Northeast - Where are the MD people's

Think we should start another thread about this ride and try to get some BF people together? Also, I plan on doing the Covered Bridges ride again...that was a blast last year. This year I ride with the group and the FIL is on his own.

We could. I don't mind keeping it low key as well. I have another person or 2 not on BF probably going. I do want to get an early start.

I am on the fence with Covered Bridges. It was awesome riding with such a big BF group. But honestly I thought the ride kinda sucked overall. Maybe because it was so hot and the fact that the best rest stop wasn't even part of the ride.

Getting lost and having to make up a 15 min deficit at the beginning to catch you guys too kinda wasn't fun.

-D

Ok here is another Baltimore route puzzler. I have a friend who started riding this past year. He just bought himself a new bike and wants to start riding to work. He lives just south of BWI, about a mile due south of the BWI trail loop on WB&A. He works at Constellation Energy. Which is basically the corner of Pratt and President St.

He really wants to try doing it, but has concerns about riding through some "bad" neighborhoods. He mentioned Cherry Hill. I don't know anything about the neighborhoods so I haven't been able to figure out a route that he would feel comfortable riding.

-D

He should be able to connect up with this route: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Balto-Annapolis (if he has any difficulties let me know.) Depending on the sensitivity to bad neighborhoods there are 0, 0.8 or 1.5 miles worth of not really that bad of bad neighborhoods on the route.

I have been wanting to post all weekend since Saturday. but one thing or the other has kept me from it. I did the Fenwick / Bethany Ocean to Bay ride on Saturday and had a great time. It was a nice flat ride with nice scenary along the way. I only missed two turns on the que sheet but did good otherwise. I wound up doing a little over 50 miles in 3.5 hours witb two breaks in there.

I'll post a ride link later

http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/invitation/email/accept.mb?senderPk.pkValue=109527&unitSystemPkValue=2&episodePk.pkValue=2555845http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/invitation/email/accept.mb?senderPk.pkValue=109527&unitSystemPkValue=2&episodePk.pkValue=2555845

Hey Don; I did this ride too! 51.6ish miles in 3:18 with 3 very short breaks. I missed a turn which added on the extra mileage (they need to do a little bit better job on the cue sheet for next year IMO). The one turn that I think quite a few people missed was not marked clearly at all.

- Kelly :D

Ok here is another Baltimore route puzzler. I have a friend who started riding this past year. He just bought himself a new bike and wants to start riding to work. He lives just south of BWI, about a mile due south of the BWI trail loop on WB&A. He works at Constellation Energy. Which is basically the corner of Pratt and President St.

He really wants to try doing it, but has concerns about riding through some "bad" neighborhoods. He mentioned Cherry Hill. I don't know anything about the neighborhoods so I haven't been able to figure out a route that he would feel comfortable riding.

-D

I would recommend that he test potential routes on an early Saturday morning to get a feel for them. Human car is right, there really is not too much to worry about. The worst thing in my opinion is the horrid condition of the road surface on all neighborhoods adjacent to patapsco ave.

My preference is to take the Gywns falls trail past the Greyhound station, then get on Annapolis rd at the power station along Russell. Take that to Waterview, go right, then immediate left to remain on Annapolis. Take it across patapsco ave and all the way to Nursery, right on Nursery then left on Hammonds Ferry which will take you to Andover and the BWI trail.

Angelo, I keep meaning to try your route but I always seem to forget it when I am out there. So what I ended up trying coming home was Camp Meade Rd (170) Baltimore Annapolis Blvd (648.) Which scores points on being direct but I am still undecided which route may offer the better comfort factor, that certainly wasn’t bad but most of the traffic was going the opposite way so the experience may be different if you’re riding with the majority of traffic.

Its been a while since I have posted anything on this site, but I have made the leap and am in the process of building a singlespeed road bike. I just needed something other than my full suspension mountain bike to cruise around town on, and not feel so paranoid when I have it locked up outside. Whats next....spandex? :)

Hope y'all can ride on "bike to work day" tomorrow. I hope to ride all the way (27 miles each way) and forgo the train. we'll see how I feel at 6:00am. Rode almost 35 today(commute & rec). I'm not going to any of the meeting spots as none meet between the 2 cities. Anybody else riding to the meeting spots? Riding to work? Be safe Charlie
PS I haven't been posting much as work has been really busy and we have a new group running our server at work.

Its been a while since I have posted anything on this site, but I have made the leap and am in the process of building a singlespeed road bike. I just needed something other than my full suspension mountain bike to cruise around town on, and not feel so paranoid when I have it locked up outside. Whats next....spandex? :)

I've been toying w/ the same idea. I live in Catonsville and figure I can't use it around my hood. Too many hills and my knees are too old. I was going to use it for rail trails. It would be good for Balto city tho'. Is that where you live?

Hope y'all can ride on "bike to work day" tomorrow.

I’m heading down to City Hall in Baltimore with my 12 year old daughter. I’m riding 10 miles in and my Daughter is aiming to do 7 miles (she did 5 miles last year.) Here is a pic from last year of us in route:
http://www.baltometro.org/images/stories/bike_to_work_06/2006-09.htm

The guy in the suit is Al Fox Director of Transportation, next me and then my daughter.


And in case you are wondering how me and my daughter bike together and end up with different mileage on pg 5 of http://www.baltimorecity.gov/government/planning/images/BikeMeeting_2_2006.pdf

Shows our other mode.

BTW Eva Khoury our new bike/ped coordinator will be there if have not had the chance to met her, stop and say hi.

Derath, you still alive or did you expire on your epic wedding ride? Tell us!!!!

Hope y'all can ride on "bike to work day" tomorrow. I hope to ride all the way (27 miles each way) and forgo the train. we'll see how I feel at 6:00am. Rode almost 35 today(commute & rec). I'm not going to any of the meeting spots as none meet between the 2 cities. Anybody else riding to the meeting spots? Riding to work? Be safe Charlie
PS I haven't been posting much as work has been really busy and we have a new group running our server at work.

Since I started racing, I've had to work back up to including commuting with race training. This past week was the first week of both, except that Wednesday's Greenbelt race got rained out.

Anyway, I went to the Towson Courthouse for Bike2Work. It was a little chilly from the winds out of the northeast once one cooled down from the trip. They had free bananas, bagles, and coffee, as well as the t-shirts, bags, and ankle/wrist reflectors for those who registered.

Derath, you still alive or did you expire on your epic wedding ride? Tell us!!!!

Ah Man! I was hoping the lack of ride report would go unnoticed.

The short answer, I wussed out.

The longer answer. I have been burning the candle at both ends lately. Between a very heavy workload (I lost a consultant 6 weeks ago, anyone wanna job?) and a daughter giving me fits about sleeping at night I got to my parents extremely exhausted. I packed everything planning on riding. But by 2pm I was just spent. Mentally I really wanted to ride, but physically I was a mess. I was shaky like too much caffeine but due to fatigue. I decided that instead of riding home I would drive.

So I stopped at the Thai take out, and had dinner and a real conversation with my wife. Then watched a little TV with her and went to bed by 8:30pm. I am still kicking myself for not riding, but I know it was the right choice.

I will have plenty more opportunities to do the ride since I am taking the kids down every friday through the summer.

-D

I’m heading down to City Hall in Baltimore with my 12 year old daughter. I’m riding 10 miles in and my Daughter is aiming to do 7 miles (she did 5 miles last year.) Here is a pic from last year of us in route:
http://www.baltometro.org/images/stories/bike_to_work_06/2006-09.htm

The guy in the suit is Al Fox Director of Transportation, next me and then my daughter.


And in case you are wondering how me and my daughter bike together and end up with different mileage on pg 5 of http://www.baltimorecity.gov/government/planning/images/BikeMeeting_2_2006.pdf

Shows our other mode.

BTW Eva Khoury our new bike/ped coordinator will be there if have not had the chance to met her, stop and say hi.


What do you do w/ your daughter once you get to work? I can never go downtown on BTWD since I have to head towards DC. If I ever buy a folder I will go downtown, then hop on the train. I want to meet that lady Eva. Give me advanced warning on the next bike meeting, I've got lots to ask her.

Since I started racing, I've had to work back up to including commuting with race training. This past week was the first week of both, except that Wednesday's Greenbelt race got rained out.

Anyway, I went to the Towson Courthouse for Bike2Work. It was a little chilly from the winds out of the northeast once one cooled down from the trip. They had free bananas, bagles, and coffee, as well as the t-shirts, bags, and ankle/wrist reflectors for those who registered.

I try not to go fast since I commute everyday. When I ride hard I pay for it on the next day. Yesterday I rode hard and today I woke up with a stiff knee and dead legs. Because of this I did not ride all the way to work but did my bike-train-bike commute. I didn't get a t-shirt either :( About that rain on weds. It lasted 20 minutes but rained really hard. It started when I rode to the train and stopped when I arrived at the station, squish, squish, squish. I left a wet seat on the train. Looked like I peed myself.

What do you do w/ your daughter once you get to work? I can never go downtown on BTWD since I have to head towards DC. If I ever buy a folder I will go downtown, then hop on the train. I want to meet that lady Eva. Give me advanced warning on the next bike meeting, I've got lots to ask her.
On B2WD we take a half a day off and ride downtown and then bike home and resume our regular scheduled activities.

The Mayor's Bicycle Advisory Committee meets the third Tuesday of every month at 6PM at Parks HQ, 2600 Madison Ave, Balimer, hon, across from "Droodle" Park. (Subject to change.)

(Directions provided by our delightful chair.) The public group where notices are posted (or if you want to chime in on biking in the city) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bikehon/

Though it might be best to call or write her outside a meeting: Eva Khoury eva.khoury@baltimorecity.gov, 410-396-7665

BTW My daughter (12) did 18 miles on B2WD (we just eliminated Falls Rd to Roland Ave on the way there.) Not bad for her first big ride of the season. This was our route: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Home-City-Hall

Oh if any one wants a B2WD shirt let me know and I might be able to get some (just let me now the size.)

OK critique my route. I am trying to figure out a decent way to get to BikeJam next week. This is what I have come up with so far.

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Ride-to-Bikejam

-D

OK critique my route. I am trying to figure out a decent way to get to BikeJam next week. This is what I have come up with so far.

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Ride-to-Bikejam

-D

It looks like N. Washington St is one-way and you are mapped in the wrong direction (i.e., against the flow of traffic). You can use Broadway to Baltimore instead.

I can't comment on the westside portion of the route, as I don't travel there usually. I'll defer to Charlie and Barry and Angelo.

Btw, I'm on the waiting list for the Men's CAT 5 race... so, see you there.

There are a few northern sections I would change for weekday rush hour travel or for a less experienced rider but you should be fine but at Park Heights and Falstaff pick up my route http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Home-City-Hall and take Baltimore St or Pratt St into Paterson Park (If you are comfortable on Baltimore stay there otherwise drop down to Pratt as there is very little traffic as you near the park.) Note: Use hybrid mode and look closely at the route between Falls and University as it is a bit convoluted but since you are climbing out of the stream valley the residential streets are nice (and a bit less of a slope) and there is a cut through the Rolland Water Tower Park (looks more like a castle turret) a left and a right turn that is almost a u turn onto University.

It looks like N. Washington St is one-way and you are mapped in the wrong direction (i.e., against the flow of traffic). You can use Broadway to Baltimore instead.

I can't comment on the westside portion of the route, as I don't travel there usually. I'll defer to Charlie and Barry and Angelo.

Btw, I'm on the waiting list for the Men's CAT 5 race... so, see you there.

Cool. I am going to come with the toys of my other hobby. See if I can get some good photos.

-D

Cool. I am going to come with the toys of my other hobby. See if I can get some good photos.

-D


Great! We're going to have some pink jerseys in the CAT 4, 5, and 50+ races for sure. Looks like Dr.Pete will be there, too.

That reminds me... I need to pick up my new jersey!

Great! We're going to have some pink jerseys in the CAT 4, 5, and 50+ races for sure. Looks like Dr.Pete will be there, too.

That reminds me... I need to pick up my new jersey!

Cool. That seems fitting (BBC Racing colors) considering you roll on a TCR. Now all you need to do is upgrade to a T-Mobile version and you will match :D

I am probably going to wear my BF.net jersey. Either that or the Seagull Century one.

But I will probably be more noticable by the Canon DSLR with the big honking white lens on the front.

-D

There are a few northern sections I would change for weekday rush hour travel or for a less experienced rider but you should be fine but at Park Heights and Falstaff pick up my route http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Home-City-Hall and take Baltimore St or Pratt St into Paterson Park (If you are comfortable on Baltimore stay there otherwise drop down to Pratt as there is very little traffic as you near the park.) Note: Use hybrid mode and look closely at the route between Falls and University as it is a bit convoluted but since you are climbing out of the stream valley the residential streets are nice (and a bit less of a slope) and there is a cut through the Rolland Water Tower Park (looks more like a castle turret) a left and a right turn that is almost a u turn onto University.

Yea that looks better. I am not a huge fan of Swann Road around the zoo anyhow

Derath, you are literally riding by my house. If I was going to be in town, I'd try to join you. Instead, I'll be carousing with friends at the Indy 500. (Plus, I'm not sure I could ride downtown and make it back home the same day. I guess I could always have my brother drive me home, he lives near the park!:D )

Derath, you are literally riding by my house. If I was going to be in town, I'd try to join you. Instead, I'll be carousing with friends at the Indy 500. (Plus, I'm not sure I could ride downtown and make it back home the same day. I guess I could always have my brother drive me home, he lives near the park!:D )

Well I ride right past your house at least once a week.

This is my route that I ride to church on sundays

http://www.routeslip.com/routes/11523

We should plan sometime to hook up for a ride on my way home from church one sunday. Now is a good time too. I have had a nasty run of family and work so my fitness has been knocked back down to the beginning again.

And actually I am probably not coming back per se. My parents have offered again to watch the kids next friday. So this time I am going to bike home friday night and then head out from the park back down to pick them up on saturday.


-D

That would work for me. Of course, we've been trying to do this for over a year and the schedules never seem to sync. School's winding down, but we're going to Disney last week of June.

That would work for me. Of course, we've been trying to do this for over a year and the schedules never seem to sync. School's winding down, but we're going to Disney last week of June.


Well to be honest, we haven't tried too hard either :D

But most sundays these days I am biking to and from church. And so on the ride home it is no problem to make a "detour" to do a loop with you.

-D

On B2WD we take a half a day off and ride downtown and then bike home and resume our regular scheduled activities.

The Mayor's Bicycle Advisory Committee meets the third Tuesday of every month at 6PM at Parks HQ, 2600 Madison Ave, Balimer, hon, across from "Droodle" Park. (Subject to change.)

(Directions provided by our delightful chair.) The public group where notices are posted (or if you want to chime in on biking in the city) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bikehon/

Though it might be best to call or write her outside a meeting: Eva Khoury eva.khoury@baltimorecity.gov, 410-396-7665

BTW My daughter (12) did 18 miles on B2WD (we just eliminated Falls Rd to Roland Ave on the way there.) Not bad for her first big ride of the season. This was our route: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Home-City-Hall

Oh if any one wants a B2WD shirt let me know and I might be able to get some (just let me now the size.)

18 miles for a 12yo is very good. I'll take a shirt since I rode, L. Thanks for all the info on Balto Biking. Do you always go to the meetings?

Well to be honest, we haven't tried too hard either :D


-D
That is true, but blame my surgeon. I sure wouldn't have taken six months off without him.;) I'm thinking June 10 might be good. (Hopefully, I'll get enough miles in to not slow you down too much, or you won't get enough miles in to crush me.:rolleyes: )

OK critique my route. I am trying to figure out a decent way to get to BikeJam next week. This is what I have come up with so far.

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Ride-to-Bikejam

-D

Ha! you're riding _literally_ to my house (I live on Baltimore street in front of Patterson park, 2nd door after milton!).

For a scenic route I would recommend getting to other side of Druid Hill park, then to falls rd via clipper mill rd, south on falls all the way, across the maryland ave bridge, cross mt royal, left on biddle, right on st paul, take left fork in road after center street, left on lexington go past city hall and veterans building, right @ T, then left on Fayette at police station, right on president, left on Baltimore.

I've been toying w/ the same idea. I live in Catonsville and figure I can't use it around my hood. Too many hills and my knees are too old. I was going to use it for rail trails. It would be good for Balto city tho'. Is that where you live?


I actually live in Towson, and work in Forest Hill so my daily commute is about 22 miles. I have considered doing half or maybe a little over half by car and riding the rest. As for the hills I will just have to pace myself and keep hammering away.

New MTB rider in the Catonsville area. All of my time has been spent at Patapsco Avalon, and that is in no way depressing.

Ha! you're riding _literally_ to my house (I live on Baltimore street in front of Patterson park, 2nd door after milton!).

Hey, my brother lives in the 2000 block of Baltimore. I'd do Bike Jam as well, but I will be out of town.

New MTB rider in the Catonsville area. All of my time has been spent at Patapsco Avalon, and that is in no way depressing.

That's my hood. Spend lots of time in Pat. less lately as commuting has been wearing down my legs. Hope to get there this wknd tho' welcome

I actually live in Towson, and work in Forest Hill so my daily commute is about 22 miles. I have considered doing half or maybe a little over half by car and riding the rest. As for the hills I will just have to pace myself and keep hammering away.

Do you ride falls? Too keep away from hills ride over 41st bridge. Easiest way over the jones falls.

Ha! you're riding _literally_ to my house (I live on Baltimore street in front of Patterson park, 2nd door after milton!).



I was just there a few weeks ago. I think that area has become one of the best areas in the city. Far enough from the bars to get away from crowds yet close enough to grab an quick beer.

Where the F@#% did y'all go. Ain't nobody riding? I rode a 40 miler over the wknd to a party. Failed to ride home. There was a pretty freaky thunder/lightning storm Sunday evening as I arrived. For those of you that ride N Balto Co: What's the best East/West route. I took Papermilll and Sweet air...not impressed. I was 'buzzed' often. Not a lot of traffic but they didn't give me much room either. Hyde rd was nice including the wineries music festival. Would have stopped if it were not for the party I was en route to. I am close to buying a folder. I want to be able to ride different trains and I can't park a bike at each station so... Anyone here ride one?

Where the F@#% did y'all go. Ain't nobody riding? I rode a 40 miler over the wknd to a party...




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5/23/2007

Greenbelt Training Race

I felt and did much better than the past 2 weeks at Greenbelt, but initially, I felt apathetic about the race. That changed after a thorough warm-up.

I finished high up in the front pack (maybe top 10--don't know for sure, because the referee stopped counting after 3 people crossed the finish line and then a crash ensued, distracting her from counting any more finishers.

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5/24/2007

Easy recovery ride during my commute to work.

Hard ride during my commute home.

Ride to and from Patterson Park in Baltimore City--The park is where Bike Jam 2007 is to be held. I rode to the park to meet 4 other race team members. We rode the race route many times before I had to leave.

The race is Saturday. I'm on the CAT 5 waiting list.

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5/25/2007

This is the combined ride file for the commute to and from work including a false start where I forgot my helmet and returned home for it.

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5/26/2007

Did not race at Bike Jam 2007. re: the officials would not let CAT 5s on the Wait List into the race even though there were only about 30 CAT 5 racers that actually made it to the start line.

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5/27/2007

BBC Club Ride - Mt Airy to Poolesville and back - 72 miles

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5/28/2007

Social ride with Dr. Pete of Capitol Hills Velo and other folks from BikeForums.net.

I had to quit early due to a mechanical problem (self-induced) where I accidentally, while in a hurry fixing a flat, broke the aluminum valve stem off of my wheel. I wound up having to call a cab to take me back to my car. :-(

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5/29/2007

Easy recovery ride during my commute to work.

Commute home w/some hard accelerations to "open" the legs in preparation for the Greenbelt Training Race tomorrow evening.

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5/30/2007

Greenbelt Training Race, Wednesday 5/30/2007.

DNF; mechanical problems--stuck shifter.

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Saturday I road 26 miles out to Glenelg for a 26 mile 10/12 BBC ride, in hopes that the slower pace would be easer on my knee that has been giving me trouble off and on. Well I ended up with 3-4 14mph cyclists but they took the hills gently so that really saved my knee and I had a great time.

Then after the ride I decided to head off to Bike Jam. I took Fredrick Road in to the city and about 8 miles out I noticed a car with the bike in the back so I waved as he passed, waved again as I passed and so on all the way to the park. We got there about the same time and talked a bit (I think I might have another convert to commuter biking.) I got to the park around 1ish, had fun listening to the bands, running into various people I know (including noracer who looks good in his racing jersey.) I played Frisbee with a guy named Nick for about an hour. And I think I spent $20 just on drinks (mostly soda and Gatorade) while I was there (it was hot!)

Sunday I had a mission to get a friend back on a bike so we road 10 miles down to a street festival on the west side of town. Not a bad for a first time in a long time ride.

A good east/west route for north BaltoCo? Seminary, Providence, Lock Raven, Dulaney Valley, Manor, Carroll Manor, Sweat Air. The BBC still does rides on these roads so they are used to seeing us out there. Paper Mill has sort of become a no man’s land for cyclists. There is supposed to be a cut through the golf course the locals use instead of Paper Mill but I have not looked into it.

Then after the ride I decided to head off to Bike Jam.

I got to the park around 1ish, had fun listening to the bands, running into various people I know (including noracer who looks good in his racing jersey.)



It was good seeing and talking with you, Barry. Best wishes for the knee problem.

I haven't gotten much riding in lately at all. If I don't get this turned around soon I am gonna go nuts.

BTW NoRacer, I was almost about to try some Tufo's, but reading about your bad luck lately I am hesitant to try now.

-D

BTW NoRacer, I was almost about to try some Tufo's, but reading about your bad luck lately I am hesitant to try now.

-D

Well, here's some food for thought. I attribute the problem to the valve extender that I need to use with my American Classic wheels, not the tires. I could've continued on if I wouldn't have broken the extender. Also, I ride these same tires day in and day out during my bike commutes to work. I've had less flat problems with them, on the dirty, filthy streets of Baltimore county, then with the Michelin Pro 2s I started with.

Extracted from: http://www.baltobikeclub.org/index.pl/schedulea

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Saturday - June 2

CASUAL – 10 am - 28 miles
START: NCM - North Central Trail at Monkton - Directions: I-695 to Exit 24 I-83 North to Exit 27. Bear Right on Mt. Carmel Rd. Right at traffic light on York Rd. Go one block, then Left on Monkton Rd. Go 3 miles, then park along Mt. Carmel Rd. Meet in the parking lot at Monkton Station. Trail ride to New Freedom for lunch/snack. Restaurant to be chosen by the group.

10/12 MPH - 10 am - 33/27 miles
START: MSM - Marley Station Mall
Ride to the Beach. Come bike along the B & A Trail (and other roads), to a beach on the bay in Sandy Point State Park. Be prepared to go for a swim if the weather turns hot and you really want to cool off on the middle of the ride. See great views of the Bay Bridge. Easy for a 33 mile ride! Enough stops for drinks even if it is a really hot day. Anyone who wants to do the shorter 27 mile version of this ride should meet us at Earleigh Heights Ranger station (along the trail, not ride start EHP) about 20-45 minutes after the ride start.

13/15 MPH - 9 am - 42 miles
START: HFP - Hammonds Ferry Park & Ride
John's Tri-County Loop visits Anne Arundel, Baltimore and Howard counties. Mostly rolling on lightly traveled roads with a couple good hills thrown in to make it interesting. Some of this ride is on the BWI trail.

15/17 MPH - 8:30 am – 103 miles
START: TCP - Thurmont Community Park
Civil War Century, all 103 miles of it. Try it for free, without the crowds (or the SAG support, or the plentiful food, or the cheerful volunteers). Rest stops at about 28 miles, 43 miles (early lunch in Boonsboro), and 70 miles.

18 MPH - 9:30 am - 84 miles
START: Rising Sun-Banquet Hall/Firehouse (1 mile outside town-R on the Main street & go 1 mile-On right)
Break the same old, same old ride syndrome! Georges annual $10 dollar ride. He bought a book for $10 of bike rides & the rides were only 20-30 miles each. He pieced 3 rides together. Ride is not too hilly but always seems to be demanding. Rides through the Heinz Estate is kinda neat!

Sunday - June 3
CASUAL - 10am - 15 (approx.) miles
START: MSC - Manor Shopping Center
Join the Instructional Riders for a scenic tour of northern Baltimore County.

10/12 MPH - 8:30 am - 30+/- miles
START: NCW - North Central Trail at Whitehall.
White Hall to Glen Rock for snacks. This is a trail ride.

13/15 MPH - 9:30 am - 42 miles
START: RVS - Riverside Shopping Center – Directions: I-695 to Exit 33, I-95N; then take Exit 80, turn right at end of ramp - 1/2 miles to shopping ctr. on left, park out from supermarket.Ride to Havre de Grace & Susquehanna St. Park (mix of flat, rolling, 2 long climbs) with lunch/snack options.

15/17 MPH - 9:30 am – 49 miles
START: RUN - Runneymede Elem. School
Tour of Thurmont Lite. A classic Carol and Walt Russell ride to Thurmont. Lunch stop at mile 24.

18 MPH - 9:30 am - 69 miles
START: CMP - Carroll Manor Park
Rocks, Slate, River. Phil Manger's scenic ride through Harford County. I've heard that this is wonderful and never had a chance to do it.

TANDEM - 10 am - 35/45 miles
START: MSC - Manor Shopping Center
Ride from Jacksonville. Come early and have breakfast at the Bagelmeister before the ride. Beautiful rolling ride in horse country to Rocks State Park.

Well, here's some food for thought. I attribute the problem to the valve extender that I need to use with my American Classic wheels, not the tires. I could've continued on if I wouldn't have broken the extender. Also, I ride these same tires day in and day out during my bike commutes to work. I've had less flat problems with them, on the dirty, filthy streets of Baltimore county, then with the Michelin Pro 2s I started with.

That's true. The main interest in those tires for me is their at least theoretical ability to stay on the rim in a flat.

I am not going to buy tubular rims etc for day to day, but out here in CC, it is hilly. Every ride I have several downhills where I am easily getting speeds in the 35-50mph range. Every time I have in the back of my mind what would happen if I had a blowout and my clincher came flying off the rim. Given that the tubular clinchers are supposedly able to stay on even flat it would be a nice extra safety measure.

-D

Every time I have in the back of my mind what would happen if I had a blowout and my clincher came flying off the rim. Given that the tubular clinchers are supposedly able to stay on even flat it would be a nice extra safety measure.

-D

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Re: Tufos, if you do get a flat, is it repairable or do you just toss the tire?

Re: Tufos, if you do get a flat, is it repairable or do you just toss the tire?

Small leaks (< 2mm) can be mitigated with sealant (to a point--you won't be able to run them at high pressures.)

The Tufo C S3 Lite tires I've been running are ok about flats. I think I had better results with the Tufo C S33 tires, but the shape of those tires aren't the best for racing, thus the S3s.

Commuting, I run the tires at 90-100 psi. Racing, I run the front at 150 psi and the rear at 160 psi. If I flat during a race, then the race is over, but that would be the same even if I were running clinchers.

Small leaks (< 2mm) can be mitigated with sealant (to a point--you won't be able to run them at high pressures.)

The Tufo C S3 Lite tires I've been running are ok about flats. I think I had better results with the Tufo C S33 tires, but the shape of those tires aren't the best for racing, thus the S3s.

Commuting, I run the tires at 90-100 psi. Racing, I run the front at 150 psi and the rear at 160 psi. If I flat during a race, then the race is over, but that would be the same even if I were running clinchers.

My understanding (and I am only going off what I have read, since I have never used tubulars of any kind) is that they generally are repairable. But it entails getting the outer cover off to expose the inner tube that can then be patched. This process is generally thought of as annoying so people tend to junk them after a bad puncture.

-D

My understanding (and I am only going off what I have read, since I have never used tubulars of any kind) is that they generally are repairable. But it entails getting the outer cover off to expose the inner tube that can then be patched. This process is generally thought of as annoying so people tend to junk them after a bad puncture.

-D

Tufos aren't repairable, at least not the clincher versions. I thought that I read that the "normal" tubs were built in such a way that they aren't repairable either. You'd need to get "real" sew-ups.

Here's how to fix a true sew-up tubular:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/tubular-repair.html

Yeah back when I was racing like 13 years ago I used sew-ups and made many a PITA repair. I've had good luck with my Serfas and flats, but the thought of the tire coming off the wheel at 30+MPH is scary.