Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Lockring question

Today i got a lockring off a cassette, really its just the cover for the freewheel bearings, but its threaded and is like a lockring. But since im making my fixie with a suicide hub,and this lockring is reverse threaded onto a suicide hub, so if i spin it backwards it tightens. Now if i put my cog on, and then that lockring, i wouldnt need loctite or anything correct? But if i do use loctite can i just use blue loctite? Even tho if i do pedal backwards the lockring will just tighten.



Thanks in Advance

... nah... ill let one of the other *******s do it.

... nah... ill let one of the other *******s do it.huh?

huh?


It means he doenst have a clue and will let someone else answer. :D

It means he doenst have a clue and will let someone else answer. :D
oh...ok
lol
im slow on that

he means let the other pros on the forum explain it
sounds like a good idea but i wouldn't know, im a noob also

no... what i meant was im going to let someone else give you **** about this

Wouldnt it just be easier to answer the guy's question than give him ****? Unless you just like giving people **** i mean.

Seriously this is my first fixie and if your going to be a dick then dont even answer ok?

use a brake, wear a helmet and ride on the sidewalk.

Logically this does not seem to make sense. If your hub has threads that all go the same way, then wouldn't this lockring just thread in the same direction as the cog? I would think so. With them threaded in the same direction then what you have just sounds like a regular suicided hub with a bottom bracket lockring. I would use the loctite.

use a brake, wear a helmet and ride on the sidewalk.no sidewalks, have a brake, but WILL SOMEONE ANSWER MY QUESTION? will that lockring work without loctite?



FYI i know how to ride a fixie my friend has one.

Please explain how you can reverse thread a lockring on a suicide hub.

my dad can beat up your dad

my dad can beat up your dad


Funny how youve eluded to knowing the answer and have wasted enough energy to post FOUR times and still wont answer his questions. I just dont know why people like you even come on here. ??

ok....do you guys know on a freewheel there is like a ring that has two little round indentions it for a tool right? know to take that off you have to spin it forward, the one i took off a freewheel mounted directly onto the hub without even touching the freewheel, so the threads on it are reversed, because if you try to put it back you have to spin it backwards. It goes directly onto the hub, not all of them do it. Now i want to use this instead of a lockring because its the same thickness so im guessing its strong enough. Because the threads on the wheel i took it off are regular on the hub, but that lockring for the freewheel has reversed threads so it spins on backwards to tighten. So my i want to know can i u seit? since i f i pedal backwards, it tighens cause its reversed, that is if the cog trys to move.

my dad can beat up your dadand my dad can stick a 40 up ur dads ass, so whats the point?

Since I responded before, I will respond again. This time what you say, in theory, seems like it should work, but it can't hurt throw on some loctite just in case.

One question, if this works why wouldn't more people use these lockrings when setting up suicide hubs?

Since I responded before, I will respond again. This time what you say, in theory, seems like it should work, but it can't hurt throw on some loctite just in case.

One question, if this works why wouldn't more people use these lockrings when setting up suicide hubs?maybe because more people have other ways of doing it and have money to where i dont. But should blue loctite work? Thanks for actually helping me unlike some people.

I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but if people run suicide hubs with cogs and lockrings that are threaded in the same direction using blue loctite and a brake as a safety, I see no reason why you could not do the same especially given that, as you stated, your lockring threads on the other way.

And no problem. I have a lot yet to learn, but much of what I know has come from people who answer questions on here.

I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but if people run suicide hubs with cogs and lockrings that are threaded in the same direction using blue loctite and a brake as a safety, I see no reason why you could not do the same especially given that, as you stated, your lockring threads on the other way.
alright thanks for the input, because i heard some people use red loctite so i wasnt sure to use blue or red. But thanks

Well the red is the safer route, but if your lockring truly threads the other way as you say, then I think blue should be ok. You do plan to run a brake though right?

Well the red is the safer route, but if your lockring truly threads the other way as you say, then I think blue should be ok. You do plan to run a brake though right?yes i have a front brake, considering New Orleans drivers, you might want to run brakes:rolleyes:

Okay. Maybe I am stupid. But how the hell can you spin something that is REVERSE THREADED onto something that is NOT REVERSE THREADED? Unless I am missing something, that's logically impossible.

That is possible.

Okay. Maybe I am stupid. But how the hell can you spin something that is REVERSE THREADED onto something that is NOT REVERSE THREADED? Unless I am missing something, that's logically impossible.im not sure how it's possible, but its true. Because im 100% positive that the lockring peice i too koff came off the hub when i was spinning it the way you would normally tighten something, meaning clockwise.

was the hub you took it off reverse threaded? that's my guess.

was the hub you took it off reverse threaded? that's my guess.no it wasnt because when i took the cassette off like the inner part of the freewheel i spun it counter clock-wise with a plumber wrench.

You cannot put a reverse threaded lockring on a suicide hub without cross-threading and lots of anguish. The two were not meant to be together.

Okay i'm not sure what kind of lockring you are talking about, but it will not thread onto the hub.

Normal hubs have forward threading, so only something that is forward threaded will work.

The cog is forward threaded, so put that on with loctite (Blue is fine, you have a brake, you could even do it with no loctite). I'd recommend using the rotafix method [ http://204.73.203.34/fisso/eng/schpignone.htm ].
Now if you have extra threads available, throw a BB lockring (english, and these are also forward threaded so they work on the hub) on there, it adds a bit of extra security.

Have fun. If things go wrong, you'll try to stop by resisting the pedals and you'll feel the cog start to unscrew, and you'll use your brake and everything will be okay.

it's not a lockring guys, its just the same size as lockring, its like a cover for the freewheel bearings

It still won't fit if it's reverse threaded.

dude if it is a cassette hub and a cassette lockring yes if it is a freewheel hub then no use a bb lockring and loctite or rotofix if it is a cassette hub and a cassete lockring ditch em bothe get a surly fixxer and do it right

if it is scavanged parts from a freewheel no it wont just get a bb lockring and do it right already

Dude stop wrenching on your bike. This is a mother****ing mess. IF that lockring is reverse-threaded, then it will never-ever thread properly onto a right-hand thread. Full stop. Never.

If you have a freewheel hub with right-hand threads all the way, then you might have cross-threaded your hub, in which case the lockring will not hold. It will strip off the first time it is faced with the force of
the cog trying to come off. The cog will succeed, and the hub will be pretty much killed.

Other scenario: the lockring is a couple of sizes bigger than the hub threads, so it's sort of sitting on top of the threads. It will come off even easier, but at least the hub will be less damaged.

Solution: Put the lockring back on a cassette hub. Rotafix the cog (google), use loctite if you feel like it. Spin on a BB lockring (google), add loctite if you feel like it.

If possible you should post a picture of the hub and the lockring. Either you've got a very unique set of parts or you don't quite understand the difference between a freewheel hub and a cassette hub and you have the latter, in which case it can't be used for a fixed gear.