Mountain Biking - replacing shifter cable

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turbojoe
09-11-06, 04:01 PM
i recently purchased a used giant rincon and need to replace the rear shifter cable and am not sure how to go about doing so. are they model specific or is it generic cable? im an auto tech by trade so i should be able to replace it but just not sure what to buy. also wondering if there were any brand suggestions. i only do light riding so it doesnt have to be extreme. thanks, joe
im not sure but i've replaced cables a few times i just went to a sporting goods store and got a little package that said "shifter cable" for $6 in the bike section and it worked. you probably have to cut it to the right length, for that you should have some serious cutters, bike cable cutters are the best, i ruined some good wire cutters and tin snips thinking those would work, i got the job done but the tools were toast, shell out for the actual bike cable cutters. i am going to immediately if another cable job pops up. once it's cleanly cut the rest is easy.
here's the tool
http://www.parktool.com/products/detail.asp?cat=14&item=CN-10
here's a how to on cutting the cable
http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=77
here's a cable replacement how to
http://www.utahmountainbiking.com/fix/cablenew.htm
go to your LBS and ask for shifting cable. my lbs charges like 7bucks for XTR. dont mistake shifting cable with braking cable because one is thinner and one is thicker.
go to your LBS and ask for shifting cable. my lbs charges like 7bucks for XTR. dont mistake shifting cable with braking cable because one is thinner and one is thicker.
More important than that is the ends are different. ;)
Just a little side note, for the housing I always use brake housing. It is a little bigger inside and lets the cable move with less resistance. I use brake housing on all of my bikes for the shifters.
iamthetas
09-11-06, 06:55 PM
get a GOOD set of cable cutters. put a smidge of lube in the housing, after removing the old cable, to help the new cable slide easier. after tightening up the cable on the cable nut at the end pull straight up on the cable somewhere where you can get a good pull( at least an inch up) , then go back and retighten the cable at the nut. this will eliminate any cable stretch down the road. its called prestretch and saves any need to adjust barrel adjusters and such
You really stretch it to a degree that you need not adjust the barrels later?
turbojoe
09-12-06, 03:59 AM
cool thanks guys, after reading some of the post and links its actually the housing that is a problem. up near the handle bars just before the endcap at the front of the top tube the housing is rotted out and all the wires are sticking out. it appears as though the cable is intact (not frayed) and moving but maybe with out the housing theres nothing to pull against. or i could just be ********. anyways should i redo the whole thing anyway? does any of this make sense? thanks for your patience.
jeremyp111
09-12-06, 04:16 AM
You are going to have to pull it apart anyway so I'd just replace both the cable and housing at the same time. The parts are very inexpensive and you don't want to have to redo it again later.
a2psyklnut
09-12-06, 08:18 AM
Check out www.parktool.com/repair/ and find their repair manual. Very informative and clear on exactly what to do.
iamthetas
09-13-06, 05:39 PM
You really stretch it to a degree that you need not adjust the barrels later?
yup, if you do the pre stretch, forget about adjusting it later. its also easier,IMO, to get the thing set right, especially SRAM. Shimano isnt that hard to get adjusted right because of the 2:1 ratio but SRAM 1:1 is a lot harder for me to get exactly right.
Ive done it on several bikes for me and friends in the last couple years and have had 0 need to adjust
Curtis_Elwood
09-13-06, 05:47 PM
yup, if you do the pre stretch, forget about adjusting it later. its also easier,IMO, to get the thing set right, especially SRAM. Shimano isnt that hard to get adjusted right because of the 2:1 ratio but SRAM 1:1 is a lot harder for me to get exactly right.
Ive done it on several bikes for me and friends in the last couple years and have had 0 need to adjust
My LBS mechanic prestretched my shift cables a few months ago when he set up my bike. I was surprised to see him doing this, but it really did work. Haven't had to touch the barrels.
iamthetas
09-13-06, 06:13 PM
thanks for getting my back on this one Curtis Elwood. it really works but folks think Im full of bull for suggesting it.
Pre-stretch.
Good to know, ta :)
jzztchr
10-13-06, 11:25 AM
Re: pre-stretching
As a guitarist, it is always advised to pre-stretch newly installed strings. Otherwise, you'll spend 20 min. a night tuning/retuning for the first week or so. On a related vein, when I'm not playing an instrument for a spell, I loosen the tension a couple of turns--when I pick it up again I'll tighten it till its in tune. I would think releasing the quick release on bike's brake levers would also enhance cable life. (Gotta remember to check it before heading out for a ride though.)
At least w/guitar strings, you can feel them stretch--they get tighter and tighter as you keep having to tighten them to keep them in tune...Then one day, you're doing a step and a half bend, and snap!. (Funny thing, my old Shimano 600's stop me pretty well even if I've forgotten to tighten the quick release.)
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