels are drilled for a presta valve which has a smaller diameter than a schrader valve. So, a shrader valve tube will not fit in a presta drilled wheel but, a presta will fit into a shrader drilled rim...You dig?
Also, a presta valve needs a $1.0 adapter to use with a common bicycle pump. Many modern bike pumps can handle both but some do not.
oh, I think the presta hold air longer and are better for high-pressure.

cryptid01
08-09-06, 03:06 PM
Ok, it's understood 'Yes Tubes' are great. But can you elaborate as to why?

I don't know exactly. They look identical to other tubes to me.

Hank Rearden is really smart though, so I just went along with what he said.

Maybe you could drop yestubes an email.

Hank Rearden
08-09-06, 03:43 PM
what is different about these tubes?

They are Shore proven

Hank Rearden
08-09-06, 03:46 PM
Maybe you could drop yestubes an email.

Thanks for that. I forgot that I had an email setup on the site.

Once I filter the SPAM from the 2174 emails maybe I'll post some of the better emails...like the ones from bike shop owners asking about distribution info.

Peek the Geek
08-09-06, 03:53 PM
They are Shore proven
They Shore are.

Flak
08-09-06, 03:59 PM
Yes tubes will save you lots of wait.

Hank Rearden
08-09-06, 04:13 PM
"Your website is pretty weak. It does not explain your product very well. I am looking for something that will keep my mountain bike tandem going. I ride 100 pounds of pressure and deal with goat heads here in New Mexico. Will your product stop the flats? Is it available in a 451 size tube for my Bike Friday tandem?"

_________________________

"As a bike shop owner, I am not sold on tubed or tubeless systems. I think there has to be a better way.

I agree that tubeless has its good and bad side, but so does a tubed set-up.

My question to you is how come I see more people flatting with tubes than with tubeless systems. Where we are from, we wait on tubed riders to repair tubes more often than we do Stan's tubeless riders. I have gone to the Stan's No Tubes system, and I have yet to have any problems whatsoever. The last race I did with tubed tires, I pinch flatted. I have yet to ever flat with tubeless tires.

What's the real catch, and what's the real fix. Your website is a little vague. Your not really supporting a concept that is concrete. There has to be a real answer to solving the flatting issue on off-road bikes. Got an answer?"

_________________________

"Your web site does not tell me much.
Please give me some details on the tubes.
Specifically for 26 inch mountain bike.

What is the difference with your tubes.
Why so expensive.
How much do they weigh"

_________________________

"Please email me any info on becoming a dealer.
Thank you

Jarett Dierken
Buyer
BeyondBikes
12310 World Trade Dr
Suite 107
SanDiego CA 92128
858-673-8800"

(why am I not surprised that those ****** bags don't get it?)

_________________________

"Hello,

I am the product manager for J&B Importers. I recently discovered your Yes Tubes online and I am interested in possible distribution in the USA. We are the largest bicycle parts and accessories distributor in the USA with nine warehouses nationally and 45 sales reps on the road all over the country. I would like to start a discussion about becoming the distributor for Yes Tubes in the USA. Please let me know if there is any interest in having a National level US distributor. If there is interest we would like to get product information, pricing, etc. for review. We have a catalog that is published monthly and mailed to over 7000 dealers.

We would be able to provide the following things:
1. Ability to put your product in the hands of almost 7000 dealers with our outside sales force.
2. Continuous updating of product information in our monthly catalog mailed to all dealers.
3. Warehousing, shipping and inventory level control on a national level as well as great forecasting abilities.


Please let me know if this proposition interests you. It has worked well for some other companies, and it may work well for you.

Thank you,
Chris Dupuis"

_________________________

"You clearly have your head up your own ar$e!

Are you not aware of the successful world cup campaign that Cannondale
scored world cup victory with UST technology?

Why are all high-end Shimano wheelset now UST ready?

My advice to you is get a life and join the 21st century - or consider
buying a penny farthing!

Regards,

from one of the very happy UST users (in his 4th year of UST wheels and
tyres)."

_________________________

"Could you send some information on pricing and dealer info to

Broadway Bikes
C/O Josh Driskell"

_________________________

"Good day,



I’m not sure if I got the intention of the Yestubes website wrong but you give no indication of how the yestube tubes work. It seems as though they are just normal tubes but cost $50! The only info on the site is how bad Stan’s NoTubes are. I think for all the effort off creating a website you could at least have explained something about your product."

_________________________

"What does a single oliver’s tube weigh?

How large a tire will it fill?

I am using stans on my d321 with diesel ust for free ride"

_________________________


"Goodevening:

I was on the SORBA web-site and saw you all were getting some pretty good
"reviews"... Just wanted to touch base to let you know we are putting on a 12
/ 6 hr. mtb. race May 6th, 2006 at Fort Yargo State Park, Winder, Georgia. If
you are interested in joining us through product donation that would be
awesome... We will have 28 - 1st place finishers / 28 - 2nd place finishers /
28 - 3rd place finishers - if you feel you could cover one of those categories
or more let us know.

In return we would like to put your company "logo" with link on our site under
sponsors, company logo on our racer t-shirts and if you want to supply us with
a company banner for the start / finish area."

_________________________

"Hi, I found your website and it looks interesting ... but it doesn't explain what your tubes are. Or rather, how they're different from standard tubes. What exactly is the system? Do they minimize pinch flats as well as punctures? Gracias."

_________________________

Dannihilator
08-09-06, 04:17 PM
Another for yes tubes.

mx_599
08-09-06, 07:44 PM
what is different about these freaking tubes?? 50 dollars? whatever

hank owns this company??

free_pizza
08-09-06, 08:04 PM
hank owns this company??


looks like it...

http://www.yestubes.com/about.htm

Curtis_Elwood
08-09-06, 08:19 PM
Is it possible that this whole Yes Tubes thing is a joke?

DirtPedalerB
08-09-06, 08:19 PM
I run one of the maxxis flyweight tubes on the rear at the moment.. It's paper thin and real light, but I have never flatted. They are light to carry as a spare as well. I run 40 to 50 psi in it though. The tubes retail for like $10, but I found them on sale for less than half that. I'm happy with them. You could probably run a tube for a smaller width tire and have the same result though.

Don't know about the $50 tube, but the price tag makes me want one for some reason.

on a side note..
Now that I think about it I have never flatted the rear wheel it's always the front with a thorn or some other small object. Is there any logical reason my front tire flats more?

free_pizza
08-09-06, 08:40 PM
Is it possible that this whole Yes Tubes thing is a joke?
nope! :D

Hank Rearden
08-09-06, 09:49 PM
what is different about these freaking tubes?? 50 dollars? whatever

hank owns this company??

Not the sharpest pencil in the pocket protector, eh?

Jason222
08-09-06, 10:10 PM
I get it. Stan's No tubes. Olivers Yes tubes. It's a joke company.

Tweek
08-10-06, 12:21 AM
I figured it was a joke company within the first few seconds, something just wasn't right, but it is pretty hilarious.

Defiance
08-10-06, 12:31 AM
The way I see it, if there's a dancing man on you're website, It's a joke.

If it is by some reason real, I'm not buying it even if it is the next hottest thing since (I would type sliced bread here, but I have the urge to be controversial and DIFFERENT!) sex.

mx_599
08-10-06, 07:02 AM
Not the sharpest pencil in the pocket protector, eh?
:D

sleep deprivation my friend. it didn't occur to me someone would spend time making a fake website

Hank Rearden
08-10-06, 08:47 AM
if there's a dancing man on you're website,


That's not just any dancing man. That's Oliver Hardy, the well-known partner of Stan Laurel.

http://www.neu-bybarny.de/oli2.jpg

mcoine
08-10-06, 09:25 AM
:D

it didn't occur to me someone would spend time making a fake website


he's obviously got way too much free time.

Hank Rearden
08-10-06, 10:03 AM
it didn't occur to me someone would spend time making a fake website

Yeah, NOBODY makes parody websites.

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/
http://www.theonion.com/content/
http://www.whitehouse.org/
etc.

mcoine
08-10-06, 10:07 AM
what are you talking about.. the onion is my only news source.

cryptid01
08-10-06, 11:27 AM
The website may be a parody, but Yes tubes are REAL!

I'll let you guys know where to get them for much cheaper - just send me your name, SSN, and credit card number (for identity verification purposes).

scr1be
08-10-06, 11:45 AM
the onion is my number 1 news source as well.

Defiance
08-10-06, 04:25 PM
he's obviously got way too much free time.

The entire site is in HTML and the code is pretty straightforward, so it wouldn't take too long to make.

scr1be
08-10-06, 08:05 PM
i know right. that site would take about ... 30 minutes max to make?

i spend more time playing with myself.

Jason222
08-10-06, 09:34 PM
Having made websites, I think it would take more like 2 hours to make.

Defiance
08-10-06, 10:33 PM
Having made websites, I think it would take more like 2 hours to make.

From concept to completion maybe, but the code itself isn't very complex.

So have I. (www.frostbytedesigns.com)

scr1be
08-11-06, 07:51 AM
so have i. i graduated from a university as a comp sci major.

Peek the Geek
08-11-06, 08:23 AM
My neighbor has a springer spaniel.

Hank Rearden
08-11-06, 08:37 AM
ATTENTION WEB DESIGN SPECULATORS:

The answer to the question is that it was a two beer (normal-sized, not normally hopped) effort, almost three years ago.

And it continues to bear fruit to this day.

mcoine
08-11-06, 08:45 AM
so people actually pay you for these "yestubes"?

scr1be
08-11-06, 12:02 PM
obviously not. i'm pretty sure he'd get sued if he was really accepting money and sending out a regular tube. although that'd be pretty lucrative...