Southern California - The Second Slice of Apple Pie Ride

chimivee: You could drive to the top of Palomar and get one of the greatest 'nights under the stars' of your life. Might be a little chilly, but a hell of a lot better than sleeping in busy casino parking lot.

dog hair: If you were only good at your job, you wouldn't be having these problems. ;)

Here's the forecast:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/cgi-bin/weather/hw3.cgi?forecast=zandh&place=valley+center&state=ca&zipcode=92082&country=us&maxdays=7&daysonly=2&config=template1

Looks like Civil Twilight is at 5:58 am, so we can leave 3 minutes earlier. ;)

Thanks Tracy and Jeff. Harrah's would work and is only about 3.5 mi away.


What's valley view?

Harrah's has a 3 story parking structure, if you park on top, it should be alot quieter. Valley View is the casino right behind the middle school we're meeting at.

I'll be offline starting later today. If any last minute stuff comes up, someone with my cell phone number please let me know.

dog hair: If you were only good at your job, you wouldn't be having these problems. ;)


believe me, i've been telling myself that a lot lately. it's just a bad stretch.

I was kidding. If I was half as good at anything as you are at painting helmets, I'd probably be...well...not doing this.

I was kidding. If I was half as good at anything as you are at painting helmets, I'd probably be...well...not doing this.

nah, i figured you were kidding but i wasn't :)

and i'm convinced that anyone can do what i do.

Nope. If you handed me a helmet and told me to paint it with flames, numbers, custom graphics, etc...I'd somehow manage to catch a fish.

I certainly can't do what you do, dog hair. Not without a huge amount of training, and I'm not even convinced I could do it then. If for no other reason, my hands shake uncontrollably. Never mind my total lack of artistry.

Have a great turkey day, everyone. Load up on fuel, and see y'all on bright Saturday.

Nope. If you handed me a helmet and told me to paint it with flames, numbers, custom graphics, etc...I'd somehow manage to catch a fish.

if you have a good cast, you'll have a good painting stroke.



I certainly can't do what you do, dog hair. Not without a huge amount of training, and I'm not even convinced I could do it then. If for no other reason, my hands shake uncontrollably. Never mind my total lack of artistry.

only time you have to worry about steady hands is when you're doing fine detail.


i seriously bet i could teach anyone to do this!

Hi all, just want to ask what type of clothing you suggest for this ride.

1) Will arm warmers + leg warmers be fine?
2) Need for a cycling jacket?
3) Headband/mask?
4) Full fingered gloves?

Thanks!

Hey guys....

if there is anything you need me to bring... please let me know by tomorrow; otherwise, I'll assume you're bringing everything you need ;)

I'll see ya at 5:30 saturday

t~

you'll need all that stuff for the beginning decent from Valley View down to the base of the Mt. You will prolly be stripping off layers on the climb.

I plan on wearing a short sleeve, with arm/leg warmers, full finger warm gloves and windbreaker from the start. I will prolly ditch the jacket somewhere on the bottom of the climb. By the time we get to the South Grade fork, the sun will be up and keeping us warm.

I'm going with arm and leg warmers, windbreaker, full fingered gloves, and a headband in reserve. And carrying knee warmers and fingerless gloves for if it gets warmer. Keep in mind that with SAG support, there's no reason not to bring a little extra. Better to have it and not want it than to want it and not have it. Going solo would be a different story... I don't regret shivering uncontrollably for the first few minutes when I did the Pie ride solo. Bringing along extra stuff just for the sake of comfort on the initial descent just wasn't worth it since I would have had to drag the stuff around all day long.

You could drive to the top of Palomar and get one of the greatest 'nights under the stars' of your life. Might be a little chilly, but a hell of a lot better than sleeping in busy casino parking lot.
Thanks for the idea... I think I'd rather be nearby the start... Once I'm hunkered down in the back of my van, there's not much of a view anyway.


Harrah's has a 3 story parking structure, if you park on top, it should be alot quieter. Valley View is the casino right behind the middle school we're meeting at.
Yeah, that would probably work... although, 3rd level might be kind of shakey up there.

I'll probably just play it by ear... check out Harrah's and see. Anything will be better than waking up at 3am to drive down from my house.

Listen to Jason when it comes to bringing supplies.

Also, I have 2 2.5 gallon water jugs at my place left over from the camping trip. so I'll bring those and fig newtons, chocolate covered peanut butter filled pretzels, and a few other goodies for everyone to snack on.

I expect to do much better this time than I did back in January. :)

this should be interesting for me, none the less I'm excited about this ride. I like a good challege!!!

I'm just going to bring water and some cliff bars, maybe some other treats, not sure yet.

I expect to do much better this time than I did back in January. :)
Funny... I expect to do much worse, than you did back in January. :p

I suspect that everyone will surprise themselves while doing this ride.....

Everyone is going to have tons of fun and just remember that there are tons of options for this ride and they can be combined to create a unique ride experience.

Paul, are you still planning on doing this ride?

...and fig newtons, chocolate covered peanut butter filled pretzels,...


You are a gentleman, kind sir. We call CCPBfilled pretzels 'Scooby Snacks' in this neck o' the woods.

Paul, are you still planning on doing this ride?

Paul who? Me? Yes.


you're probably not referring to me.

Paul who? Me? Yes.


you're probably not referring to me.

Oops.....sorry about that, I was referring to worker4youth. :)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/jojisan/PieRidesign.jpg

Bump...

You kids be safe tomorrow. I'm soooo jealous. Please take lots of pics (as if I need to ask) and post them tomorrow evening (if you still have enough energy left over). And, eh-hem, any shots of a certain set of legs are most appreciated...in fact, another montage, perhaps? :D :p :D

Bump...

You kids be safe tomorrow. I'm soooo jealous. Please take lots of pics (as if I need to ask) and post them tomorrow evening (if you still have enough energy left over). And, eh-hem, any shots of a certain set of legs are most appreciated...in fact, another montage, perhaps? :D :p :D

I am sure that Tracy will have a camera so that we can fulPhil that request... :D

I am sure that Tracy will have a camera so that we can fulPhil that request... :D
I'm sure Tracy will and I'll have to repay her somehow in the future. Now, all I have to do is figure out how to get Phil to fulfeel me, and I'll be a happy camper. :D

I am sure that Tracy will have a camera so that we can fulPhil that request... :D

I'll do my best... but maybe I should concentrate on not bumping anyone off the road :rolleyes:

From the 5 south, is it better to take 76/Mission Ave or the 78?

James...are you planning on spending the night? I might do the same if I don't hear from worker4youth by the time I get home from work this evening. If I do I'll park in a shopping center somewhere there's food and bathroom available like a large gas station, for instance. We were originally planning on carpooling and leaving early in the morning.

Southbound on the 15 I can take 76 or take the next exit (gopher canyon rd??)>>champagne rd>>old castle rd>>lilac rd>>valley center>>north wohlford rd.
Anyone taken this route before?

Southbound on the 15 I can take 76 or take the next exit (gopher canyon rd??)>>champagne rd>>old castle rd>>lilac rd>>valley center>>north wohlford rd.
Anyone taken this route before?


I'd take the second option (its the way I'm going).... take the gopher canyon/old castle exit, go left back under the freeway, right at the light and then the first left (golf course at that corner).... you'll stay on this road until it dead ends into valley center road at which point you'll turn left and follow that to the middle school/wohlford road....

James...are you planning on spending the night? I might do the same if I don't hear from worker4youth by the time I get home from work this evening. If I do I'll park in a shopping center somewhere there's food and bathroom available like a large gas station, for instance. We were originally planning on carpooling and leaving early in the morning.

Southbound on the 15 I can take 76 or take the next exit (gopher canyon rd??)>>champagne rd>>old castle rd>>lilac rd>>valley center>>north wohlford rd.
Anyone taken this route before?


Fixer,

there is virtually nothing in valley center like a large gas station etc.... your best bet is one of the casinos... if you continue on valley center road past the middle school and down the hill, you'll hit Harrah's... (or just behind the middle school is valley view casino - you can't miss it) the other option is to come into valley center through escondido via valley parkway (turns into valley center road)... there are quite a few places along that road to stop for food etc. and its only another 10 minutes from there to the middle school...

I'd take the second option (its the way I'm going).... take the gopher canyon/old castle exit, go left back under the freeway, right at the light and then the first left (golf course at that corner).... you'll stay on this road until it dead ends into valley center road at which point you'll turn left and follow that to the middle school/wohlford road....

Perfect...thanks!

Fixer,

there is virtually nothing in valley center like a large gas station etc.... your best bet is one of the casinos... if you continue on valley center road past the middle school and down the hill, you'll hit Harrah's... (or just behind the middle school is valley view casino - you can't miss it) the other option is to come into valley center through escondido via valley parkway (turns into valley center road)... there are quite a few places along that road to stop for food etc. and its only another 10 minutes from there to the middle school...

...in other word if I turn right at valley center instead of left, I should see some activity in that direction.....

...in other word if I turn right at valley center instead of left, I should see some activity in that direction.....

yes, that would work too ... you'll go over a hill and down a fairly long grade... once you pass the other end of lake wohlford road you'll start seeing civilization...

If you aren't familiar with the roads, I would suggest 15 south, exit Valley Parkway (S6), go east about 10 miles or so and turn right on Lake Wohlford Road.

The bad part is that this route goes through Escondido and a bunch of urban traffic with stop lights.

You won't see the Middle School, but look are ALL the signs that point to Valley View Casino, the casino is up on the hill, the middle school is at the bottom of the hill, on the corner with Valley Center Road.

If you aren't familiar with the roads, I would suggest 15 south, exit Valley Parkway (S6), go east about 10 miles or so and turn right on Lake Wohlford Road.

The bad part is that this route goes through Escondido and a bunch of urban traffic with stop lights.


that is true, but once he gets over onto old castle, its kinda hard to get lost.... just go forward til ya hit the light ;)

You won't see the Middle School, but look are ALL the signs that point to Valley View Casino, the casino is up on the hill, the middle school is at the bottom of the hill, on the corner with Valley Center Road.

you can see the middle school from valley center road... are you talking about if you come down from the escondido side of lake wohlford???

James...are you planning on spending the night?
Actually, no... Last minute change of plans, so I'm just gonna go in the morning. I blame it on post turkey lethargy. :o

that is true, but once he gets over onto old castle, its kinda hard to get lost.... just go forward til ya hit the light ;)
I've been lost out there many times. In daylight. With a ,map.

Maybe it's me?

If you aren't familiar with the roads, I would suggest 15 south, exit Valley Parkway (S6), go east about 10 miles or so and turn right on Lake Wohlford Road.

The bad part is that this route goes through Escondido and a bunch of urban traffic with stop lights.

Thanks....I took that route when we did the first pie ride. I was looking to exit before S6 this time. :)

I've been lost out there many times. In daylight. With a ,map.

Maybe it's me?

it could also be that I'm familiar w/the area... our old house is right across valley center road from valley view casino... you've just got to get onto the right road and stay there ;)

I'll be hitting 15/old castle about 5 so if anyone is unsure, just wait for me and you can follow me from there...

t~

So any directional advice, coming from the 5 fwy?

On second thought, I'll leave my home around 3 am....

So any directional advice, coming from the 5 fwy?


I'm thinking your best bet is to cut over to 15 at 91'ish... otherwise, you'll have to use 76 or 78, neither is as direct... if you come down 15, you can use the directions already posted

I'm thinking your best bet is to cut over to 15 at 91'ish... otherwise, you'll have to use 76 or 78, neither is as direct... if you come down 15, you can use the directions already posted
Thanks, Tracy. I was just mapping it from my house and 91->15 is nearly identical in distance/time to using 5. I guess I'll give that a shot. Thanks!

I'm having a little picnic at Lake Henshaw...:D