herbm
10-01-06, 05:17 PM
They may just be finishing. I wonder if it rained a little on them. It is raining over here.
Oh..I hope not....
Oh..I hope not....
Southern California - Oct 1: Tour de Poway
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10-01-06, 05:32 PM
No rain. Some fog up into Ramona, then sunny from there.
They may just be finishing. I wonder if it rained a little on them. It is raining over here.
They may just be finishing. I wonder if it rained a little on them. It is raining over here.
Brandy
10-01-06, 06:19 PM
Okay...I'm officially stalking Tiff...just left her a voicemail. :D
I even called Paul...she hasn't checked in with him yet either...but I told him that we're all eagerly awaiting an update!
I even called Paul...she hasn't checked in with him yet either...but I told him that we're all eagerly awaiting an update!
tprevost
10-01-06, 06:30 PM
Okay...I'm officially stalking Tiff... :D
Oooohhhh, I'm rubbing off on someone!!! hee hee hee!!!
Oooohhhh, I'm rubbing off on someone!!! hee hee hee!!!
roadfix
10-01-06, 06:40 PM
We'll be hearing about their post ride party as well...:D
Brandy
10-01-06, 06:46 PM
Oooohhhh, I'm rubbing off on someone!!! hee hee hee!!!
Hey now...stalking my friend is a whole different ballgame than stalking the TdF winner! :eek: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/BrandyMama/emoticons/0534.gif
Hey now...stalking my friend is a whole different ballgame than stalking the TdF winner! :eek: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/BrandyMama/emoticons/0534.gif
markg
10-01-06, 06:49 PM
Okay...I'm officially stalking Tiff...just left her a voicemail. :D
I even called Paul...she hasn't checked in with him yet either...but I told him that we're all eagerly awaiting an update!
I just got home (I made a last minute decision to do the full century). We had a lot of off bike time due to flats, aid stations, regrouping, etc. At one point we had ridden for 3 hrs and were off the bike for 2!! Tiff was doing fine when I last saw her about mile 80. Unfortunately I had to forge on ahead of the group because my back was starting to tighten up on me each time we stopped.
I even called Paul...she hasn't checked in with him yet either...but I told him that we're all eagerly awaiting an update!
I just got home (I made a last minute decision to do the full century). We had a lot of off bike time due to flats, aid stations, regrouping, etc. At one point we had ridden for 3 hrs and were off the bike for 2!! Tiff was doing fine when I last saw her about mile 80. Unfortunately I had to forge on ahead of the group because my back was starting to tighten up on me each time we stopped.
Brandy
10-01-06, 06:51 PM
I just got home (I made a last minute decision to do the full century). We had a lot of off bike time due to flats, aid stations, regrouping, etc. At one point we had ridden for 3 hrs and were off the bike for 2!! Tiff was doing fine when I last saw her about mile 80. Unfortunately I had to forge on ahead of the group because my back was starting to tighten up on me each time we stopped.
Thanks for the update Mark!
Thanks for the update Mark!
caligurl
10-01-06, 06:52 PM
At one point we had ridden for 3 hrs and were off the bike for 2!!
*GASP! 2 hours off the bike during a century!!?????
*GASP! 2 hours off the bike during a century!!?????
markg
10-01-06, 06:53 PM
BTW no rain during the ride at all. Just hills...lots of hills. And I wanted to murder the City of Poway traffic engineer by the end of the ride. I hit EVERY red light I could in the last 10 miles.
markg
10-01-06, 06:57 PM
*GASP! 2 hours off the bike during a century!!?????
Flats, either in the group, or helping others who had flats and didn't have tubes, didn't know how to use CO2, etc.
Flats, either in the group, or helping others who had flats and didn't have tubes, didn't know how to use CO2, etc.
Brandy
10-01-06, 06:59 PM
Flats, either in the group, or helping others who had flats and didn't have tubes, didn't know how to use CO2, etc.
That's why the BF crew is the bestest to ride with. They rock! I'd like a count of how many times Matt said the word "burrito" over the course of the century. :D
That's why the BF crew is the bestest to ride with. They rock! I'd like a count of how many times Matt said the word "burrito" over the course of the century. :D
roadfix
10-01-06, 07:01 PM
.....didn't know how to use CO2, etc.
I always tell people to go ahead a waste a few cartidges practicing inflating their tires at home....
I always tell people to go ahead a waste a few cartidges practicing inflating their tires at home....
caligurl
10-01-06, 07:05 PM
who had flats and didn't have tubes
yeow! you should ALWAYS carry at least one if not two spare tubes!
yeow! you should ALWAYS carry at least one if not two spare tubes!
caligurl
10-01-06, 07:06 PM
I always tell people to go ahead a waste a few cartidges practicing inflating their tires at home....
i can tell you from first hand experience that that is good advice! even though i had practiced at home.... the first time i had to change a flat out on my own (only carried one tube at that time).... i ruined the tube trying to inflate it and had to be rescued! now i carry at least 4 cartridges and 2 tubes! if i had more room.... i'd probably carry more :rolleyes:
i can tell you from first hand experience that that is good advice! even though i had practiced at home.... the first time i had to change a flat out on my own (only carried one tube at that time).... i ruined the tube trying to inflate it and had to be rescued! now i carry at least 4 cartridges and 2 tubes! if i had more room.... i'd probably carry more :rolleyes:
markg
10-01-06, 07:12 PM
yeow! you should ALWAYS carry at least one if not two spare tubes!
It wasn't anyone in our group!!. But you just shake your head when you are maybe 15 miles into a ride, and when you ask someone if they need help, and they say "I need a tube!". What are these people thinking?
It wasn't anyone in our group!!. But you just shake your head when you are maybe 15 miles into a ride, and when you ask someone if they need help, and they say "I need a tube!". What are these people thinking?
caligurl
10-01-06, 07:13 PM
What are these people thinking?
http://www.smileycons.com/img/emotions/110.gif
http://www.smileycons.com/img/emotions/110.gif
markg
10-01-06, 07:13 PM
That's why the BF crew is the bestest to ride with. They rock! I'd like a count of how many times Matt said the word "burrito" over the course of the century. :D
Matt was threatening to go search for burritos, and Melissa was craving a big, cold diet coke...
Matt was threatening to go search for burritos, and Melissa was craving a big, cold diet coke...
caligurl
10-01-06, 07:14 PM
speaking of burritos.... hubby had the "dos manos" at baha fresh yesterday.... you really DO need dos manos to eat it! i'm thinking it may rival mr serious??????????????????????????
Brandy
10-01-06, 07:27 PM
I have no patience. Sending Tiffanie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *call me now* vibes ~~~~~~~~~~~~
tprevost
10-01-06, 07:27 PM
Hey now...stalking my friend is a whole different ballgame than stalking the TdF winner! :eek: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/BrandyMama/emoticons/0534.gif
Who did that???? :rolleyes:
Who did that???? :rolleyes:
Brandy
10-01-06, 07:27 PM
Who did that???? :rolleyes:
Just some girl I know. She's bad...very bad.
Just some girl I know. She's bad...very bad.
caligurl
10-01-06, 07:28 PM
Just some girl I know. She's bad...very bad.
http://www.smileycons.com/img/emotions/113.gif
http://www.smileycons.com/img/emotions/113.gif
tprevost
10-01-06, 07:31 PM
Just some girl I know. She's bad...very bad.
... can't imagine who that really bad gurl is though... can you???
... can't imagine who that really bad gurl is though... can you???
markg
10-01-06, 07:31 PM
Click here (http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/invitation/email/accept.mb?senderPk.pkValue=2829&unitSystemPkValue=2&episodePk.pkValue=1451212) to see my MotionBased GPS track for this ride.
herbm
10-01-06, 07:32 PM
i can tell you from first hand experience that that is good advice! even though i had practiced at home.... the first time i had to change a flat out on my own (only carried one tube at that time).... i ruined the tube trying to inflate it and had to be rescued! now i carry at least 4 cartridges and 2 tubes! if i had more room.... i'd probably carry more :rolleyes:
And I carry a patch kit!! And a $1 bill or powerbar wrapper for that ocasional sidewall cut...I once got 50 miles with a $1 bill in my tire!!
And be careful using Co2 in the rain!
And I carry a patch kit!! And a $1 bill or powerbar wrapper for that ocasional sidewall cut...I once got 50 miles with a $1 bill in my tire!!
And be careful using Co2 in the rain!
Brandy
10-01-06, 07:34 PM
Click here (http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/invitation/email/accept.mb?senderPk.pkValue=2829&unitSystemPkValue=2&episodePk.pkValue=1451212) to see my MotionBased GPS track for this ride.
Was the elevation really 8600+??????
Was the elevation really 8600+??????
caligurl
10-01-06, 07:39 PM
And I carry a patch kit!! And a $1 bill or powerbar wrapper for that ocasional sidewall cut...I once got 50 miles with a $1 bill in my tire!!
And be careful using Co2 in the rain!
i have a patch kit and piece of cardboard for a "boot" (but i always have a few dollars with me... so that would work, too!)
And be careful using Co2 in the rain!
i have a patch kit and piece of cardboard for a "boot" (but i always have a few dollars with me... so that would work, too!)
tprevost
10-01-06, 07:59 PM
Brandy,
Have you tried Jason on his cell phone?
Have you tried Jason on his cell phone?
Brandy
10-01-06, 08:07 PM
Brandy,
Have you tried Jason on his cell phone?
No...I had to give my cell to James when he dropped his Razr and broke it the other day. All of the BF numbers are in it. :(
Have you tried Jason on his cell phone?
No...I had to give my cell to James when he dropped his Razr and broke it the other day. All of the BF numbers are in it. :(
tprevost
10-01-06, 08:09 PM
No...I had to give my cell to James when he dropped his Razr and broke it the other day. All of the BF numbers are in it. :(
I'll PM it to ya...
I'll PM it to ya...
markw
10-01-06, 08:54 PM
Ok, here's a ride report. Arrived early and got parking across the street in the paved lot from where the BF people were meeting. Kept on eye on the lot, no one showed, couple people dropping off, it got to be about 10 til, so I made sure I had everything and rolled over to the start line. They gave some advice about some corner and descent on highland valley, and started us.
As I was rolling out, I checked the parking lot one last time, and 3-4 people were there including jschen. I yelled and waved. Figuring they'd roll soon and catch me on the first climb. Didn't happen.
The first climb seemed to take awhile, I have a powertap now, so I just guaged my effort and held it to 200-250 watts for the duration. When your 210lbs and have about 30lbs of bike with water spares, etc, that equates to about 6-7mph. Not bad, but I only passed like 2 people on the climb and most were rolling by me slowly. After the climb we got to gather at the top of the hill and wait for escort on the 67. The descent/climb into Ramona was fun, hit 47 somewhere on it, and was cruising right along. Skipped the first rest stop as I had plenty of water on me, and my malto bottle was full. Highland Valley road wasn't bad, the only problem was descending with people that thought they were fast descenders and would stay out to the left. One guy almost got an elbow at 35. :) Please, on rides like this, unless you're passing, stay to the right.
I stopped at the second rest area for a minute or so to refill the malto bottle. Then headed into Escondido, more climbing, and almost missed the Citrus turn off. Had a minor incident on Citrus when a car came within 6" as he buzzed me. Caught him at the light and exchanged a few words, I wanted to rip him out of his car and smack him around a bit, but restrained myself to cursing him out. He tailed the group for awhile taking pictures and eventually drove off.
The coast went by fast, 25+ through that part. The next real climbing was on El Norte and then on El Camino Real, of course there were 3-4 miles of headwinds on San Dugito, no wonder I can usually blast that road at 25+, I was struggling to maintain 18-19 there. At the last rest stop around 85 miles or so, I was at 5 hours ride time, figuring hey, just one more hour to go. NOT.... It was uphill from there into Poway. Once in Poway, I was cruising down Pomerado hitting all the _GREENS_ with a tailwind, 200 watts had me doing 28-30, did the turn around, smiled for the camera, came back up community into the wind where the same 200w had me running 21-22. Here's the output from the powertap, this thing is too cool.
863 max watts
190 average watts
47.6 max speed
16.3 average speed
136 average HR
87 average cadence
ride time: 6:33
Climbing according to routeslip 6518.
I hung around for a bit, collected the T-shirt, then called Jschen, they were around mile 80, so I didn't stick around much longer.
As I was rolling out, I checked the parking lot one last time, and 3-4 people were there including jschen. I yelled and waved. Figuring they'd roll soon and catch me on the first climb. Didn't happen.
The first climb seemed to take awhile, I have a powertap now, so I just guaged my effort and held it to 200-250 watts for the duration. When your 210lbs and have about 30lbs of bike with water spares, etc, that equates to about 6-7mph. Not bad, but I only passed like 2 people on the climb and most were rolling by me slowly. After the climb we got to gather at the top of the hill and wait for escort on the 67. The descent/climb into Ramona was fun, hit 47 somewhere on it, and was cruising right along. Skipped the first rest stop as I had plenty of water on me, and my malto bottle was full. Highland Valley road wasn't bad, the only problem was descending with people that thought they were fast descenders and would stay out to the left. One guy almost got an elbow at 35. :) Please, on rides like this, unless you're passing, stay to the right.
I stopped at the second rest area for a minute or so to refill the malto bottle. Then headed into Escondido, more climbing, and almost missed the Citrus turn off. Had a minor incident on Citrus when a car came within 6" as he buzzed me. Caught him at the light and exchanged a few words, I wanted to rip him out of his car and smack him around a bit, but restrained myself to cursing him out. He tailed the group for awhile taking pictures and eventually drove off.
The coast went by fast, 25+ through that part. The next real climbing was on El Norte and then on El Camino Real, of course there were 3-4 miles of headwinds on San Dugito, no wonder I can usually blast that road at 25+, I was struggling to maintain 18-19 there. At the last rest stop around 85 miles or so, I was at 5 hours ride time, figuring hey, just one more hour to go. NOT.... It was uphill from there into Poway. Once in Poway, I was cruising down Pomerado hitting all the _GREENS_ with a tailwind, 200 watts had me doing 28-30, did the turn around, smiled for the camera, came back up community into the wind where the same 200w had me running 21-22. Here's the output from the powertap, this thing is too cool.
863 max watts
190 average watts
47.6 max speed
16.3 average speed
136 average HR
87 average cadence
ride time: 6:33
Climbing according to routeslip 6518.
I hung around for a bit, collected the T-shirt, then called Jschen, they were around mile 80, so I didn't stick around much longer.
merider1
10-01-06, 08:59 PM
Ok, here's a ride report. .
Thanks, Mark Wow -That ride sounded tough! And I still don't know how your bike works exactly. I would think it would be way tougher on a climb. :)
Thanks, Mark Wow -That ride sounded tough! And I still don't know how your bike works exactly. I would think it would be way tougher on a climb. :)
Brandy
10-01-06, 09:01 PM
They're fine...I was worried when I hadn't heard from Tiff...but they're all at Olive Garden!
tprevost
10-01-06, 09:04 PM
They're fine...I was worried when I hadn't heard from Tiff...but they're all at Olive Garden!
AND, you probably won't be hearing from Tiff for a day or two after Brandy gets ahold of her!!! :mad:
... okay, just kiddin' but we were getting worried!
AND, you probably won't be hearing from Tiff for a day or two after Brandy gets ahold of her!!! :mad:
... okay, just kiddin' but we were getting worried!
markw
10-01-06, 09:06 PM
Not really. Climbing boils down to power to weight. I could put out 200-250w all day, but on some hills that would have me doing 10, others it has me doing 6. The _ONLY_ thing I can't do is stand and hammer. Of course, if you tried standing every hill, you'd wear out on an upright. The biggest advantage of the recumbent is superior aerodynamics, 200 watts had me moving at 23+, where it'd take 300-350 on a regular bike. I'm 210 lbs, so I climb slow on a regular bike also, and if I climbed fast at my weight, I'd have to push 500 watts. I did that a few times on short rollers to keep from getting dropped, or on highland valley to stay ahead of a guy that was a pain to pass going over a roller, where I hit 863. A pro like Lance or Floyd can put out 350-400 all day, I'm going to be happy with my 250, and work on bringing it up to 300.
Brandy
10-01-06, 09:07 PM
AND, you probably won't be hearing from Tiff for a day or two after Brandy gets ahold of her!!! :mad:
... okay, just kiddin' but we were getting worried!
Hey...you were the one that emailed me and told me to "beat her" when I see her. :p
Tracy, I think that the two of us get to share the "worried mom" award today. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/BrandyMama/drama.gif
... okay, just kiddin' but we were getting worried!
Hey...you were the one that emailed me and told me to "beat her" when I see her. :p
Tracy, I think that the two of us get to share the "worried mom" award today. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/BrandyMama/drama.gif
markw
10-01-06, 09:07 PM
They're fine...I was worried when I hadn't heard from Tiff...but they're all at Olive Garden!
Heh, guess I should've waited that 2 hours or so. :)
Heh, guess I should've waited that 2 hours or so. :)
herbm
10-01-06, 09:17 PM
Great write up ....
sounds like a good but tough ride!
sounds like a good but tough ride!
tprevost
10-01-06, 09:17 PM
Hey...you were the one that emailed me and told me to "beat her" when I see her. :p
Tracy, I think that the two of us get to share the "worried mom" award today. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/BrandyMama/drama.gif
well okay... I guess I'll share it...
I was telling DH why I was in here glued to the computer and he said he'd go psycho if he hadn't heard from me! SO THERE!
T~
ps.... just so everyone knows... I meant to say B should beat her w/one of those blow up bats! ;) ... but then I got in a hurry and left that part out! :p
Tracy, I think that the two of us get to share the "worried mom" award today. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/BrandyMama/drama.gif
well okay... I guess I'll share it...
I was telling DH why I was in here glued to the computer and he said he'd go psycho if he hadn't heard from me! SO THERE!
T~
ps.... just so everyone knows... I meant to say B should beat her w/one of those blow up bats! ;) ... but then I got in a hurry and left that part out! :p
Kar3368
10-01-06, 09:23 PM
Great ride report Mark! Wow! That does sound like a tough ride! lots of climbing.
A BIG kudos to Tiff for doing this one as her FIRST!!!
A BIG kudos to Tiff for doing this one as her FIRST!!!
tprevost
10-01-06, 09:25 PM
A BIG kudos to Tiff for doing this one as her FIRST!!!
... not that we would know anything about it :mad:
... not that we would know anything about it :mad:
markg
10-01-06, 09:25 PM
Was the elevation really 8600+??????
I can't really say how accurate that number is. Normal GPS readings for altitude aren't that accurate. MotionBased says their number is more accurate because they cross-reference the waypoints against a database of surveyed altitudes. But the most accurate is a GPS with barometric compensation, like the newer Garmin's. I think blue_nose had one of those, and it woule be interesting to see what his says.
That out of the way, this ride had tons of rolling ups and downs. Plus headwinds. And rolling hills AND headwinds (Palomar Airport Road by the time we got there).
I can't really say how accurate that number is. Normal GPS readings for altitude aren't that accurate. MotionBased says their number is more accurate because they cross-reference the waypoints against a database of surveyed altitudes. But the most accurate is a GPS with barometric compensation, like the newer Garmin's. I think blue_nose had one of those, and it woule be interesting to see what his says.
That out of the way, this ride had tons of rolling ups and downs. Plus headwinds. And rolling hills AND headwinds (Palomar Airport Road by the time we got there).
Nachoman
10-01-06, 09:26 PM
I was there too. Great day for a bike ride. Started off a bit cool but immediately warmed up about half way up the first grade. I spent the entire time chasing a couple friends who were training for a double century. You wouldn't recognize me because I looked like every other guy there on a litespeed, but if you saw a guy about 6 feet 6 inches on a red size 74 frame, well I was the slow, tired, out-of-breath guy behind him. :p
tprevost
10-01-06, 09:27 PM
Tracy, I think that the two of us get to share the "worried mom" award today. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/BrandyMama/drama.gif
Well, at least ya'll will know that Brandy and I are paying attention as to whether or not you return from your rides ;)
Well, at least ya'll will know that Brandy and I are paying attention as to whether or not you return from your rides ;)
markg
10-01-06, 09:29 PM
Hey...you were the one that emailed me and told me to "beat her" when I see her. :p
Tracy, I think that the two of us get to share the "worried mom" award today. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/BrandyMama/drama.gif
And all your two worry energies I think caused bikeforums to blow a fuse thre for a bit :-)
Tracy, I think that the two of us get to share the "worried mom" award today. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/BrandyMama/drama.gif
And all your two worry energies I think caused bikeforums to blow a fuse thre for a bit :-)
merider1
10-01-06, 09:29 PM
Trac and Brandy, you two are cracking me up. I'm so glad I'm not Tiff right now. Not only is she tired with a sore butt, but she's going to get beaten with a, what was it? - blow-up bat? Plastic bat? :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :fight:
merider1
10-01-06, 09:30 PM
And all your two worry energies I think caused bikeforums to blow a fuse thre for a bit :-)
Yeah! It was you two, wasn't it! :mad: You made me want to crush my laptop! :crash: ;)
Yeah! It was you two, wasn't it! :mad: You made me want to crush my laptop! :crash: ;)
markw
10-01-06, 09:41 PM
That was nothing. Just heard there's a new S-N crossing record for Kansas.
http://bacchettabikes.com/forum2/tm.asp?m=14084
http://bacchettabikes.com/forum2/tm.asp?m=14084
Brandy
10-01-06, 09:46 PM
Trac and Brandy, you two are cracking me up. I'm so glad I'm not Tiff right now. Not only is she tired with a sore butt, but she's going to get beaten with a, what was it? - blow-up bat? Plastic bat? :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :fight:
For the record...I did not threaten any physical harm to my friend...I was just a tad worried when it got dark and I hadn't heard from her. :o It was all Tracy! Oh...and there's no way she meant to leave off the blow-up bat part...she's got criminal tendencies, you know. :p :D
For the record...I did not threaten any physical harm to my friend...I was just a tad worried when it got dark and I hadn't heard from her. :o It was all Tracy! Oh...and there's no way she meant to leave off the blow-up bat part...she's got criminal tendencies, you know. :p :D