Southern California - The Shopping Thread!

Ok thanks. So basically, if I break a spoke, there's a good chance I'll be eatin' asphalt?! :eek:

Not a good chance. It's not usually catastrophic failure as far as I know, but more about the wheel going out of true and being unrideable faster.

My lbs showed those to me....really nice and light..but they scared me because of the low spoke count...
I got OP/Ultegras also now...cant wait to ride em!!
They were a bit over 1/2lb lighter than my Bontragers...that also includes new cassette weight!! the ultegra cassette weights less than the sram on the bontragers


My friend has been riding the M28 for 6 months now, and he's over 210lbs and rides like an animal. He bought em because he was bending the Bontragers every ride. Acyually I dont thing they have any fewer spokes then the stock wheels.

Ok thanks. So basically, if I break a spoke, there's a good chance I'll be eatin' asphalt?! :eek:

I dont think so....I imagine you would know pretty quick and stop!

Ok thanks. So basically, if I break a spoke, there's a good chance I'll be eatin' asphalt?! :eek:


Not that dramatic. The wheel will most likely become untrue. Now if the wheel breaks, well I hope you not decending a 40+ mph.

I paid the $199 minus the 15% for Team Performance members. I think that's around $170 +tax.

Thanks...maybe now I need to join the performance team. If I don't find a DuraAce wheelset at the swapmeet for $0.58, then I'll probably go and get a pair.

They're just so...I don't know...ho-hum? They look like the wheels that are on my '80's Schwinn. Don't new roadie wheels have to have SPINERGY or AMERICAN CLASSIC or EASTON emblazoned on the side? I thought that was the rule.

I paid the $199 minus the 15% for Team Performance members. I think that's around $170 +tax.


Great deal....

Ok thanks. So basically, if I break a spoke, there's a good chance I'll be eatin' asphalt?! :eek:
There's a good chance your wheel wouldn't collapse immediately, giving you time to stop safely. And 24/27 spokes isn't absurdly low nowadays. I have fewer spokes than that, set in pairs, at extremely high tensions. If one of my spokes ever gave way... :eek:

I picked up my package at the apartment office. I know Zipp carbon bar plugs are a bit silly, but hey, the brakes were on sale. And they should stand out nicely against white bar tape.

Now I just have to find someone to help me install all this stuff. Maybe I should try to attend the Sunday OC area ride and bug voltman or chimivee for help after lunch.

I'm a little late asking, but is it possible to actually install the cassette pieces incorrectly?

I'm a little late asking, but is it possible to actually install the cassette pieces incorrectly?
Not without a hammer or a chisel, no. Well, I guess one could install cogs in the wrong order... but anyone who might do that would have no business doing any of his/her own maintenance.

Anyone installing cogs in the wrong order should be caned in public.:p

I don't mind a little flogging.

Everything seemed to have slid on well enough. But the teeth pattern looks funny now. I suppose if I didn't line up with the splines correctly, it wouldn't have closed so easily. Right?

Everything seemed to have slid on well enough. But the teeth pattern looks funny now. I suppose if I didn't line up with the splines correctly, it wouldn't have closed so easily. Right?
It's possible SRAM and Shimano use different alignments of the teeth from cog to cog because of the way they ramp the gears during a shift. I don't have a SRAM cassette, so I can't confirm this.

There's a small spline that's significantly smaller than the others, so having a cog rotated relative to where it should be isn't a possibility. And the splines are spaced asymmetrically, so having the cog flipped the wrong way isn't a possibility.

I guess one can place spacers in the wrong places, but it should be very obvious where the spacers go (ie between the thin cogs that don't have any other spacer already built in).

I don't mind a little flogging.

Everything seemed to have slid on well enough. But the teeth pattern looks funny now. I suppose if I didn't line up with the splines correctly, it wouldn't have closed so easily. Right?

What's your cassette? It's a near mathmatical impossibility for all the splines on each cog to line up perfectly.

But, I hear what you're saying...my 11-23 cassette looks nice and neat because of the tighter ratio of teeth, but my 11-28 looks catywampus. They're both on right.

My friend has been riding the M28 for 6 months now, and he's over 210lbs and rides like an animal. He bought em because he was bending the Bontragers every ride. Acyually I dont thing they have any fewer spokes then the stock wheels.

Oh...it was the R series...they are much lighter...and less spokes...

I don't mind a little flogging.

Everything seemed to have slid on well enough. But the teeth pattern looks funny now. I suppose if I didn't line up with the splines correctly, it wouldn't have closed so easily. Right?

Shimano? If so, there's one large spline and a number of smaller ones, so you can't get them misaligned. But did you perhaps install one or more of the cogs backwards? Which way did you put the numbers stamped on the cogs? Also, if non-Dura-Ace Shimano, did you remember the thin washer behind the cassette?

Shimano Ultegra, 12-25. They're all on right side up, and the lockring is secure.

Oh...it was the R series...they are much lighter...and less spokes...


Yeah the R series is what I got. Im easy on wheels though. The M's are for the bruisers. The spoke count is 20/24

For some reason, I'm still enamored with trying a standard double. I have a Truvativ Rouleur compact 50/36 right now. I was thinking of trying the Ultegra double and Dura-Ace BB, but $240ish for the heck of it isn't wise. I doubt I could just put the Shimano crank into the Truvativ GXP BB either. But then I saw the standard Rouleur double here (http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=9851&category=). The 170mm version is only $110, but backordered. I wonder if the price will go up if they get them in stock, or if they'll get them in stock at all.

For some reason, I'm still enamored with trying a standard double. I have a Truvativ Rouleur compact 50/36 right now. I was thinking of trying the Ultegra double and Dura-Ace BB, but $240ish for the heck of it isn't wise. I doubt I could just put the Shimano crank into the Truvativ GXP BB either. But then I saw the standard Rouleur double here (http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=9851&category=). The 170mm version is only $110, but backordered. I wonder if the price will go up if they get them in stock, or if they'll get them in stock at all.


shouldn't you be out looking at mtn bikes about now???

shouldn't you be out looking at mtn bikes about now???

It's funny. I don't like MTBs. If I were to get one, it should just be some basic, barebones thing. For some reason, I'm now looking at frames and build kits. And I still don't like MTBs.

It's funny. I don't like MTBs.

... but soon... you will :p

It's funny. I don't like MTBs. If I were to get one, it should just be some basic, barebones thing. For some reason, I'm now looking at frames and build kits. And I still don't like MTBs.
There's a true roadie....:D

There's a true roadie....:D

But can I be a true roadie if I've never used a standard double before?

Next.

http://www.nashbar.com/nashbar_photos/medium/TP-FS.gif

Next.

http://www.nashbar.com/nashbar_photos/medium/TP-FS.gif
What is it a golf bag stand?

What is it a golf bag stand?

Ooh. I'll try that when I get it. It's a portable stand, just enough to get the rear wheel off the ground. And only $15 at Nashbar, thus Performance after price match.

Ooh. I'll try that when I get it. It's a portable stand, just enough to get the rear wheel off the ground. And only $15 at Nashbar, thus Performance after price match.
Interesting, Ive never seen that before.

I'm returning the jacket I got at Performance the other day. I found the Optik at Nashbar for CHEAP!!! :D

I'm returning the jacket I got at Performance the other day. I found the Optik at Nashbar for CHEAP!!! :D

Do they have the Optik at Performance?

No they don't. Backordered until March. :rolleyes:

No they don't. Backordered until March. :rolleyes:

That's handy.

I'm not afraid of the dark any more! Here's my new CygoLite DualCross 300!


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That's handy.

They never have anything when I need/want it. :rolleyes:

No they don't. Backordered until March. :rolleyes:
Just in time for the warm weather.

My most recent purchase would have to be my Trek Madone 5.9 Sl. , Bontrager XXX Lite Cages, only 17 grams, and a set of bontrager race x lite aero carbon tubular wheels ( on order, then to compliment those will be another dura ace cassette and x-lite pro tubular tires for them.) Those are my racing wheels for next year. I just had to get them, and same with the cages, oh and same with the bike. :-) Working in a shop is and is also not good for the bank account. :-/

My most recent purchase would have to be my Trek Madone 5.9 Sl. , Bontrager XXX Lite Cages, only 17 grams, and a set of bontrager race x lite aero carbon tubular wheels ( on order, then to compliment those will be another dura ace cassette and x-lite pro tubular tires for them.) Those are my racing wheels for next year. I just had to get them, and same with the cages, oh and same with the bike. :-) Working in a shop is and is also not good for the bank account. :-/


I couldnt work in a shop, Id be broke. I just bought a 5.2SL a couple months ago, I love it.

My most recent purchase would have to be my Trek Madone 5.9 Sl. , Bontrager XXX Lite Cages, only 17 grams, and a set of bontrager race x lite aero carbon tubular wheels ( on order, then to compliment those will be another dura ace cassette and x-lite pro tubular tires for them.) Those are my racing wheels for next year. I just had to get them, and same with the cages, oh and same with the bike. :-) Working in a shop is and is also not good for the bank account. :-/
Very nice! :D 17 gram bottle cages, huh? How well do they hold the bottles?

I couldnt work in a shop, Id be broke. I just bought a 5.2SL a couple months ago, I love it.

Yeah like yesterday i had a impulse buy on those cages. Saw them online the night before and was telling myself "those are sweet, i'd like to get a pair, but their not worth $XX and especially having to special order them." What happens, they show up in our regular order.... :eek: :mad: So i had to buy them...:p

Edit: they actually hold regualr bottles very nicely, like the trek disco bottles that i use that happen to perfectly match my bike....

Yeah like yesterday i had a impulse buy on those cages. Saw them online the night before and was telling myself "those are sweet, i'd like to get a pair, but their not worth $XX and especially having to special order them." What happens, they show up in our regular order.... :eek: :mad: So i had to buy them...:p
:lol: Hmm... I have Pro Lite carbon cages now. I think they're something like 28-30 grams each. Hmm... that's like 0.05 pounds right there! Every little bit adds up, right? :D

Yeah it does... Its only gonna worse from here though, and screw ebay for having digi scales so cheap also... Grrrrr... Im slowly becoming a weight weenie.

My most recent purchase would have to be my Trek Madone 5.9 Sl. , Bontrager XXX Lite Cages, only 17 grams, and a set of bontrager race x lite aero carbon tubular wheels ( on order, then to compliment those will be another dura ace cassette and x-lite pro tubular tires for them.) Those are my racing wheels for next year. I just had to get them, and same with the cages, oh and same with the bike. :-) Working in a shop is and is also not good for the bank account. :-/

Oh yeah? Well my Flash Stand folds up to a convenient size!

Can you score me some cages?

I bought skates today. :p They're cycling related in that...once I fall and break something while wearing them...I won't be cycling much.

Reverse purchase. I sold my Trek this evening. :D

Reverse purchase. I sold my Trek this evening. :D
Whoooohooo, that means you got cash in your pocket.:D

Paul's got cash in his pocket. :mad:

Paul's got cash in his pocket. :mad:

Tell him cash + returning his Fuji gets him a carbon Fuji!

Tell him cash + returning his Fuji gets him a carbon Fuji!
voltman is a wise man

Oh yeah? Well my Flash Stand folds up to a convenient size!


Yeah, well... dang i dont have anything for that... Except that my bike is a carbon based being as it at one with the earth and doesnt mind laying down... So booya! :p

the paint and I on the other hand not so fond of it laying down....:mad:

Yeah, well... dang i dont have anything for that... Except that my bike is a carbon based being as it at one with the earth and doesnt mind laying down... So booya! :p

the paint and I on the other hand not so fond of it laying down....:mad:

Ha! My stand would be perfect for that!